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Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position
    #8991921 - 09/27/08 01:57 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Henry Kissinger is for negotioting with Iran without preconditions, and Palin in an interview with Couric called Obama naive for having that position
the very position Henry holds


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Coaster]
    #8991958 - 09/27/08 02:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Wrong again, Sparky.

From http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/fact-check-kiss.html

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Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger came to the defense of longtime friend Sen. John McCain following Friday's presidential debate saying he "would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level."

"Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality," Kissinger said in statement issued by the McCain campaign.

During the debate, Obama pointed to Kissinger to defend his position because the former secretary of state supports direct talks with high-level Iranians without preconditions. Kissinger does not, however, support the U.S. president personally engaging in those talks, a point which McCain sought to drive home during the debate.




Obama, of course, has famously stated - and then confirmed repeatedly when asked for clarification - that he would personally meet Ahmadinejad without preconditions in his first year as president.





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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Phred]
    #8992001 - 09/27/08 02:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

did you hear when Mccain said that Kissinger never said that he approved of face face meetings of the president of USA and the president of Iran, Obama says, "of course not" because Obama never said that Kissinger said that either


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Coaster]
    #8992038 - 09/27/08 02:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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did you hear when Mccain said that Kissinger never said that he approved of face face meetings of the president of USA and the president of Iran, Obama says, "of course not" because Obama never said that Kissinger said that either




Even if Obama didnt say it i  don't remember if he did or not. Then it's completly irrelevant and he never should have mentioned it.To do otherwise is to imply it was at the presidential level which clearly was the topic at hand was about.


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Coaster]
    #8992543 - 09/27/08 07:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Joe Biden is such a tool


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Seuss]
    #8992609 - 09/27/08 08:50 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Seuss said:
Joe Biden is such a tool




*racist tool

"you cant go to a 711 or a dunkin' donuts unless you have a slight indian accent... I'm not joking"

he's almost as big a racist twat as obama


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    #8992636 - 09/27/08 09:27 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: dr_gonz]
    #8994324 - 09/27/08 05:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, McCain is really playing up the fear.


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Minstrel]
    #8994410 - 09/27/08 06:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure what the logic of not talking to enemies is anyways. I'm not sure what fantasy land people who thinks this is a working plan live in.


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Redstorm]
    #8994454 - 09/27/08 06:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

the logic is that there is no way of convincing them of what we believe
therefore not worth trying


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    #8994652 - 09/27/08 06:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: dr_gonz]
    #8994757 - 09/27/08 07:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't go that far. There's a time and a place for war, but it should obviously be prevented when at all possible.


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Coaster]
    #8994808 - 09/27/08 07:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
Henry Kissinger is for negotioting with Iran without preconditions, and Palin in an interview with Couric called Obama naive for having that position
the very position Henry holds





Keep lying.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/fact-check-kiss.html
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ABC News' Kirit Radia Reports: Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger came to the defense of longtime friend Sen. John McCain following Friday's presidential debate saying he "would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level."

"Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality," Kissinger said in statement issued by the McCain campaign.

During the debate, Obama pointed to Kissinger to defend his position because the former secretary of state supports direct talks with high-level Iranians without preconditions. Kissinger does not, however, support the U.S. president personally engaging in those talks, a point which McCain sought to drive home during the debate.




And for those who would ask why not the answer is quite simple.  They are our enemies.  If they wish a pulpit to denounce us they can come to the UN.  Otherwise, they can fuck off until they are not our enemies.


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8994824 - 09/27/08 07:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

And how are they not supposed to become our enemies unless we are willing to deal with them?


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Redstorm]
    #8994840 - 09/27/08 07:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Are you joking?  We are quite willing to deal with them.  Do you think the only deal is to have a press conference with the President and a lunatic saying how much America sucks?


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8994845 - 09/27/08 07:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Which, by the way, is irrelevant to the Coaster lie that is the premise of this thread.


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8994860 - 09/27/08 07:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It wouldn't have to be a press conference and there would be no reason to act like a child if he didn't have an audience.


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: Redstorm]
    #8994867 - 09/27/08 07:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.  The child reference I don't understand.  Do you think there is some wonderful yummy thing that will make these nutcases somehow get human?  Because I don't.


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8995077 - 09/27/08 08:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Turkish delight with bacon bits?


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Re: Mccain has known Henry Kissinger for 35 years and doesn't know his position [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8995257 - 09/27/08 08:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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"would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level."



thats irrelevant Obama never said Kissinger said that, why don't you prove what he actually said wrong instead of something merely related


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