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A Prediction...
    #898531 - 09/22/02 12:12 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

... that doesn't predict is not a prediction.

I know it sounds silly when I say it like that, but people ALL TOO OFTEN look to the Bible, Nostradamus, Sylvia Browne, Edgar Cayce, et al; AFTER a significant event has happened, then somehow make it fit some nebulous passage.

I will say it one more time, if it doesn't predict, it isn't a prediction.

To predict according to Webster is to "make known in advance". In advance people. Not after the fact.



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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #898558 - 09/22/02 12:26 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

Also predicting evrything you can think of and then being proud of what you are correct on is not predicting. (e.g doomsday has been unsuccesfully predicted millions of times now)


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #898562 - 09/22/02 12:29 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

I don't think events are totally fixed, but I do think that some things are "highly probable" to happen. When someone makes a prediction that doesn't happen, that does not necessarily discredit the predictor, it only shows that anything can happen...


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Adamist]
    #898598 - 09/22/02 12:49 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

Maybe Clairvoiance(sp?) is a better word??!


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Adamist]
    #898603 - 09/22/02 12:52 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

When someone makes a prediction that doesn't happen, that does not necessarily discredit the predictor

Of course not. When your doctor diagnoses you with a heart condition and you have cancer, that doesn't mean he is a quack. It fact, it gives him even MORE credence.


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #898691 - 09/22/02 02:09 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

there is always room for human error. I make errors, and you make errors. Well wait, you are...well, a robot...arent you? Anyways, that is why you always get a second opinion when it comes to doctors.  :grin: 


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899041 - 09/22/02 12:14 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

what about that irish mystic who recorded all the popes?


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: CleverName]
    #899056 - 09/22/02 12:23 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Can you be a little more vague?


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: CleverName]
    #899058 - 09/22/02 12:23 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

if i were to write down a bunch of vague predictions now, for the future, knowing what the future may be like, then many people in the future would say i was the man if my predictoins was somewhat correct. no, i dont believe any man can tell whats in store after this second has elapsed....to do so would nullify free-will, wouldnt it?


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899061 - 09/22/02 12:25 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

im not sure of his name, i saw about him on the TV. ill go try to fetch some info online, ill be back


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899067 - 09/22/02 12:31 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

http://www.800ga.com/b/seers/Malachy/malachy.htm

i predict you will check out that web site... :wink: 


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: CleverName]
    #899076 - 09/22/02 12:38 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Why do you even bring this up? Calling some future pope "the glory of the olive" is hardly a prediction nor is "from the toil of the sun". This can be applied in a thousand ways and says NOTHING.

I predict something blue will have significance to you in the coming years.


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899086 - 09/22/02 12:45 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

i dunno swami, i agree with you in the sense that it is vague, but some of the descriptopns werent. now, why do i even bring this up? dont ask obvious questions just to be annoying, please.


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899090 - 09/22/02 12:48 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

In reply to:

I predict something blue will have significance to you in the coming years.




omg, did you make this prediction a few years ago? cause like, I had a dream involving the color blue which changed my life
you are so fucking psychic, man
even if you just made it, it's still a great prediction, it's like, prediction of the past, yeah!


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: CleverName]
    #899099 - 09/22/02 12:54 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

I'm annoying? Why don't you post one of his exact descriptions of the Pope's name, age, country of origin and when he reigned. "Blue of Moon" or whatever doesn't count in my book.


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899110 - 09/22/02 01:01 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

ah, didnt mean to say you were annoying, how could you be? i meant to say dont ask annoying ???s


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Re: A Prediction... *DELETED* [Re: CleverName]
    #899116 - 09/22/02 01:04 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899118 - 09/22/02 01:05 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

like i said before, i dont believe any man can tell whats in store after this second has elapsed, but a "god" maybe, and thats a tough maybe...


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899121 - 09/22/02 01:07 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

sure swam, ill remove it...didnt mean to make anyone cry...just making a funny, thats all


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899124 - 09/22/02 01:09 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

AWWWW  :frown:
I missed it :frown:
what did he say?  :smile:


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899139 - 09/22/02 01:25 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

hey, i see predictions all the time, watch the weather cannel


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Swami]
    #899347 - 09/22/02 03:36 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

I here make a prediction on the record of what's to come in the future.

I predict there will be a fake alien invasion staged on planet earth in about 30 to 100 years.

hehehehe, bet Nostradamus would never think of that one haha.


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: chodamunky]
    #899410 - 09/22/02 04:09 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

What do you mean by fake?


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: chodamunky]
    #899862 - 09/22/02 07:48 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

hey dude i believe that the same thing wll happen too (a fake alien invasion)

1. A nuclear attack will have on american soil soon!
2. The NWO army will march the globe
3. The Fake alien invasion ( its really just secert govs building these units for years).
4. Everyone on earth will hear a voice in the heads one day ( something like "i have come") Everyone Everywhere!
5. 1/3 or the earth vegation will be gone ( look at columbia now), 1/3 of earths waters (Giveing corps. premission to dump shit in oceans), 1/3 of the skys will darken due to pollution( OIL OIL OIL).
6.We try to form a cashless society (mark of beast) (angel technologies), This same mark will enslave your 3rd Eye (Enslaving your soul)
7. (Im guessng on this one) We as humanity will figure out that no *one* human can be god, and that god is in yourself (we are creators of our own destiny) (aka the return of christ meaning the simple knowleadge of god in yourself)
8. The total collapse of everything
9. We rebuild a world of true freedom and peace, The new garden of eden for 1000 years

It will go something like that!


