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Joe Biden, Imbecile
    #8973030 - 09/23/08 01:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have to laugh when the Democrats and the press (but I repeat myself) attempt to justify their over-the-top attacks on Sarah Palin by claiming maybe McCain will die and she will end up being president, and having Sarah Palin as president would be a complete disaster.

Thing is, it's entirely possible Obama will die, and we'd end up with Joe Biden -- Joe freaking Biden as president. Is there any rational human being on the face of the earth familiar with Biden's pronouncements who would feel more comfortable with this buffoon in charge than Sarah Palin? Or for that matter, than Homer Simpson?

The man is a living gaffe factory: a bloviating, garrulous, stream-of-consciousness (to insult the concept of consciousness) babbler of mendacious gibberish. And he's been just that for the entirety of his three and a half decades of warming a chair in the US Senate.

I could fill pages and pages with examples of his stupidity just since the start of this campaign, let alone his entire career, but here's one of his most recent.

From http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Biden_garbles_Depression_history.html?showall

Quote:

Biden garbles Depression history

Joe Biden's denunciation of his own campaign's ad to Katie Couric got so much attention last night that another odd note in the interview slipped by.

He was speaking about the role of the White House in a financial crisis.

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

As Reason's Jesse Walker footnotes it: "And if you owned an experimental TV set in 1929, you would have seen him. And you would have said to yourself, 'Who is that guy? What happened to President Hoover?'" 




Jesus wept.





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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8973037 - 09/23/08 01:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Phred said:

Jesus wept.





of course he did, jesus was gay.
he always wept


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8973049 - 09/23/08 01:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television

:rofl2:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8973091 - 09/23/08 01:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Joe Biden does or says something stupid every single fucking day!

Personally i think its a conspiracy.:eek: Biden who is good friends with Hillary is setting up Obama’s loss so the Clinton's can run in 2012!


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8973120 - 09/23/08 01:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

haha, i wouldn't doubt it.
the guys behind the curtains (in the lobby, actually) have it all planned out, doesn't really matter who we vote for


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: piracetam]
    #8973283 - 09/23/08 01:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.macpac08.com/2008/09/joe-biden-contradicts-obama-campaign.html
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Barack Obama pledges on his website that his administration will:

    Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology.
    Obama’s Department of Energy will enter into public private partnerships to develop five “first-of-a-kind” commercial scale coal-fired plants with clean carbon capture and sequestration technology

But in Ohio, Biden was asked by a voter: "Wind and solar are flourishing here in Ohio, so why are you supporting clean coal?"

Biden replied: "We're not supporting 'clean coal.' Guess what. China's building two every week. Two dirty coal plants. And it's polluting the United States. It's causing people to die. ... China is burning three hundred years of bad coal unless we figure out how to clean their coal up. Because it's going to ruin your lungs and there's nothing we can do about it. No coal plants here in America. Build them, if they're going to build them over there make 'em clean because they're killing you."




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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8973666 - 09/23/08 03:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Its ironic with all the dope addicts bashing Sarah Palin that the Democrats have the most anti-drug candidate who could become president.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8817903/an/0/page/0


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Luddite]
    #8973682 - 09/23/08 03:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Do you ever make a post that has anything to do with the topic at hand?:flowstone:


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Luddite]
    #8973706 - 09/23/08 03:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Luddite said:
Its ironic with all the dope addicts bashing Sarah Palin that the Democrats have the most anti-drug candidate who could become president.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8817903/an/0/page/0




Agreed. I made a thread about this (regarding Joe Biden's stance on drugs).


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8973741 - 09/23/08 03:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

pinkfloydms said:
Do you ever make a post that has anything to do with the topic at hand?:flowstone:




it idiocy of Biden is the topic, I believe the idiocy of
obama/biden worshipers can be squeezed in


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8973811 - 09/23/08 03:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well, there will be a veep debate, and at least there, I expect someone to mention McCain's age, and the increased importance of veeps in recent times.

