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Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls
    #9020610 - 10/02/08 09:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

And the polls begin to roll in. I plan to do with this thread the same as I did with my last thread, I'm going to go over all of the measures we have over who won this debate, whether or not they work for the candidate I support.

I think you're going to see more break for Biden on this debate.

I think the only real "selling point" of this debate was in Biden's favor when Palin said that she thought the VP should have more power.

    CBS NEWS/KNOWLEDGE NETWORKS POLL
    (Uncommitted Voters who watched the debate)

    46% of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Joe Biden was the winner. 21% thought Sarah Palin won, 33% thought it was a draw… 98% after the debate saw [Biden] as knowledgeable (79% before the debate).



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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020616 - 10/02/08 09:16 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

CNN poll:

    Who did the best job in the debate?

    Biden 51
    Palin 36

MoE 4%

Link for this in just a sec too. Seeing it on TV.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020625 - 10/02/08 09:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

real people dont vote in CBS polls, they also arent undecided as to whom they'd choose


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020627 - 10/02/08 09:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Internals on the cnn poll:

    Who did the best job in the debate?

    Biden 51
    Palin 36


    Did Biden do better or worse than you expected?

    Better 64
    Worse 14
    Same 20


    Did Palin do better or worse than you expected?

    Better 84
    Worse 7
    Same 8


    Is Palin qualified to serve as president?

    Yes
    Before debate: 42
    After debate: 46

    No
    Before debate: 54
    After debate: 53


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020640 - 10/02/08 09:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

These polls were not online polls, they were ACTUAL polls that were phoned in, like normal polls. The CBS poll was a focus group poll, the CNN poll was a call to houses in the first 30 minutes after the debate.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020644 - 10/02/08 09:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I was going to ask if they were online polls or not. The online polls are such bullshit.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/02/who-won-the-vice-presidential-debate/?mod=googlenews_wsj

Like this poll here.. You can vote an unlimited amount of times.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020650 - 10/02/08 09:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i was watchin the debates at my friends house and we had this drinkin game goin on were we drink everytime palin doesnt clearly answer the question
im drunk as fuk now lol
and then my e-tarded friend walks in and hes like that bitch is so smart, she just pops out answers like nothin and the other guy stutters
i jus smiled and nodded


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020655 - 10/02/08 09:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020722 - 10/02/08 09:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

MediaCurves focus group poll:









All of the data found here:
http://mediacurves.com/


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020739 - 10/02/08 09:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Please provide links. thanks.


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020744 - 10/02/08 09:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Got links to the CBS poll and the media curves poll.

CNN poll isn't up yet, but it will be. That was on TV.


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020761 - 10/02/08 09:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Not a credible source yet, but so you don't think I'm just pulling the CNN one out of my ass:

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/150403.asp?from=blog_last3


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020765 - 10/02/08 09:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: Ferris]
    #9020778 - 10/02/08 09:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

thanks Ferris!


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9020784 - 10/02/08 09:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe we can be sourced by the major news outlets if the answers are skewed enough


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020787 - 10/02/08 09:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

supernovasky said:
Not a credible source yet, but so you don't think I'm just pulling the CNN one out of my ass:

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/150403.asp?from=blog_last3




I believe you. My brother was watching the debate on a CNN stream and they were giving it to Biden about a minute or two after the debate ended.


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: Ferris]
    #9020821 - 10/02/08 09:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Maybe we can be sourced by the major news outlets if the answers are skewed enough




:rofl: I'm sure it will be!


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #9020858 - 10/02/08 09:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

From another site for the CNN poll:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/10/02/Poll_Biden_wins_VP_debate_with_Palin/UPI-28841223004724/


So I figure that Obama may even get a bump after tonight.


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020879 - 10/02/08 09:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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supernovasky said:
So I figure that Obama may even get a bump after tonight.




:rofl2:

we shall see...


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9020902 - 10/02/08 09:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

meh palin did ok

she had good rebuttles at a few points..i dont agree with her worldview, but she sounded ok

her climate change answer was retard babble and much like her couric answers

she lost me with the dumbfuck "folksy" talking as well. oh and the jesus comment about his wife having a prize in heaven. that was disgusting


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #9020913 - 10/02/08 09:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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that was disgusting




what about all his 'god bless us all' shit


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #9020927 - 10/02/08 09:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Seriously, I'm glad you brought that up, when he said that her wife had a prize in heaven...

