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x7x_x7x
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tasteless shiitake
#9009067 - 09/30/08 04:16 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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i been growing shiitake for some months, and notice my fruits got no taste at all. shiitake aquire fragance when dehyrated, or is genetics?
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denger
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Re: tasteless shiitake [Re: x7x_x7x]
#9009446 - 09/30/08 05:18 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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All of the aboive, but could also be your substrate. What do you use?
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x7x_x7x
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Re: tasteless shiitake [Re: denger]
#9009795 - 09/30/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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poplar sawdust
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Re: tasteless shiitake [Re: x7x_x7x]
#9009936 - 09/30/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just sawdust, no other supplements? Taste definitely will be pretty blunt on such a diet. If so, I'd suggest adding some bran or other grain supplement (20% by weight), some form of calcium carbonate for buffering (crushed lime stone, chalk, crushed eggshells etc.) - about 2-5% by weight, and some longer-release protein form (my favorite is lentils because its cheap, but you can use any kind of hard seeds or dry beans). Also, poplar might not be the best kind of hardwood for shiitake's. Try to at least supplement it with other hardwood products. Hope this will improve the taste.
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Re: tasteless shiitake [Re: x7x_x7x]
#9009997 - 09/30/08 06:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think one of the reasons why chicken is so tasteless is because feedlot chickens only eat corn. They aren't allowed to go out and eat bugs and pieces of grass and stuff. Pasture raised chickens are much tastier. They also take much longer to get to market weight.
What does this have to do with shiitake? Nothing, probably! I'm no mycologist. I just know that with plants and animals, a varied diet and slower growth means more flavor and more nutrition!
I'd love to hear opinions on log grown shiitake vs. those grown on sawdust. Anyone? Anyone?!
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Quote:
some form of calcium carbonate for buffering (crushed lime stone, chalk, crushed eggshells etc.) - about 2-5% by weight
Don't use lime in woodchip or sawdust recipes. Mushroom mycelium prefers an acidic substrate. RR
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denger
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I stand corrected, no CaCO3. This was from a different chapter, sorry
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