I just don't get how anyone can say that Palin is better than Biden, as a politician.  That would have to be one convoluted argument.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Ferris]
    #8973829 - 09/23/08 03:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Ferris said:

I just don't get how anyone can say that Palin is better than Biden, as a politician.  That would have to be one convoluted argument.




lets see how you feel after the Biden/Palin Debate.:smirk:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8973840 - 09/23/08 03:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They'll keep Palin to the script.  If she strays, she's screwed.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Ferris]
    #8973852 - 09/23/08 03:55 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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They'll keep Palin to the script.  If she strays, she's screwed.




palin can speak, she can think, all I've seen joe biden think about was miller time


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8973858 - 09/23/08 03:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Of course I expect the MSM to say Palin won the debate, because they hold her to such low standards/expectations on foreign policy. All she has to do is skirt around the answers (like every other politician) and not answer something totally wrong and she wins.
Biden on the other hand will be held to a high standard since he has been a politician for so long.


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8973896 - 09/23/08 04:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:rofl2:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8973904 - 09/23/08 04:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

?


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8973908 - 09/23/08 04:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8973933 - 09/23/08 04:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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pinkfloydms said:
Of course I expect the MSM to say Palin won the debate, because they hold her to such low standards/expectations on foreign policy. All she has to do is skirt around the answers (like every other politician) and not answer something totally wrong and she wins.
Biden on the other hand will be held to a high standard since he has been a politician for so long.




all biden has to do is open his mouth!




“In my house, being raised with a sister and three brothers, there was an absolute – it was a nuclear sanction, if under any circumstances, for any reason, no matter how justified, even self-defense – if you ever touched your sister, not figuratively, literally. My sister, who is my best friend, my campaign manager, my confidante, grew up with absolute impunity in our household… And I have the bruises to prove it. I mean that sincerely. I am not exaggerating when I say that.”

Joe Biden




I honestly believe Joe Biden does not know what the fuck he is talking about half the time.....




Biden Babble and the Dancing Fool

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/09/17/biden-babble-and-the-dancing-fool/


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Luddite]
    #8973934 - 09/23/08 04:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

You actually read that site? Is it ran by the Grand Wizard?

Some of the shit on there is pretty funny though.


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8973975 - 09/23/08 04:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

no i didn't know that i just stumbled upon the quote. I thought it was hilarious!




"In my house, being raised with a sister and three brothers, there was an absolute – it was a nuclear sanction, if under any circumstances, for any reason, no matter how justified, even self-defense – if you ever touched your sister, not figuratively, literally. My sister, who is my best friend, my campaign manager, my confidante, grew up with absolute impunity in our household… And I have the bruises to prove it. I mean that sincerely. I am not exaggerating when I say that.”


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8973996 - 09/23/08 04:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What the hell was he talking about?


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8974037 - 09/23/08 04:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Biden is seriously the worst kind of politician.  How Obama got this guy, I'll never know.


At least obama's message and history is vacuous enough that it can be denied or molded to fit your own desires, Biden is a stone-cold ass through and through.


I love his stance on coal.


Really, what do these nuts want to do for power?  Seriously now?  When did the democrats go off the deep end with this clean energy stuff?  I don't remember them being like this when I was in high school.


Biden should stick to what he knows best: being the prison industry's best friend, and enemy to all who would like to be able to make their own economic, personal, and energy choices without checking with the president (commerce clause be damned).  I seriously hope that man gets the heart attack they keep predicting for McCain.  I'd rather take 8 years  of McCain than even a chance of having Biden have anything to do with the executive office of the USA.


I really don't know waht this guy's talking about.


Did Biden just think the stock market crashed and we got the new deal the next day?  Shit doesn't work that way, as he should know.  And I'll leave the television comment alone.  It makes sense that Biden is promoting the new deal crap that forever changed our constitution and empowered the federal government to invade every nook and cranny of our lives, sewing circles included to quote lonestar's avatar's comment.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8974054 - 09/23/08 04:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> Biden on the other hand will be held to a high standard since he has been a politician for so long.

And here I thought everybody would give Biden the benefit of the doubt for the same reason... and scrutinize everything Palin says, well, for the opposite reason.  Silly me.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8974057 - 09/23/08 04:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

pinkfloydms said:
What the hell was he talking about?




Whats crazy is i probably would have fun getting drunk and going fishing with the dude.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Seuss]
    #8974061 - 09/23/08 04:41 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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> Biden on the other hand will be held to a high standard since he has been a politician for so long.

And here I thought everybody would give Biden the benefit of the doubt for the same reason... and scrutinize everything Palin says, well, for the opposite reason.  Silly me.





You're such a clever guy Seuss.:grin:



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—Ace

Did I say "herself"? I meant "himself."


