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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: llib]
    #898493 - 09/21/02 11:48 PM (19 years, 11 days ago)

or if you know you experinced something and the skeptic has not experienced such, how DO you prove it.

(I am intuiting that this is actually a question.) This is another glaring fallacy. True skeptics only care about experiences that are claimed to be REPEATABLE, not someone's inner state or random experience.

All of my challenges have come after definitive statements such as "I can move a pencil with my mind." or "The Twelfth Planet will arrive in August 2003."



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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: llib]
    #898501 - 09/21/02 11:52 PM (19 years, 11 days ago)

so how can one "prove" anything? how can one kno wthe "truth"?

A loaded question. :wink: Exploration is the hallmark of a human.  You may not know all the answers, proofs, or truths. But someone will in a couple of decades, centuries, aeons.  You set the groundwork for the next generations to come.

I wouldn't mind having 3-4 lifetimes in this life to explore all facets of science I'm interested.  And mysticism.

But who has that time to do it all and know truth? ;P


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: llib]
    #898514 - 09/21/02 11:59 PM (19 years, 11 days ago)

The base of "proving" something really doeasnt exist in science.

So my computer doesn't work because electron flow is an unproven theory and my car doesn't run because the theory of thermodynamics is b.s...?

Your example about medicine is off the mark because there are far more uncontrolled or unknown variables there than in almost any other scientific research.

Psychic phenomenon is not accepted by rationalists, not because of clever wording and hyperbole from believers, but because IT CANNOT BE DEMONSTRATED!

I know this is a tough statement to grasp.



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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #898592 - 09/22/02 12:45 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

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well, I am from the south, after all. I'm supposed to use archaic/demeaning references to race




thats it...justify your ignorance.


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Swami]
    #898596 - 09/22/02 12:48 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

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Enough already. Where do you come up with this shit? You heard it somewhere and you take it as gospel? This is a TOTAL falsehood.





Indulge me Swami. what EXACT percentage of the brain does the average human being use?


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: thePatient]
    #898625 - 09/22/02 01:05 AM (19 years, 10 days ago)

100%. How many cyclinders does your car use? All of them, but not all at the same time.

Are you indulged now?


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: thePatient]
    #898969 - 09/22/02 11:24 AM (19 years, 10 days ago)

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thats it...justify your ignorance.




Good job being too dense to understand sarcasm.


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Calen]
    #898974 - 09/22/02 11:28 AM (19 years, 10 days ago)

calen, some of your statements don't even make sense and fail to refute in any way the points I and others have made, so, seeya.


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #899022 - 09/22/02 12:02 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

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Good job being too dense to understand sarcasm.




I understood your sarcasm. I just believe there is some truth behind your facetiousness. Dense? maybe, but not in this instance.


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: thePatient]
    #899031 - 09/22/02 12:07 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

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I understood your sarcasm. I just believe there is some truth behind your facetiousness. Dense? maybe, but not in this instance




then how do you justify calling me "ignorant" because of a quite blatant joke?


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Swami]
    #899036 - 09/22/02 12:11 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

hmm, never heard that before, please tell me where you got this info from, im very intrigued.


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #899055 - 09/22/02 12:22 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

it was a combination of calling your bus driver "negro" (not a joke), and your blantant joke. Sorry if ive offended you. This is just my perception. I will argue this no more.


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: CleverName]
    #899066 - 09/22/02 12:31 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

Where do I get this from? Very simple. EVERY SINGLE NEURON in your brains fires some of the time, hence you use all of your brain. Does anyone really think that 90% of our neurons are duds that just sputter? Does that make any sense at all?

I have printed this here at least a dozen times. It is impossible for all your neurons to fire at once (hence the popular myth) just like it is impossible for your bicep and tricep to contract at the same time. But this does not mean that you only use 50% of your arm.



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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Swami]
    #899070 - 09/22/02 12:34 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

yes, i undestood what you meant from the start, i was just wondering where you came up with this info.
my dr told me the other way though, thats why i was wondering, oh wise one, about your information, which seems to be nothing more than self-learned, sorry, im sticking to the professionals on this one


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Swami]
    #899077 - 09/22/02 12:39 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

It is impossible for all your neurons to fire at once

How can you be 100% sure of that? Who is to say that we might not evolve to be able to use most parts of our brains simultaneously??


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Adamist]
    #899083 - 09/22/02 12:41 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

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How can you be 100% sure of that? Who is to say that we might not evolve to be able to use most parts of our brains simultaneously?? 




when all your neurons are firing at once I believe  that would be considered an epileptic seizure  :smirk:


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Adamist]
    #899089 - 09/22/02 12:47 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

Because I am the Swami.

A huge number of neurons firing is called a seizure. Why do so many have trouble with basic science? What would happen if all cylinders in your car fired at once? It would throw a rod or break the crank. If all transistors in your computer fired at once NO INFORMATION would be passed.

It is in the nature of the design for some things to work SEQUENTIALLY. Try talking to someone speaking every single word that you know simultaneously (if it were possible). Information transfer would be ZERO.

MRIs have show that every area of the brain is used. PERIOD. There are no mysterious latent sections.

Is our education system failing that badly?



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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Swami]
    #899092 - 09/22/02 12:50 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

ha, yes in fact it is


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Swami]
    #899095 - 09/22/02 12:51 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

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Is our education system failing that badly?




yep  :frown:


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Re: "Sometimes truth defies reason" [Re: Swami]
    #899264 - 09/22/02 02:43 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

Try talking to someone speaking every single word that you know simultaneously (if it were possible).

I have. I transcended the use of words to express my thought, all thought was shared between myself and another person, it was a pure awareness shared between both of us.

No, I can't prove that to you.


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