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j3lazingj3order
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barley as a substrate

#9020997 - 10/02/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I used organic barley inoculated with syringe and have had decent but slow success with colonization times. Does anyone have experience with barley? and are there any pros or cons to using barley

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fungiamongi2
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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9021028 - 10/02/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

let me know how this works for you. Ive been thinking about using spent grain from brewing beer to use as spawn, but didnt know if that would take out too much of the sugars.

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9021060 - 10/02/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

will do i have it in casing and jars colonizing now i will post pics of my yeild on or around the third week of oct just before dia de muerto :smile:

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9021643 - 10/03/08 12:24 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

im interested to see how it turns out as i have never heard of anybody trying something like this before...let us no! :smirk:

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BlimeyGrimey
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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9022038 - 10/03/08 02:25 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Barley works fine. In fact barley is what i use for all my spawn.

Soaking the barley in 50% diluted coffee helps speed up colonization.

I've had whole pint jars of barley (3/4 full) colonize in under a week when inoculated with a liquid culture.

Straight barley cased with a 50/50 mix makes quality mushrooms in my opinion.

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9023352 - 10/03/08 11:59 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

how do i do this coffee thing? just make a pot of coffee half strong and soak the barley in the coffee for how long? do i then sterilze in my cooker? Im always interested in speeding up colonization times so any advice would help

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9024254 - 10/03/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Make half a pot of coffee. Then fill it the rest of the way up with water. You now have 50% coffee.

Soak the barley in the coffee for 12-24 hrs then strain and PC like normal.

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9024494 - 10/03/08 04:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

thanks alot i will try it this weekend with a new batch of GT just in.

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9024673 - 10/03/08 04:58 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

is this barley malted?

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BlimeyGrimey
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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9025073 - 10/03/08 06:10 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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j3lazingj3order said:
I used organic barley inoculated with syringe and have had decent but slow success with colonization times.

Have you been shaking the grains up? After a jar is about 25% colonized I give it a good shake and in less than a week its usually fully colonized.

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9616911 - 01/15/09 07:20 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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BlimeyGrimey said:
Make half a pot of coffee. Then fill it the rest of the way up with water. You now have 50% coffee.

Soak the barley in the coffee for 12-24 hrs then strain and PC like normal.

Do I need to rinse, boil, soak and then PC or just soak and strain then PC?

Edited by ganjababy (01/15/09 07:21 PM)

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9618875 - 01/16/09 01:05 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Soak then boil for 5 mins then strain until it is no longer steaming then PC.

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9619051 - 01/16/09 01:52 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

so, is the barley malted?

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9622606 - 01/16/09 06:14 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I use plain barley and pearled barley. Though the regular kind works a lot better than the pearled kind.

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Re: barley as a substrate

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#9622781 - 01/16/09 06:55 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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fungiamongi2 said:
so, is the barley malted?

i used some of my spent homebrew barley malt in a few of the growbags i did this week. i just substituted for some of the WBS. i dont think its a good idea though, most of the nutes have been leached out after the mash. BUT. big but.
if you are brewing all-grain, after you sparge the wort out, you will be left with the spent barley, and a few gallons of half strength wort/water. this is the same as what we make LC from. use this wort/water to hydrate your substrate. yum.

ill let ya'll know about the barley bags as the colonize, im inoculating tomorrow.

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