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Edited by lonestar2004 (09/23/08 09:48 PM)


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8975653 - 09/23/08 09:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
http://www.macpac08.com/2008/09/joe-biden-contradicts-obama-campaign.html
Quote:

Barack Obama pledges on his website that his administration will:

    Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology.
    Obama’s Department of Energy will enter into public private partnerships to develop five “first-of-a-kind” commercial scale coal-fired plants with clean carbon capture and sequestration technology

But in Ohio, Biden was asked by a voter: "Wind and solar are flourishing here in Ohio, so why are you supporting clean coal?"

Biden replied: "We're not supporting 'clean coal.' Guess what. China's building two every week. Two dirty coal plants. And it's polluting the United States. It's causing people to die. ... China is burning three hundred years of bad coal unless we figure out how to clean their coal up. Because it's going to ruin your lungs and there's nothing we can do about it. No coal plants here in America. Build them, if they're going to build them over there make 'em clean because they're killing you."











I wonder how long before Obama just tells him to shut the fuck up!


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8976068 - 09/23/08 10:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

this sucks. I am beginning to hate election years. nothing but smear, lies, and hatred.

Fuck this stupid system


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: mick]
    #8976093 - 09/23/08 10:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What's wrong with smears lies and hatred?  Should we not attack people that have bad ideas or bad policy proposals?

I think its revealing that the VP has what is in my opinion at once an incredibly stupid energy goal (what is it, no coal?  We all run off flower power?) and has no apparent idea what his platform is supposed to be.


People often bemoan the lack of substantive anything in politicians proposals and their failure to answer questions directly.  Here we have a bit of that, but a lot of a contradictory message.


What is your frustration in general?  I don't understand why you wouldn't like smears lies and hatred.



Get the truth out man.  It is disconcerting that some folks hang their choice on stupid issues such as substanceless smears (obama and ayers, palin and the trooper boss thing, et cet) but whatever.  That's democracy.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8976142 - 09/23/08 11:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:





I wonder how long before Obama just tells him to shut the fuck up!



i thought that video actually made him look really good
that fool is straight up green
none of that drill drill drill bullshit


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Coaster]
    #8976607 - 09/24/08 12:44 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic and banking systems.

Biden was telling the truth


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Coaster]
    #8976912 - 09/24/08 04:04 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> Biden was telling the truth

Might wanna look up when the television was invented; less about truth and more about stupidity.  :rolleyes:

Quote:

When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television...




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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Coaster]
    #8977379 - 09/24/08 07:54 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:





I wonder how long before Obama just tells him to shut the fuck up!



i thought that video actually made him look really good
that fool is straight up green
none of that drill drill drill bullshit





Maybe its just me, but i can't figure out what the hell he's talking about half the time...


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Coaster]
    #8977383 - 09/24/08 07:56 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Coaster whenever i read your posts i hear this song in the back of my head!

.mu.nu/


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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    #8977487 - 09/24/08 08:34 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

911 was an inside job


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: FlurbDurb]
    #8977534 - 09/24/08 08:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Way to make a completely irrelevant post.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Redstorm]
    #8977621 - 09/24/08 09:15 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

At least he didn't start a "911 was an inside job" thread.:smirk:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8977806 - 09/24/08 10:31 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

*Yawn*

Anyone who has been in public life as long as Biden will make his share of gaffes. Reagan sure made his share but is well-regarded years later. This is stupid, election-year stuff.

The same people pushing this were probably also defending Dan Quayle.

Election years.

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Seuss]
    #8977819 - 09/24/08 10:36 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Might wanna look up when the television was invented; less about truth and more about stupidity.




Nope. It's just simple ignorance. There is a difference.

I imagine if you took a poll many, if not most, Americans would make the same mistake about an irrelevant historical detail such as this.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: zorbman]
    #8977896 - 09/24/08 11:01 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> Nope. It's just simple ignorance.

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: zorbman]
    #8977907 - 09/24/08 11:04 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, it's not just the "irrelevant historical detail" that there was nothing other than experimental television equipment in 1929, it's that Roosevelt wasn't president at the time, Hoover was.

Here we have a guy who has been in the United States Senate for thirty-six years who doesn't even know what year one of the most revered Democratic (his own party, remember) presidents of all time became president.