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Adamist]
    #900443 - 09/22/02 11:59 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

i think johnnyfive summed it up pretty nicely, I will expand a little further on the fake alien invasion.

As you already know,  "E.T. culture" has hit the world by storm. 100 years ago if you said aliens may possibly exist elsewhere in the universe people would look at you funny. Now there are mathematical formulas almost proving aliens exist in the universe. My point is, aliens have become a huge commercial success and people today are much more easily persuaded that they may have already made contact with humans. This is exactly what the government wants you to believe. Why? Here are a few points:

- there is no denying that the governments of earth are moving toward a new world order aka NWO or a one world government. Just look at the UN, or the new Euro currency. It's all about centralization to have more control of the people.

- in order to make people accept a one world government, there will have to be an external threat where all humanity will unite as one to fight the enemy.

This is where the fake alien invasion comes in. What better way to unite all nations of the world? If you have watched Independance Day you will know what I mean. Just recently the huge success movie Signs came out. With these films, they are studying how people react to different situations they are seeing, so when they plan a real invasion, they will know exactly what will push the right buttons. And by the way, a fake alien invasion was already staged here on earth back a few decades ago. Remember War of The Worlds? It was a University of Berkley experiment where a radio station down in the states (forgot which one) had a show on claiming that aliens were attacking the city. They had real newcasters "on the scene" reporting the action, and yes u betcha people believed it! They were scared shitless until they were told it was just a hoax.

Here's a theory of how it will go down:

The International Space Station or satelites will be equipped with huge hologram projectors that will beam images from space. Hovering ships like in Independance Day will be seen floating over cities and people will run down the streets just like they were showed to. Several of these ships will be projected over the major cities of the world, and strategically placed bombs in buildings will make it look like the spaceships are destroying the city. If that doesn't convince you, a fake army of aliens will invade major cities. How they will do this I'm not sure so I'll stop right here.

so there you go, hope you had a fun read  :grin: 


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: chodamunky]
    #900490 - 09/23/02 12:17 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

You make some good points, but I don't see how you can be so sure that aliens aren't involved too, "behind the scenes"...


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #900875 - 09/23/02 04:11 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

do you realize that if you sat in the same room for your whole life the past, present and future would sink infinitely small. what if you sat in a plain white room with absolutely no outside stimulation. would there be a just one moment, of course. So many have spoke of the white light at the end of the tunnel, the bliss of oneness, the eternal moment. how do you get there? you can only be there, you are there. your perceptions create your reality. what if you just sat there in bliss for your entire life meditating on the inner white light in complete darkness, how could you not get there if you are there, how could not see it if you simply decide to look. knock and the door shall be opened unto you.

if you want to see your future you have to know yourself to be your future, you are the future, you are evolving, the collective planet is evolving. why contemplate predictions when you are the one doing the creating?


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: ViBrAnT]
    #903333 - 09/24/02 01:47 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

The New World Orders ... favorite moto is ... Order in Chaos

You create the chaos ... (supposed evil drug abuse), terroists( if you piss enough people off and buy off all goverments in the world), Alien invasion ( its really just secert sociatys manly composed of CEO's that have had a plan of world domination). And you offer the order (the NWO) with a price tag (your fucking souls)

We humanity sees this shit they willl think its the work of a aliens. Which it isn't, its just the technologys have been kept from the world.

Tesla invented all that shit like back in the 1920's

All this is happening, because so many people have there thoughts and ideas ONLY focused on MONEY. The NWO knows this.

I also for got to mention that everyones explaination of god will appear to humainty, they all thought of god as external (always someone else) and this will come back to bite them in there ASS!!!!!!!!

Youll see water monoploylized (shit spelling)
Youll see corperations that are the new slave plantations. (almost already are)
In the end 3/4ths of the world populations will be killed.

Although i believe the alien invasion will be the ufo type aircrafts that many have seen in the last century. They will fly out of underground hangers (that these units have been being built for a loooong time) Millions of them maybe billions of them, they will come and probibly start to destroy shit. When start to try to shoot these things down. With missiles they have no radars, when they try bullets the skin of the aircraft will repair its self after its shot(nanotechnologies). They will move like no other aircraft! Lighting speeds, stop on a dime. Hover, Supieror firer power. It will truely be a unstoppable force. They use element 115, in combination with the earths magnetic fields. (something like that )


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Re: A Prediction... [Re: johnnyfive]
    #903384 - 09/24/02 02:08 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

And what does the bible have to say about all of this.

Well since humanity has always interpreted the bible wrong they to believe jesus or christ was external.

The bible says there will be a burst of knowledge. The worlds elite will discover that the textbook god doesn't exist, but god is a state of mind. Knowing this they probe the deepest reaches of the psyche and find that we can create the most profound techonologies.

They setup this plan to carry out world domination, TO BE TRUE GODS WORSHIPED BY THE ENTIRE PLANET. The anti-christ! (One man appearing to mankind as there god!)

Its funny bible also says that all (the revelations) of this will happen with in one generation. (a relatively sort time)

I believe in the motto ... power is give... control is taken!!!!!

It took 100 years to get the people to give the power (sale there souls for MONEY)(fundamentals of dept), its will only take 10 to 20 years to take total control.

But the bible also says that humanity will trumpth over this.. (i really don't know how due to the magnitude of all this but) it also says they WILL.

The bible says christ will be found in YOU! So i guess humanity will learn this somehow.


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