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Pan species' in Ontario
    #895510 - 09/20/02 10:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys. I found a few mushrooms yesterday morning that reminded me of Pan Subs. I took a few specimens inside to take a print and pictures but I ended up not getting the camera. They were dried when I came home today. But luckily, it rained last night and more popped up. I should be able to get the digicam tonight.

Anyway, could someone tell me if these match a few Pans (or species like it) that grow in Ontario. I'll describe them as best I can:

-small
-rounded cap (a few have flat caps, these look old)
-cap is light brown/beige (starts out brown at the top, and gets lighter as the cap widens. Some have a strip of brown on the bottom but not many)
-stems are all hollow but only some are thick.
-dark gills, give a very dark black/brown sporeprint.
-very little bruising, some stems turn a bit purple but not very much.

I looked around for info, but most of it is conflicting. Thanks for your help.


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Re: Pan species' in Ontario [Re: FatSean]
    #895576 - 09/20/02 11:25 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Pan species' in Ontario [Re: ]
    #895632 - 09/20/02 11:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I forgot to mention that I found the mushrooms on my recently sodded lawn.

Thanks Mr_Mushrooms. I'm working on getting the camera now.

I still have a couple questions though. Do both those species usually grow together? The reason I wrote (in my other post) that they gave black/brown sporeprints is because some give very dark black prints, but some are lighter brownish. Could I have a mix? BTW, I thought foenisecii had pointed caps?

Also, are they supposed to bruise heavily? There is little bruising on these, and its mostly purple. Is that ok?


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Re: Pan species' in Ontario [Re: FatSean]
    #895926 - 09/20/02 03:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The ones with the conical caps are Pan sphinctrinus, not active. And yes, it is possible that you have a mixed collection.


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Re: Pan species' in Ontario [Re: Gumby]
    #895966 - 09/20/02 03:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Shit, I can't find the camera. I have a scanner, but I lost the stupid 10.5V adapter for it, and all I can find is 9V and that won't work. Shitty luck.

So what should I do? They look a lot like Pans. Are there any species' that fit my description but are poisonous? Should I try a small amount?

If I can get these questions answered, I will be certain that I have Pans on my hands.

1. Do pans bruise? If so what colour? How prominent is the bruising?
2. My mushrooms are smaller than the pics i've seen of Pans. Does that matter? My biggest specimen is only about 2in tall, and with a 2cm diameter rounded cap.

I'm gonna keep trying to get pics, to get a firm ID.


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Re: Pan species' in Ontario [Re: ]
    #896215 - 09/20/02 11:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Conocybe filaris has a pointed cap and brown spores.




I've mentioned a few times that the mushrooms I found were round at the top, and have very dark (black) spores. Any other look a likes? I should be able to get pics up soon.


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Re: Pan species' in Ontario [Re: ]
    #896228 - 09/20/02 11:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Pans can bruis when mishandled as almost any mushroom can.

They bruise various colors but mostly darker than the flesh was and the same color which is normally brown.





Yeah, they do bruise brown.

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They come in different sizes. This is nothing unusual.





Ok. I think they are small because they just popped up this morning...

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I suggest you but a reputable field guide like Mushrooms Demystified by David Arora before you hurt yourself. They cost a lot less than one stomach pumping. It is unwise to depend on our word alone if you intend on eating them. Mushrooms can be wonderful but they can also be deadly.





Yeah, I'll check out the library. It's raining right now, so I wanna have them IDed before more pop up. BTW, Canada = free health care. lol.


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Re: Pan species' in Ontario [Re: ]
    #915031 - 09/28/02 04:17 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

RE: "Pans can bruis when mishandled as almost any mushroom can.

They bruise various colors but mostly darker than the flesh was and the same color which is normally brown."


Ok, I'm not the best hunter out there... in fact I havent done a lot of it at all..... Perhaps you can clarify this for me... I understood that Pans had to bruise blue, in fact I have threw away MANY that otherwised looked like Pans- cept they bruised a pinkish/red color- yet still had jet black spores.

Anyone know of any active pans bruising pink or red and still have jet black spores?

It's like a gold mine of mushrooms right now in this state. After many days of rain due to a tropical storm that was in the gulf, we now have dozens of varities of mushrooms scattered thru out this area! :grin: 


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