Biden's pronouncements make Bush look like a genius. There is no other US politician as downright stupid as this asshat, as anyone who watched the Democratic candidate debates can attest. Or anyone who has had the unfortunate experience of watching the various committees on C-Span on which Biden has served. He's a freaking self-parody.




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    #8977933 - 09/24/08 11:10 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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> Nope. It's just simple ignorance.

Great... an ignorant politician... just what we need.




Everyone is ignorant of something.

And (brace yourself) politicans also have been known to lie from time to time.

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    #8977934 - 09/24/08 11:10 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know if I would go as far as calling him more ignorant than bush.:lol:


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    #8977962 - 09/24/08 11:17 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not defending Biden's statement. It was incorrect. What I'm saying is in the span of decades of public statements you will find a treasure trove of gaffes from most any politician. Edit them together and you can make anyone look like a bufoon. Come on. This is typical partisan stuff in an election year. I know you are highly partisan but I hope you can at least admit to yourself what is going on here.

Give me a one hour televised interview with virtually anyone and I can edit that tape to make them look like a jackass. I can show them scratching their butt, picking their nose, fumbling for words, etc and edit that into one long shot.

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: zorbman]
    #8978115 - 09/24/08 12:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, this is Joe Biden we're talking about here. Joe has been providing entertainment for decades to people of both parties. He's famous for his gaffes. This isn't a case of sifting through three and a half decades of his pronouncements and winding up with several dozen howlers, this is a case of watching pretty much any video of pretty much any of his public appearances and coming up with two or three Bidenisms from each one. He is constitutionally incapable of shutting up. Even fellow Democrats were razzing him for his lengthy and bloviating rambling speeches (which were supposed to be actual questions) on the various Senate investigatory panels he's been on over the last couple of years. Point a camera at this guy and it's like ringing a bell for Pavlov's dogs - off he goes a mile a minute till someone takes him down in a chokehold from behind and drags him off the stage.

The man is a dolt. Always has been, always will be.





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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Seuss]
    #8978123 - 09/24/08 12:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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> Biden was telling the truth

Might wanna look up when the television was invented; less about truth and more about stupidity.  :rolleyes:

Quote:

When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television...






ok so he meant to say radio and not television is that really that big of a gaffe
i think gaffing about troop levels and surge timeline and mixing sunni and shiites is WAY bigger of a deal


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Coaster]
    #8978185 - 09/24/08 12:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Leave aside the whole radio/television thing and concentrate on who he thought was president of the US in October 1929. I'm not even an American and I would never have said Roosevelt was president at the time of the market crash!



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    #8978234 - 09/24/08 12:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Point a camera at this guy and it's like ringing a bell for Pavlov's dogs - off he goes a mile a minute till someone takes him down in a chokehold from behind and drags him off the stage.




A politician who gets long-winded when a camera is on?

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8978258 - 09/24/08 12:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Leave aside the whole radio/television thing and concentrate on who he thought was president of the US in October 1929. I'm not even an American and I would never have said Roosevelt was president at the time of the market crash!



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During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic and banking systems.

so during the 30s, during the great depression, he went on the radio and did exactly but Biden said he did


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    #8978277 - 09/24/08 12:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

At least Joe Biden didn't vote in support of the bridge to nowhere in Alaska.  He would have been a real idiot to do that, after condemning Palin for her supposed support of it.  (Good thing Obama didn't vote in favor of the bridge either.)  :rolleyes:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8978283 - 09/24/08 12:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Leave aside the whole radio/television thing and concentrate on who he thought was president of the US in October 1929. I'm not even an American and I would never have said Roosevelt was president at the time of the market crash!



Phred




Politicians..hell, people can and do say stupid, even incomprehensible, things all the time. Republican Gerald Ford, a sitting President mind you, during a televised Presidential debate said, "There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe and there never will be under a Ford administration."

The man didn't know our deadly enemy controlled Eastern Europe during the height of the Cold War for Christ's sake!!

But of course you won't point out such things because you sir are a rabid partisan. You only point out mistakes on the other side, never your own. You are not an honest broker when it comes to this sort of thing.

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: zorbman]
    #8978317 - 09/24/08 12:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Context... followed by:

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I don't believe the Yugoslavians consider themselves dominated by the Soviet Union. I don't believe that the Rumanians consider themselves dominated by the Soviet Union. I don't believe that the Poles consider themselves dominated by the Soviet Union. Each of those countries is independent, autonomous: it has its own territorial integrity and the United States does not concede that those countries are under the domination of the Soviet Union. As a matter of fact, I visited Poland, Yugoslavia and Rumania to make certain that the people of those countries understood that the president of the United States and the people of the United are dedicated to their independence, their autonomy and their freedom.