She had no right to bring his dead wife in there like that.


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: supernovasky]
    #9020936 - 10/02/08 09:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

From Daily Kos, I really liked this post:

Quote:

I LOVE those CNN and CBS insta-polls. Rather than sit and spin bullshit all night, the pundits actually have to adjust to what the public actually thought.

In this case, it's great for us since the public thought both Obama and Biden won overwhelmingly. But regardless, it slams the door shut on elite pundits pretending to speak for the American people. Now, the American people can speak for themselves, and the pundits have to react accordingly.

Much, much better.





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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9021002 - 10/02/08 10:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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CBS poll:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/02/politics/horserace/entry4497035.shtml


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"CBS News and Knowledge Networks have conducted a nationally representative poll of 473 uncommitted voters to get their immediate reaction to tonight's vice presidential debate. "


please.....


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Re: Joe Biden wins the debate in all 3 snap polls [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #9021013 - 10/02/08 10:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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meh palin did ok

she had good rebuttles at a few points..i dont agree with her worldview, but she sounded ok






You not calling her a cunt as usual and admitting that she did "OK"  makes my day! :grin:


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9021022 - 10/02/08 10:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Lonestar, do you not understand how polling works? 473 has a margin of error of about 4%, but of course, if you want to just cast out the polls, go ahead. Polls aren't always right (but when 3 say you lose, it's pretty much a loss). They are in general, fairly good at gauging public opinion, though.

Remember, the polls on the last debate between Obama and McCain preceded a rise in his poll numbers.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9021043 - 10/02/08 10:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The "Snap poll" was first used in Kerry debates, by the way. They were pretty accurate there too.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9021052 - 10/02/08 10:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Remember, the polls on the last debate between Obama and McCain preceded a rise in his poll numbers.




and I'm sure the stock market crashing didn't help.....


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: supernovasky]
    #9021057 - 10/02/08 10:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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The "Snap poll" was first used in Kerry debates, by the way. They were pretty accurate there too.





:rofl2:


no comment:grin:


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9021117 - 10/02/08 10:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

No comment?

Kerry lost in a few of the snap polls and therefore his poll numbers tanked.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9021119 - 10/02/08 10:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

supernovasky said:


Remember, the polls on the last debate between Obama and McCain preceded a rise in his poll numbers.




and I'm sure the stock market crashing didn't help.....




The stock market didnt "crash".

And I'm sure the bailout package won't help either.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #9021138 - 10/02/08 10:36 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

nope....


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9021539 - 10/02/08 11:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

joe biden won this debate by any objective standards.. but sarah palin will still be seen as the winner by many ppl nonetheless.. for the simple reason that the expectations on her were so low (in fact there were none)...


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: Annapurna1]
    #9021559 - 10/03/08 12:00 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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joe biden won this debate by any objective standards.. but sarah palin will still be seen as the winner by many ppl nonetheless.. for the simple reason that the expectations on her were so low (in fact there were none)...






Quote:

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there has been much speculation that the repugs have deliberately sandbagged the bitch for the biden debate.. and the she deliberately botched the gibson and couric interviews to that end...




So do you still believe that the Republicans sandbagged Palin for the Biden debate?


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9021581 - 10/03/08 12:06 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I do.

When you set the bar so low there is only one other way to go, back up.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #9021590 - 10/03/08 12:08 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

so you're on the same boat with Anna on this one.

interesting....


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9021591 - 10/03/08 12:09 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I said it like 2 weeks ago.


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #9021636 - 10/03/08 12:24 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

after watching her tonite..theres NFW that you can tell me that she wasnt playing dumb with katie couric and charlie gibson.. and she got plenty of help from david brooks &co too...


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Re: CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 [Re: Annapurna1]
    #9021655 - 10/03/08 12:28 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't say she was playing dumb in those interviews. I would be more apt to say she did a good job at remembering her talking points tonight and was well rehearsed. Which is why she didn't answer some of the questions and instead went on to spew some bullshit about talking to the American people, she didn't rehearse those questions.

Everyone knows how America wants someone you can have a beer with to run the country instead of someone who actually may have an idea about whats going on. Fucking idiots in this country, I swear. :foreheadslap:


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