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Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple
    #9001714 - 09/29/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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The use of a hallucinogen drug called Salvia has drastically increased, with tens of thousands of youngsters in their 20s taking it to experience a high.

The use of the herb, a member of the mint family, has largely increased as 5,000 videos detailing the legal herb's effects have already been posted on YouTube.

According to a report by Federal Health Department, 1.8 million people have used the drug in their lifetimes, and up to 750,000 tried it in the previous year.

Salvia can be bought online for 12 dollars an ounce.

Daniel Siebert, a botanist and salvia expert in Malibu, California, said that the herb was originally used in religious ceremonies by the Mazatec Indians of Oaxaca, Mexico.

"LSD is the most potent hallucinogen, and salvia is a close second," the New York Post quoted him as saying.

"It's like going into a dream world for a while, except that one still is conscious while it's happening," he added.

The herb is not banned under federal law, and thus is sold legally on line.

Arena Ethnobotanicals of Encinitas, California, is one of the companies that sells salvia online.

"We have huge volume for the New York region and have had a 1,000 percent increase over the last few months," said manager John Boyd.

Other online sellers also revealed that the demand for the drug had increased from the Empire State.

The spike in sales has spurred two state senators to try to control the drug.

In March, Senator John Sampson (D-Brooklyn) introduced a bill that would classify salvia as a Schedule 1 drug, the same category as LSD and heroin.

Upstate Senator George Maziarz (R-Niagara County) introduced a similar bill. (ANI)


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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9001818 - 09/29/08 09:32 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Shit, they're going to make it illegal in the whole country soon. :frown:

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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Le_Canard]
    #9001845 - 09/29/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Another salvia article, i didnt read the article except the first sentance.  Im sure theres something in there about how salvia produces "LSD like hullucinations and effects"


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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9001950 - 09/29/08 10:15 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

God Bless Ignorance.

12 bucks an ounce? where I come from its 40 bucks a gram!

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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9001987 - 09/29/08 10:27 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Cognitive_Shift said:
Another salvia article, i didnt read the article except the first sentance.  Im sure theres something in there about how salvia produces "LSD like hullucinations and effects"




Unfortunately, using any of the current, objective, scientific assessments of hallucinogenic effects, its likely Salvia and LSD would produce substantial overlap.

A lot of people don't realize how difficult it is to empirically document the effects of psychedelics.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: badchad]
    #9002099 - 09/29/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

wow thats sad... those people that make the countless videos on youtube about it have nothing better to do usually.

i cant theres tons of videos on youtube about the people on LSD,E,K,PCP,ayahuasca,and mecaline containing stuff, but you can find stuff about the music they listen to. i find it odd they dont say anything about the drugs i mention if its really that not that well known then good job! plz let the cops worry about someone on Salvia.

personally those people deserve pressure salvia isnt something to mess with at all and has some unhappy spirits about its use and abuse in common days


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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: thedudenj]
    #9002329 - 09/29/08 11:53 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

They always play the LSD is potent card for propaganda.  Isnt that a good thing?  That means there is a less of a chance of other more dangerous chemicals getting in the mix.  EX.  Potent marijuana is safer than mexican shwag.


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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9002400 - 09/29/08 12:11 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:

The spike in sales has spurred two state senators to try to control the drug.






Quote:

But I read:

The spike in sales has spurred two state senators to try the drug.






Would have been much better!

By the way, there's way too much stupid people 'detailing the use of salvia' on youtube. I thought it might be good to see some responsible people enjoying a salvia trip, but it's all morons on there :/

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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: arne]
    #9002405 - 09/29/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

But this one is awesome:



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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: arne]
    #9002452 - 09/29/08 12:27 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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"We have huge volume for the New York region and have had a 1,000 percent increase over the last few months,"



yet still even with the insane rise in use there still has not been one single mishap directly caused by salvia
statistically salvia is one of the safest drugs


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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Waking_Eyes]
    #9002703 - 09/29/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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God Bless Ignorance.

12 bucks an ounce? where I come from its 40 bucks a gram!




Probably the price for plain leaf, not extract.

OMG is so cheep our kids can buy it with there lunch moneys!!!  :crankey:

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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Nasrudin]
    #9002770 - 09/29/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

What can you expect.. all these dumbass kids posting their videos and shit.. while it might be entertaining its definetly not a just cause for trying to keep in legal. and although its more than videos.. its solely the ignorance of those who partake that ruin it for the rest

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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Poppygod]
    #9003129 - 09/29/08 02:48 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

shit. . .

is this for all of NY?


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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: Poppygod]
    #9003135 - 09/29/08 02:49 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

These articles seem to be so formulaic.

I find it funny they call people who are 20 "youngsters."

One day they might consider that drugs can be used spiritually and it isn't always about chasing a high or escaping.

But bravo lets focus on victimless crimes while we continue to fight a war. I wonder why i live in America.

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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: oxalic32]
    #9003313 - 09/29/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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I find it funny they call people who are 20 "youngsters."




FuK YA! Im not a GD youngster, :mad2: wtf

Shit is a joke. So, okay, youngsters in thier 20's, uh? So, now, by this BULLSHIT INCREDIBLY FUCKED UP logic, youngsters are now aloud by US law to vote. AND Youngsters are now aloud to purchase cigerettes. Youngsters are also aloud, by US law, to be porn stars. !!! Smoke em up, you porn star voting "legally adult by law" kiddies!!!!!!!!!! OH ,and "Youngsters" are also aloud to be tricked into getting thier left testicle blown off by roadside bombs, but no, thier not aloud to smoke salvia. THIER YOUNGSTERS FOR GOD SAKES!

According to that guys logic, at least.




  ..youngsters with credit cards,... :sad:


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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: 513orangejuice]
    #9004059 - 09/29/08 06:09 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

NY is where I tried salvia for the first second .... and tenth times, I hope they dont make it illegal everywhere

btw... "LSD is the most potent hallucinogen, and salvia is a close second," the New York Post quoted him as saying.

yeah. salvia is by far the most potent hallucinogen, I would say second is DMT and then third, I dont know. depends on dosage of certain things

and salvia is nothing like LSD so I already want to kill whoever that quote is by

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Re: Young hallucinogen drug users increasing in the Big Apple [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #9004149 - 09/29/08 06:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Yea the new buzz words for salvia have become "mexican LSD". I've heard it been called that a few times.

If you've tried either substance you would know they aren't really the same they're just both hallucinogens.

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