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    #8978328 - 09/24/08 12:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Even worse. He was given a chance to correct himself and repeated the mistake.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Coaster]
    #8978432 - 09/24/08 01:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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so during the 30s, during the great depression, he went on the radio and did exactly but Biden said he did




Except Biden said he did it on television, and Biden says he did it in October of 1929, not during the Thirties. Apart from those two minor details, Biden was bang on.

Reading comprehension, man, reading comprehension.




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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8978469 - 09/24/08 01:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

To be honest I didn't know who the president was at the time of the depression. It's been so long since history class, that I had forgotten.


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    #8978470 - 09/24/08 01:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Leave aside the whole radio/television thing and concentrate on who he thought was president of the US in October 1929. I'm not even an American and I would never have said Roosevelt was president at the time of the market crash!



Phred




Really? Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't. Try being 100% coherant 100% of the time while giving hundreds of speeches a year during non-stop fundraising in a new town every day while getting by on a few hours of sleep a night and living on a diet of coffee and honeybuns and see how many gaffes you make.

I know I would make my share and if you are honest you'll admit the same. A few might even end up on Youtube. :wink:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8978471 - 09/24/08 01:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm sure hr meant it too :yesnod:

At least he'll be providing the right with some entertainment for the next 8 years.  He's like the funny uncle.  I know bushisms helped me get through these last 8


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    #8978494 - 09/24/08 01:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm sure hr meant it too :yesnod:




Fake outrage is the order of the day in this Silly Season.

Partisans will throw anything to see if it sticks whether they actually believe it or not.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8978847 - 09/24/08 02:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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To be honest I didn't know who the president was at the time of the depression.




And you can be forgiven for that. But you are not a professional politician, one of just a hundred people in the whole world inhabiting the US Senate. One of just six people in the whole world who have been there for thirty-six freaking years. One who belongs to the same party as Roosevelt did. This is FDR, remember... one of the most (if not the most) revered Democrats in history.

I don't expect Biden to be able to tell us just where in the periodic table of elements we might find silicon, but I do expect him... and EVERY member of Congress... to know who was president when the stock market crash of 1929 occurred.







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    #8978856 - 09/24/08 02:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I agree. :thumbup:


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #8978939 - 09/24/08 02:55 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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But you are not a professional politician, one of just a hundred people in the whole world inhabiting the US Senate. One of just six people in the whole world who have been there for thirty-six freaking years. One who belongs to the same party as Roosevelt did. This is FDR, remember... one of the most (if not the most) revered Democrats in history.

I don't expect Biden to be able to tell us just where in the periodic table of elements we might find silicon, but I do expect him... and EVERY member of Congress... to know who was president when the stock market crash of 1929 occurred.







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    #8978952 - 09/24/08 02:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

IQ doesn't have anything to do with remembering history.


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    #8978965 - 09/24/08 03:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Dude, it's not just the "irrelevant historical detail" that there was nothing other than experimental television equipment in 1929, it's that Roosevelt wasn't president at the time, Hoover was.

Here we have a guy who has been in the United States Senate for thirty-six years who doesn't even know what year one of the most revered Democratic (his own party, remember) presidents of all time became president.

Biden's pronouncements make Bush look like a genius. There is no other US politician as downright stupid as this asshat, as anyone who watched the Democratic candidate debates can attest. Or anyone who has had the unfortunate experience of watching the various committees on C-Span on which Biden has served. He's a freaking self-parody.




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Yep, it isn't irrelevant, he was inferring that the stock market crashed and we had the new deal in a few months- which didn't happen.  Its a period in time he should have some basic knowledge about, espcially about roosevelt given his substantial involvement, and how that period in time will forever be remembered as the point when the federal government broke free of any constitutional restraint as to its size and ability to meddle with individual's lives in every conceivable way.


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What concerns me far more is the misstatements John McCain has made repeatedly regarding Iran. I think this is much more relevant to the life of the average American today than something that happened almost eighty years ago. But he gets a free pass from partisans because he's a republican.

Sen. John McCain has done it again.

