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found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed
    #8997261 - 09/28/08 08:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for popping in :smile:

any amanita muscaria officanado's want to advise me on this?

Had a bumper day today and found 2.5kg of amanita muscaria's added to the 1.25kg's i found yesterday i'd say NOW is the time to find these in the UK

will post some pics when ive laid them out but in the meantime ...

what is the best way to store these to keep their activity intact?

the last kilo i found i dried in the oven at 70 degrees till they were tinder dry then i put theat in a food blender till it was powder and stored it in an airtight tub

but i just read that drying them is the worst thing you can do to keep them active

whats the crack?

any amanita heads fancy giving me some advice on best method for storing these to keep their indredients intact?

if im drying them in the oven does the ibotenic acid or muscimol disspear with the juices?

any advice appreciated ... im sitting here wating like a lemon :laugh:

Daniel x


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: moshiach]
    #8997313 - 09/28/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

update

i have them all drying in the sun on a bench out the back, still waiting for advice on best method for long term storage

christmas is only 2 months away :wink:


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: moshiach]
    #8997324 - 09/28/08 09:18 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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moshiach said:
update

i have them all drying in the sun on a bench out the back, still waiting for advice on best method for long term storage

christmas is only 2 months away :wink:




IM pretty sure you have to heat them to realease the chemical to make them active or something like that, you better read up some more man.


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: smokdatkush]
    #8997339 - 09/28/08 09:24 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yes mate  :laugh:

i have read everything about them but like i said i read something yesterday that contradicted everything i thought i knew

my plan is to dry them in oven about 70 degrees then turn that into powder

when it comes time to ingest i shall measure out some powder and simmer that for 30min or 45 mins or so

but if muscimol and ibotenic acid are water soluble it makes me think they are leeching out with the water u


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: moshiach]
    #8997370 - 09/28/08 09:35 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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yes mate  :laugh:

i have read everything about them but like i said i read something yesterday that contradicted everything i thought i knew

my plan is to dry them in oven about 70 degrees then turn that into powder

when it comes time to ingest i shall measure out some powder and simmer that for 30min or 45 mins or so

but if muscimol and ibotenic acid are water soluble it makes me think they are leeching out with the water u




Ok just makin sure man, theres alot of noobs on here who dont read. Im in a tropical zone so im in a complete diff world of actives than you, i barley see frost all yr.


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: smokdatkush]
    #8997383 - 09/28/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Post sum pics of your finds, i love the way amanitas look, such a majestic shroom


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8997413 - 09/28/08 09:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Dry them out in the sun for a bit, 'till they're as dry as you can get them before they start to go off, then freeze em.

When you wanna ingest: cook them at gas mark 2 for an hour or 2, basting them in the juices that come out ever 15 minutes or so. This converts the ibotenic acid, making it much safer/nicer.

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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: moshiach]
    #8997909 - 09/28/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

basically i dont want to go throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

how can this juice be collected and is it psychoactive or is it just water?

as i understand it ibotenic acid and muscimol are water soluble sooo....

bit worrying if drying takes all the juice out, and the goodness is in the juice ... whats left?

can they be frozen?


ill post some pics and i made a couple videos too on youtube so ill post the link fcor that too

im with weiliiiiii too, i just love the way they look, completely out of this world, literally!

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

todays haul ...



and yesterdays harvest ...


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8997936 - 09/28/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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weiliiiiiii said:
Post sum pics of your finds, i love the way amanitas look, such a majestic shroom





go here > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrJQoSinzg

check me other vids of em too  :laugh:


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: moshiach]
    #8997937 - 09/28/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What I've been doing is taking fresh mushrooms, destemming, cutting the cap into pieces and wrapping it with press and seal.  Then I put them in my freezer.  I would also suggest making a tea from the fresh mushrooms, I would boil for 20 minutes then strain and store.  I like the tea, for the heat converts ibotenic acid, and it stores real well.  Dried does risk potency loss but I have a batch I dried in a dehydrator and they do still work, for sure.  I add a tsp or so to a tea and notice tonic effects.


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: Pauvro]
    #8998037 - 09/28/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Those are some beautiful specimens you got there! Be sure to leave some to sporulate in order to preserve the species :thumbup:


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: koraks]
    #8998203 - 09/28/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Dear pauvro, thanks very much for the advice :laugh:

i am splitting them into dried and fresh

i have a big box of powder from some i dried and powdered last night and am added some to my tea about 5 minutes ago, hehehe

i am currently trying a new thing which is to dry them in the oven on a rack but i have a baking tray underneath to catch the juices to which i added half a cup of water to begin with so it doesnt dry out , looks like the juices are running off real good and im real hopeful about that technique as it will ensure all juices are kept and the dried mushrooms too! double whammy!

ill let you know how it goes bro, thanks again for popping by :laugh:



Dear Koraks, thanks a lot man, i certainly had to work hard to find them initially, but now i know what im looking for and where they seem to be screaming out at me from every bunch of brambles i dare poke me nose into

i appreciate the advice on spreading spores too mate, but heres wot i do :wink:

when i collect the caps i place them onto shiny paper straight away for 12 hours to collect a real deep spore print, then i scrape those spores  into a pot, i take the pot of spores with me when i go hunting and if i find a nice birch or spruce that looks like it needs fly agaricking i dig a little hole by the base of the tree and add some spores and a little peice of fresh cap or a stem into that hole, then say  a prayer  :laugh:

also when i am collecting them i hold a cap in my hand and tap it as i walk around, hopefully in a few years my entire area will be awash with them

im like a walking inseminator!

and yes, they be some luuuuvverly specimens i was thinking jus the same myself on the way home

wot a lucky ugly chiti am

ill post bac\k results on my technique

meantime ill upload some more pics and vids from my skirmish/hunt

Daniel x


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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: moshiach]
    #8998224 - 09/28/08 02:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

awesome, i always tap caps when i'm hunting (usually libs, gyms or edibles though, i only ever find one or two fly agarics at once).

lovely haul, i appreciate the pics :smile:

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Re: found 2.5kg of fresh fly agaric today ... advice needed [Re: moshiach]
    #8999047 - 09/28/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

results = im fucked lovely style

method

i took 3 caps and laid them on a rack in the oven, 70 degrees celsius, door slightly ajar

underneath this i placed a baking tray with a little water in it to catch the juice

as the caps dried they released their juices into the tray, which needs to be topped up with water now and then

when dried completely i took the tray with the water and soma juice and put it in a pan with a lid, this simmered for ten minutes or so and was then poured into a cup along with 3 heaped teaspoons of hot chocolate to mask the taste

drank it down, lovely

am now starting to feel absolutely mashed

havent eaten for 24hrs so effects are almost instant

i fast often, until my tongues clean and my piss is pure water, so ill be necking my piss aswell in the mornin

speak soon

one happy camper

Daniel x





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