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Seuss
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Ferris]
#8969171 - 09/22/08 05:46 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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> if Rupert Murdoch/Fox/whoever, didn't think his particular brand of thought was good television?
Time to nationalize television, eh?
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Ferris
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Seuss]
#8969198 - 09/22/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, but I would like to see people be educated enough to know that hacking someone's email is not "stealing merchandise," especially if that person in question is a news reporter on national television. Hell, he told an expert in the area that she was flat out wrong. And do you know what? Hundreds of thousands of people probably think the same thing now. I would like to see responsibility in the news media (not just towards those with whom I hold ideological differences). Legislation isn't the solution to this one. I, of course, am going to exercise my right to free speech, particularly when I hear stuff that is flat out wrong.
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Ferris]
#8969230 - 09/22/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Stop trying to tell people how they should act.
Pause and reflect a moment on the irony of that statement
Really, man, I espouse (let's say nearly) the least restrictive actions of (almost) anyone here.Quote:
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I mean O'Reilly and the people who are listening to him. Not the hackers. O'Reilly et al aren't hurting anyone.
I never said they shouldn't listen to him, just that I don't like them. It can't be helped. Another interesting question to reflect on, would his listeners exist, in their current form of ideology and sociological phenom, if Rupert Murdoch/Fox/whoever, didn't think his particular brand of thought was good television?
Rupert Murdoch would change his tune pretty quick if Bill didn't draw eyeballs.Quote:
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I have less respect for hackers than for a skilled safecracker. Hackers are petty vandals.
Does this opinion arise from some form of classism? I'm curious.
Not from me. I didn't know there was a class difference.
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Ferris
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: zappaisgod]
#8969255 - 09/22/08 06:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I have less respect for hackers than for a skilled safecracker. Hackers are petty vandals.
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Ferris said: Does this opinion arise from some form of classism? I'm curious.
Not from me. I didn't know there was a class difference.
The technical difference required then? I meant the question as open ended because I didn't think classism would nail the cause. Again, I'm just curious is all.
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Ferris]
#8969306 - 09/22/08 06:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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> I have less respect for hackers than for a skilled safecracker. Hackers are petty vandals.
I have a lot of respect for the people that coined the term hacker. In the early days of computing, a hacker was somebody that knew a computing system better than the people that designed it. Unfortunately, the term has changed over the years to describe a computer vandal. In its modern sense, I would tend to agree with zappa; modern day hackers are not far removed from a kid with a can of spray paint.
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Ferris
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Seuss]
#8969337 - 09/22/08 06:18 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ohoho heeheehee
I love that one
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Ferris]
#8969525 - 09/22/08 07:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I bet it's hilarious.
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Ferris]
#8969568 - 09/22/08 07:08 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ferris said: No, but I would like to see people be educated enough to know that hacking someone's email is not "stealing merchandise," especially if that person in question is a news reporter on national television. Hell, he told an expert in the area that she was flat out wrong. And do you know what? Hundreds of thousands of people probably think the same thing now. I would like to see responsibility in the news media (not just towards those with whom I hold ideological differences). Legislation isn't the solution to this one. I, of course, am going to exercise my right to free speech, particularly when I hear stuff that is flat out wrong.
No, it's not stealing merchandise. It's merely invading someone's privacy.
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#8969667 - 09/22/08 07:28 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Mushmonkey]
#8970522 - 09/22/08 10:34 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushmonkey said: SHHHHH. We know that. That's irrelevant. The important part is he's made it clear there's an extreme level of intolerance for different ideas in these "christian extremist hackers" -- and that he's showing the same level of intolerance (as is anyone else coming out in support or laughing about this hack).
No, you can laugh at something without supporting the entirety of it.
Laughter or amusement or intrigue or entertainment does not equal endorsement.
You can also be glad something happened without thinking that it was moral for it to happen.
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: johnm214]
#8970577 - 09/22/08 10:46 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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all this hacking and Ddossing and such seems like its becoming more and more popular, are we going to start seeing full fledged cyberwars?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7596676.stm
The summer saw a surge in the number of hijacked home PCs or "zombies", say security experts.
The Shadowserver Foundation, which tracks zombie numbers worldwide, said it had seen at least a threefold increase in the last three months.
More than 450,000 computers are now part of zombie networks, or botnets, run by hi-tech criminals, it said. The rise is believed to be linked to attacks that booby-trap websites to try to infect the machines of visitors.
Attack vector Criminals are keen to recruit new machines to a botnet to create a resource that they can use or which can be hired out to other gangs.
Most spam or junk mail is routed through the hijacked machines forming a botnet. The collection of PCs are often used to launch attacks on other websites, as anonymous stores for stolen data and to help with phishing scams. The vast majority of machines in these botnets will be PCs running a version of Microsoft Windows.
In June 2008 Shadowserver Foundation knew about more than 100,000 machines that were part of a botnet. By the end of August this figure had exceeded 450,000 machines. The Shadowserver Foundation is a group of security professionals who volunteer their time to track and measure botnets to help law enforcement investigations.
The rise in numbers has been accompanied by a fall in the number of so-called command and control (C&C) servers tracked by the Shadowserver group suggesting that hi-tech criminals are concentrating their resources. As their name implies, the C&C servers co-ordinate the use of all the machines linked to them.
The jump in individual zombie numbers is linked to a series of wide-spread attacks that inject malicious code on to legitimate websites that tries to compromise any visiting machine.
In recent months many hi-tech criminals have turned to web attacks to recruit new victims rather than rely on sending viruses out via e-mail. Typically, a machine is compromised via a vulnerability in one of the programs it runs. Inside this initial attack program will be code that directs it to contact a C&C server which then downloads software to put it completely under the control of a botmaster.
The machines in any individual botnet can be spread across many different nations.
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#8970648 - 09/22/08 11:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here is the kind of shenanigans /b/ usually pulls. I personally find things like this one funny as hell.
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: pinkfloydms]
#8970766 - 09/22/08 11:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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WHAT?! NINE THOUSAND!??!?!?!?!!!?!
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#8970805 - 09/22/08 11:36 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are getting pretty good at trolling the media.
Who would have thought they could get Oprah to say their little motto -
* Anonymous is Legion.
* Anonymous does not forgive.
* Anonymous does not forget.
* Expect us.
and then say over 9000 penises.
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Re: FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked [Re: pinkfloydms]
#8970815 - 09/22/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anonymous are my hero.
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
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