For the third time in two days, the Arizona Republican has pushed the definitively false statement that the terrorist group Al-Qaeda was getting assistance from Iran, even though he was publicly ridiculed for the same false assertion on Tuesday.

This time, in a statement from his campaign honoring the fifth year anniversary of the war, McCain wrote:

"Today in Iraq, America and our allies stand on the precipice of winning a major victory against radical Islamic extremism. The security gains over the past year have been dramatic and undeniable. Al Qaeda and Shia extremists -- with support from external powers such as Iran -- are on the run but not defeated."

On Tuesday, the senator, appearing in Israel, made a nearly identical assertion that al-Qaeda was leaving Iraq to retool and regroup in Iran.

It was, he said, "common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that's well known. And it's unfortunate."

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who was accompanying McCain on the trip, was forced to lean over and whisper in McCain's ear that it was Shiite extremists, not Sunni al-Qaeda, that was going to predominantly Shiite Iran.

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: johnm214]
    #8979005 - 09/24/08 03:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

In regard to the New Deal, which we are still fucking paying for today, I have read more than one argument that it actually prolonged the Depression.

Biden is a veritable assembly line of gaffes.  Henry Ford would be proud.


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    #8979069 - 09/24/08 03:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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In regard to the New Deal, which we are still fucking paying for today, I have read more than one argument that it actually prolonged the Depression.




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I'm sure you can't.


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    #8979132 - 09/24/08 03:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I can, and I have.  Use the search function if you wish to verify my claim, because this is off topic.


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Pair arrested for bags of 'Obama'
By: Rose Quinn, rquinn@delcotiems.com

Two Delaware residents are giving new meaning to the term "pushing" Obama, according to criminal drug charges filed Thursday.
Fifty-two bags of heroin in bags stamped both with letters spelling out OBAMA and an image in the likeness of Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama were confiscated following a routine car stop on Interstate 95 in Upper Chichester, according to Pennsylvania State Police.
Arrested were driver Nichelle Prince, 26, and Jacquene Walker, 21. The two were arraigned on drug offenses before Magisterial District Judge David J. Murphy in Aston. Bail was set at 10 percent of $20,000 each.
A preliminary hearing is scheduled next week in Magisterial District Judge David Griffin's court in Lower Chichester.
According to the affidavit of probable cause for arrest written by Trooper Joseph Thompson, the drugs were en route from Delaware to Chester.
Thursday night, authorities in Chester said they had not seen any similar packaging on the street as of yet.
"We've seen Jesus, stars, spiders, all kinds of stuff, but not very detailed. They look more like a little kid's rubber stamp," said city Narcotics Capt. Alan Davis.
He said the stamp signifies a specific dealer, or a group working together.
According to the arrest affidavit, Thompson was on patrol when he saw a northbound while Buick with dark tinted windows.
Thompson activated the lights on the marked state police cruiser to initiate a stop around 12:35 p.m. He approached the vehicle and asked the driver to put the windows down because he couldn't see inside. The driver, who put the back window down, identified herself as Prince, but said she did not have her license with her. A piece of paper she provided for the car had the name Nichelle Clint written on it. She told Thompson she didn't know why that name was on the paper.
In the time it took Thompson to speak with the passenger, learn he didn't have identification and walk back to Prince, she had her driver's license in hand.
Prince was eventually found to have been driving with a suspended license. Thompson called for a tow truck.
During an inventory search, Thompson found four bundles of heroin stamped "OBAMA" in the console of the car. Prince and Walker were arrested without incident.

©DelcoTimes 2008

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Luddite]
    #8979314 - 09/24/08 03:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Like I said before. Do any of your posts ever have anything to do with the topic at hand?


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    #8979361 - 09/24/08 04:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Pair arrested for bags of 'Obama'
By: Rose Quinn, rquinn@delcotiems.com

