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McMoney
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: Redstorm]
#8967531 - 09/22/08 10:24 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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i believe "America" has more people that do not care about religion. but Christianity is the monopolizing religion in the world!
but growing up pagan. i pretty much stay out of the crazy things they do.
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Kada
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: polantis]
#8967535 - 09/22/08 10:25 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't worry, they are only christian on sundays. Thats how 95% of them are anyways.
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McMoney
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: Kada]
#8967562 - 09/22/08 10:32 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah people hold no religeous structure anymore
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AroundtheSon
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: ray40cal]
#8967753 - 09/22/08 11:23 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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ray40cal said: Well thank you. I'm christian but don't really talk about God that much.
Not a whole lot to say. It is what it is.
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: AroundtheSon]
#8967769 - 09/22/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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America's relegious percentage is wayyyyy out of the norm for such a developed country.
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AroundtheSon
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: sam420]
#8967782 - 09/22/08 11:31 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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you say that as if it's a statistical anomoly?
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sam420
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: AroundtheSon]
#8967785 - 09/22/08 11:31 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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it is
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McMoney
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: AroundtheSon]
#8967787 - 09/22/08 11:32 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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what exactly IS the norm???
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: McMoney]
#8967794 - 09/22/08 11:33 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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i posted this pretty recently but here ya go
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McMoney
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: sam420]
#8967809 - 09/22/08 11:38 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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what is this graph basses upon?
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: polantis]
#8967946 - 09/22/08 12:25 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hrmmm... I think a lot of people do use it just to say it, but I also know America is full of christians and it's hella annoying cause they seem to always push their religion on everyone/everything.
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: McMoney]
#8968025 - 09/22/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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McMoney said: what is this graph basses upon?
The source is at the bottom of the graph, however its pretty old, and the page isnt up anymore. Here is an archived copy.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070610084208/http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/faculty/zuckerman/atheism.html
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McMoney
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: nightfall8132]
#8968040 - 09/22/08 12:53 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes and they also think that if you are NOT chirstian your gonna go to hell and suffer your entire after life...
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Re: Americans seem very Christian???? [Re: McMoney]
#8968083 - 09/22/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Most people that say they are Christian really are not. If you don't tell someone you are, you get into lengthy, hell condemned conversation. For years i would say i am, just because i was raised that way. I don't believe that graph at all. 1/30 people in my city might go to church, and out of those people, half don't really care to be there. Out of the half that do care to be there, it's because they use church as a crutch, and would jump ship if they found something else that made them feel good and righteous. I have no certain numbers for my information, they are just observations.
I believe in god. Name him whatever you want, come up with stories and absurd ceremonies. All are the same, just interpreted differently. Some extremely differently, but same none the less. All are corrupted in some shape or form.
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Re: Americans seem very Christian???? [Re: Kada]
#8968110 - 09/22/08 01:05 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kada said: Most people that say they are Christian really are not. If you don't tell someone you are, you get into lengthy, hell condemned conversation. For years i would say i am, just because i was raised that way. I don't believe that graph at all. 1/30 people in my city might go to church, and out of those people, half don't really care to be there. Out of the half that do care to be there, it's because they use church as a crutch, and would jump ship if they found something else that made them feel good and righteous. I have no certain numbers for my information, they are just observations.
Christianity is not about actions, its about faith. That is where it broke off from Judaism which is all about actions, and questioning. You don't need to go to church or do anything else in order to be a christian, you only need to believe.
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: McMoney]
#8968113 - 09/22/08 01:05 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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sweden is so FUCKING PROGRESSIVE i mite move there 1 day
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Kada
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Re: Americans seem very Christian???? [Re: blewmeanie]
#8968177 - 09/22/08 01:21 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said:
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Kada said: Most people that say they are Christian really are not. If you don't tell someone you are, you get into lengthy, hell condemned conversation. For years i would say i am, just because i was raised that way. I don't believe that graph at all. 1/30 people in my city might go to church, and out of those people, half don't really care to be there. Out of the half that do care to be there, it's because they use church as a crutch, and would jump ship if they found something else that made them feel good and righteous. I have no certain numbers for my information, they are just observations.
Christianity is not about actions, its about faith. That is where it broke off from Judaism which is all about actions, and questioning. You don't need to go to church or do anything else in order to be a Christian, you only need to believe.
I was kicked out of 3 churches because of my way of thinking. I was told never to talk to anyone other than Christians, and if i did i was a sinner to. I was told that i had to cut my hair short, or i wouldn't be allowed back. A minister took me aside and told me how i was to dress every Sunday, or i wasn't welcome to return. I refused to burn my "ungodly possessions" in the campfire at a youth rally, so they made me go home. In my opinion, Christians are intolerant of anything they are not accustomed to, and would rather get rid of the problem rather than deal with it. If they can't change you, they don't want you there in my experience.
Christianity is all about faith, and thats dangerous. It's about assimilation. They are like Borg. You will be assimilated, Resistance is futile. Give us your money to build the latest bigger buildings. So we can fit more in to be assimilated. They prey on fear. Follow us, we are the true faith, all else are going to hell. That is not right. That is not what i teach my kids.
Perhaps my little city in Indiana is still a whole shit load Puritan. I just seem to find all the crazy churches. But still, any Christian i know tries to force their beliefs on me, and if i don't agree with something, they condemn me to hell. Even my own dad.
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Re: Americans seem very Christian???? [Re: Kada]
#8968430 - 09/22/08 02:14 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nut jobs for sure. I think Christianity would have been much better off if it had remained a liberal branch of Judaism.....though it may not have lasted this long.
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Kada
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Re: Americans seem very Christian???? [Re: blewmeanie]
#8968484 - 09/22/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like the people that are christians, but still smoke weed and are open to other influences other than what their church tells them. I know i come across strong when this topic comes up, so i wanna say i shouldn't group up everyone into stereotypes. It's my problem, and i try not to do it.
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Re: Americans seem very christian???? [Re: polantis]
#8968634 - 09/22/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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polantis said:
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zouden said: Yeah Americans are mega Christian, probably because they were colonised by religious extremists (the Pilgrims).
And we were colonised by petty criminals...
Good point, but wouldn't that mean we'd have a higher crime rate than US?
Ah, but parents usually don't teach their kids to be criminals, regardless of their own background.
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