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Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [UK]
    #9015870 - 10/01/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition
October 2, 2008 - guardian.co.uk

A report on cannabis prepared for next year's UN drug policy review will suggest that a "regulated market" would cause less harm than the current international prohibition. The report, which is likely to reopen the debate about cannabis laws, suggests that controls such as taxation, minimum age requirements and labelling could be explored.

The Global Cannabis Commission report, which will be launched today at a conference in the House of Lords, has reached conclusions which its authors suggest "challenge the received wisdom concerning cannabis". It was carried out for the Beckley foundation, a UN-accredited NGO, for the 2009 UN strategic drug policy review.

There are, according to the report, now more than 160 million users of the drug worldwide. "Although cannabis can have a negative impact on health, including mental health, in terms of relative harms it is considerably less harmful than alcohol or tobacco," according to the report. "Historically, there have only been two deaths worldwide attributed to cannabis, whereas alcohol and tobacco together are responsible for an estimated 150,000 deaths per annum in the UK alone."

The report, compiled by a group of scientists, academics and drug policy experts, suggests that much of the harm associated with cannabis use is "the result of prohibition itself, particularly the social harms arising from arrest and imprisonment." Policies that control cannabis, whether draconian or liberal, appear to have little impact on the prevalence of consumption, it concluded.

"In an alternative system of regulated availability, market controls such as taxation, minimum age requirements, labelling and potency limits are available to minimise the harms associated with cannabis use," said the report.

It claimed that only through a regulated market could young people be protected from the increasingly potent forms of cannabis, such as skunk. It is intended that the report will form a blueprint for nations seeking to develop a "more rational and effective approach to the control of cannabis".

The authors suggest there is evidence that "the current system of cannabis regulation is not working, and ... there needs to be a serious rethink if we are to minimise the harms caused by cannabis use."

Last night, the report was welcomed by drug law reform organisations. "The Beckley foundation are to be congratulated for the clarity of their call for cannabis supply to be brought within government control," said Danny Kushlick of Transform. "We look forward to the same analysis being applied to heroin and cocaine."

The report is being launched at a two-day conference, which will be attended by leading figures in the drugs policy world.

The conclusions are unlikely to be embraced by the government or the Conservative party, both of which are opposed to relaxing restrictions on cannabis use.

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: veggie]
    #9015971 - 10/01/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Very interesting :thumbup:

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: veggie]
    #9016146 - 10/01/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: 0kehSt0nr]
    #9016184 - 10/01/08 10:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

potency limits = :thumbdown:

and you  know that'd be implemented for sure


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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #9016245 - 10/01/08 11:12 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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potency limits = :thumbdown:

and you  know that'd be implemented for sure




You think it will be illegal to grow your self?  You can make your own beer/liqour.


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    #9016263 - 10/01/08 11:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: Ophanim]
    #9016286 - 10/01/08 11:20 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

At least its a step in the right direction, I guess since its low potency we will just have to smoke more :rasta:

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9016318 - 10/01/08 11:27 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I'd like to know what level of potency they had in mind

If its a drastic limit in potency then your still gonna have the black market.. fuck, can't they just make both and put a disclaimer on the packages? jeez..

Oh well, this most likely won't pass anyway.


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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: Ophanim]
    #9016325 - 10/01/08 11:28 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, potency limits makes no sense, but I guess I'll take any first step I can get.




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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9016465 - 10/01/08 11:57 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

every step, not matter how minute, is progress

i shall live to see the day weed is legalized


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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
    #9016833 - 10/02/08 01:39 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Holy crap, did they just suddenly grow a brain over in england?  Didn't think I'd ever hear rationality about drug laws.  Glad I'll have the option of moving there in the future.

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: Ophanim]
    #9017025 - 10/02/08 04:40 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, potency limits makes no sense, but I guess I'll take any first step I can get.



Why does it make no sense? There's pretty much a potency limit for alcohol at 40% and I hardly ever drink spirits. I'm quite happy with my 8x less potent beer.

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: Ophanim]
    #9017097 - 10/02/08 05:39 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Potency regulation would be one of the key vote winning arguments... Tabloids are always ranting on about how strong 'super skunk' is ravaging our land... If was controlled by the government then it would be possible to introduce limits to the potency and it would be like the weed 'back in the day' (like they always say).


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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: roquet]
    #9017101 - 10/02/08 05:41 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Am I dreaming atm..

I'd never see the day the UN got involved :grin: :grin:

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: Completely Lost]
    #9017268 - 10/02/08 07:40 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Am I dreaming atm..

I'd never see the day the UN got involved :grin: :grin:




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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: Deekay]
    #9017271 - 10/02/08 07:44 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

potency limits are impossible to test accurately and on a markey wide scale, its not like the proof of liquor, so unless they set it at something insane like 3% or something, i dont think that would work. also the fact that skunk does not make you go insane should come into play.


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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #9017553 - 10/02/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

The potency limit is pretty much irrelevant. If it's too low you can just grow your own. Whether or not they make that illegal doesn't matter much. They can't do anything if they just catch you smoking it since it will be legal, and they're not going to go around testing everyone's weed for potency. Unless they randomly decide to search your property for marijuana plants you'll be fine.

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: JohnnyTruant]
    #9017599 - 10/02/08 09:56 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, just wow.

Really can't say i expected this, what with there seeming to be a new anti-marijuana article in the newspapers almost everyday.

I wouldn't worry too much about potency limit, i'm sure it wont be anything too ridiculous.

But congratulations to the people who've been battling away, this certainly is a step in the right direction for sensible effective drug laws.


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Look at it this way: if you want to make a baby cry, first you give it a lollipop. Then you take it away. If you never give it a lollipop to begin with, it would have nothin' to cry about. That's like God, who gives us life and love and help just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our tears, Stan, that give God his great power.

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: IdeLOLogies]
    #9017794 - 10/02/08 10:57 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think anyone should get their hopes up over this, its only a report, the government would never implement the suggestions in a million years, especially the Conservatives who are almost guarenteed to be in power next, they need to show that they are 'tough on drugs' and don't want to 'send out the wrong message' remember!

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Re: Report urges regulated market for cannabis to replace prohibition [Re: veggie]
    #9018015 - 10/02/08 11:51 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

It won't matter. All you need is for to be "legal" so all the noobs can go buy their taxed, potency regulated, government weed.

Do you think people are just going to stop growing chronic on their own? If anything, that will just serve as greater cover for those operations to continue.


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