Two Delaware residents are giving new meaning to the term "pushing" Obama, according to criminal drug charges filed Thursday.
Fifty-two bags of heroin in bags stamped both with letters spelling out OBAMA and an image in the likeness of Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama were confiscated following a routine car stop on Interstate 95 in Upper Chichester, according to Pennsylvania State Police.
Arrested were driver Nichelle Prince, 26, and Jacquene Walker, 21. The two were arraigned on drug offenses before Magisterial District Judge David J. Murphy in Aston. Bail was set at 10 percent of $20,000 each.
A preliminary hearing is scheduled next week in Magisterial District Judge David Griffin's court in Lower Chichester.
According to the affidavit of probable cause for arrest written by Trooper Joseph Thompson, the drugs were en route from Delaware to Chester.
Thursday night, authorities in Chester said they had not seen any similar packaging on the street as of yet.
"We've seen Jesus, stars, spiders, all kinds of stuff, but not very detailed. They look more like a little kid's rubber stamp," said city Narcotics Capt. Alan Davis.
He said the stamp signifies a specific dealer, or a group working together.
According to the arrest affidavit, Thompson was on patrol when he saw a northbound while Buick with dark tinted windows.
Thompson activated the lights on the marked state police cruiser to initiate a stop around 12:35 p.m. He approached the vehicle and asked the driver to put the windows down because he couldn't see inside. The driver, who put the back window down, identified herself as Prince, but said she did not have her license with her. A piece of paper she provided for the car had the name Nichelle Clint written on it. She told Thompson she didn't know why that name was on the paper.
In the time it took Thompson to speak with the passenger, learn he didn't have identification and walk back to Prince, she had her driver's license in hand.
Prince was eventually found to have been driving with a suspended license. Thompson called for a tow truck.
During an inventory search, Thompson found four bundles of heroin stamped "OBAMA" in the console of the car. Prince and Walker were arrested without incident.

©DelcoTimes 2008

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: zorbman]
    #8979618 - 09/24/08 04:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Really? Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't. Try being 100% coherant 100% of the time while giving hundreds of speeches





it's the budweiser, did you not see the way he was talking to
the chick in the video, he had to use her as a crutch, it's
not the number of speeches he gives at any given time, it's
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    #8984954 - 09/25/08 03:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Biden -- Energy Gasbag
Biden is one of those politicians who honors the old notion of looking like he might be an idiot, and then he speaks and removes all doubt. Democrats are determined to punish America over energy. They seem consumed by the lunacy that energy is like alcohol -- a good-time elixir consumed at parties that leads to headaches in the morning.

It's not. The prosperity of the US has sprung from a few well known sources: Democracy and Capitalism, and Energy. Cheap abundant Energy. Biden, however, is befuddled when it comes to the role of energy in the economy. Worse, he thinks it's better for America if energy costs more.

Based on his support for punitive strategies like cap-and-trade, it's clear Biden wants to enact as many de facto taxes as possible on Americans who utilize the energy that makes the economy move.



Biden's Coal Slaw

The classic definition of a gaffe is when a politician accidentally tells the truth, and specialists like Joe Biden can work wonders with the form. On Tuesday Barack Obama's running mate blew an easy question about coal, revealing volumes about liberal energy politics.

Working the rope line in Maumee, Ohio, the Senator was asked by an environmentalist why he and Mr. Obama support "clean coal." "We're not supporting clean coal," Mr. Biden responded. Then, riffing on China's breakneck construction of new coal plants, he continued, "No coal plants here in America. Build them, if they're going to build them, over there."

Coal happens to be the indispensable workhorse of the U.S. power system, providing about 50% of the country's electricity. Many Democrats nonetheless despise coal -- because of pollution before the era of scrubbers, but especially now because of carbon emissions. Al Gore favors an outright moratorium on coal-fired power in the name of climate change. Meanwhile, any scheme to tax and regulate carbon -- like the cap-and-trade program backed by Mr. Obama and John McCain -- would hit coal first and hardest, effectively banishing it from the U.S. energy mix.

Mr. Biden, then, only stated an obvious if politically unutterable truth. The real costs of green ambitions won't be paid by well-heeled coastal liberals, but will fall disproportionately on the Southern and Midwestern states that depend on coal for jobs and power. The blue-collar voters of Pennsylvania, Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia and so forth will get hurt most -- notwithstanding Mr. Biden's campaign reinvention as the scrapper from Scranton.

As for "clean coal," the Obama campaign actually supports it. But this too is a political bait-and-switch, perhaps explaining Mr. Biden's confusion. In theory, clean coal would require capturing greenhouse gas emissions, compressing them into liquid and then pumping it underneath the earth. Even if the technology were ready for commercial deployment tomorrow, to sequester just 25% of yearly U.S. CO2 emissions would mean moving volumes more than twice as large as the world's current oil pipeline system can handle. That will require an enormous amount of money, and generations to build.

That an eminence like Mr. Biden is clueless about coal suggests how little official Washington has thought through the consequences of its anticarbon agenda. His blunder is also notable because it exposed the realities that politicians prefer not to voice amid an election campaign. Coal-state voters should be watching what their politicians really have planned for them come January.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Luddite]
    #8984968 - 09/25/08 03:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

That's already been posted here half a dozen times.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Ferris]
    #8984995 - 09/25/08 03:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

That article? No it hasn't. That's the first posting of it so far.





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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Ferris]
    #8985005 - 09/25/08 03:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Prove it.


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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Luddite]
    #8985049 - 09/25/08 03:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8973283#8973283

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8975653#8975653

Plus various comments, references, quotes.  Your article doesn't add anything that I see.

Sorry for being an ass, I'm just not a fan of repetition.


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    #8985090 - 09/25/08 03:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Sorry for being an ass, I'm just not a fan of repetition.




Then this forum isn't the place for you. The same few dozen topics get beat to death over and over and over again. Seriously. Bail now.





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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Ferris]
    #8985104 - 09/25/08 03:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Save yourselfahhhhhhhhhhhh.


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    #8985105 - 09/25/08 03:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Joe Biden, Imbecile [Re: Phred]
    #9177283 - 11/03/08 12:08 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Heh. I came across this a day or two ago. I had completely forgotten about this, but of course Biden is such a rich font of stupidity it's impossible for anyone with a mere mortal's memory to recall even a tiny fraction of Biden's batshit-crazy foreign policy proposals.

You all know by now what a complete disaster an Obama presidency would be, but even that unthinkable outcome pales into insignificance compared to a Biden presidency.

Here's a stroll down memory lane:

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Many believe that Barack Obama chose Joe Biden for his running mate to address a profound weakness on foreign policy.  Power Line points out an example of the Biden prowess on foreign relations that first appeared in The New Republic’s profile of Biden from October 2001.  In a vignette at the end of the article, Biden ponders mightily over how the US should respond to 9/11:

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At the Tuesday-morning meeting with committee staffers, Biden launches into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about what his committee should be doing, before he finally admits the obvious: “I’m groping here.” Then he hits on an idea: America needs to show the Arab world that we’re not bent on its destruction. “Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran,” Biden declares. He surveys the table with raised eyebrows, a How do ya like that? look on his face.

The staffers sit in silence. Finally somebody ventures a response: “I think they’d send it back.” Then another aide speaks up delicately: “The thing I would worry about is that it would almost look like a publicity stunt.” Still another reminds Biden that an Iranian delegation is in Moscow that very day to discuss a $300 million arms deal with Vladimir Putin that the United States has strongly condemned. But Joe Biden is barely listening anymore. He’s already moved on to something else.




First, Iranians aren’t Arabs.  They’re Persians, as both Arabs and Iranians would quickly point out to anyone ignorant of the distinction.  They have no relation linguistically or culturally, except that both are predominantly Islamic. One would expect a foreign-policy expert to know at least that much.  Team Obama ridiculed John McCain when he inadvertently mixed up Sunnis and Shi’ites, but this is much more fundamental.

Beyond that, what would a check for $200 million have bought us with the Iranians?  We know what it would have bought for the Iranians — more resources for the nuclear-weapons program already in progress in Tehran.  Bear in mind that this was shortly after the attacks on New York City and Washington had caused billions of dollars in damage and perhaps trillions in economic impact, not to mention the 3,000 lives that terrorists ended on that day.  If Biden wanted to spend $200 million, maybe he would have thought to spend it on Americans, and not the nation that even then was the acknowledged leader in financing terrorism around the world.

I’m sorry, but a man who thinks it appropriate to send hundreds of millions of dollars — “no strings attached” — to a terror-sponsoring regime in order to make America a supplicant of radicals is no foreign-policy genius. 




Being reminded of these things makes me once again shake my head in astonishment at the attacks those ignorant of Biden's record have made on Sarah Palin's lack of experience in foreign policy matters. Biden may have been pontificating on foreign policy for decades, but he's managed to achieve the nearly impossible -- he's been on the wrong side of every single substantive foreign policy issue he's ever involved himself in. Even a random coin toss would have outperformed Ole Slow Joe.

If the Libbies and the press (but I repeat myself) manage to drag their empty suit over the finish line Tuesday night, we better hope and pray the Secret Service is running at 110% efficiency for the next four years.



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