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Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming?
    #8954059 - 09/19/08 09:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I think I've come to a point in my life where I've become a little infatuated with escaping reality.  So much to the point where it is starting to interfere with my real life.  I mean, when I'm dreaming and sleeping... they hold priority over real life events and importance.

A couple months ago I quit a job that at one point had me going down a career path I had prepared several years four, but with experience discovered it was not what I wanted anymore.  So, after quitting I found I would like to work my ass off this whole year and then coming this next summer would like to travel to Alaska for a month or so to visit some family, and then to either Hawaii or Australia/New Zealand to live for a year.

Well, since I quit my last job I've yet to be able to get a call back for an interview (Until yesterday) after applying to over 20+ jobs that I would be suited for.  And I've also fallen into a stupor with such said depression, a lack of money, and an abundance of time...

For example, wednesday night I could not sleep until 10 AM in the morning(9pm to 3-4 am seem to be my most productive time of the day though), caught 2 hours of sleep, then at 2 PM I wanted to fall asleep for a couple hours so that I could wake and go to a coffee shop with my girlfriend around 6 pm.  However, come 4:15 when my alarm went off, I shut if off to go back to sleep, and again an hour later, and again an hour later.  Totally blowing off my girlfriend, and her friends that were waiting for me.

Most morning's, I'll set myself to get up so I can take care of some sort of appointment I've set for myself, or the time restraints I've been trying to put on myself, and I'll most always 90% blow through them and instead sleep on.

See what is difficult for me is that the state of mind that I find myself in while waking is hard do anything not concerning sleep.  My dreams are very intense, so intense that when I'm forcefully awakened by someone (not usually something, I'll find a way to turn it off and go right back to sleep without even thinking about it) for 20-30 minutes I'll be out of it.  I'll still feel like I'm in the dream, and I can't think, I then become mixed on what is real and what is not.  More times than I can count, my girlfriend will wake to go to work, wake me up, tell me things, or say nothing at all, and I will think things are happening that are not.  I'll imagine her saying something, I'll open my eyes and she is there doing something, and then I'll close my eyes and imagine the same thing, with the same intensity but... it FEELS so much better.  Almost to the point of a slight pseudo body high.  After after sleeping 6 or 7 hours with her, I'll continue to sleep 7-9 more hours when I SHOULD be getting up with her.  As soon as she leaves, I can't help myself.

My dreams, actually give me a huge sense of reward, and a sense of living.  I'll be approached with issues, or problems, or just fantasies in my dreams that feel so much more promising and important than reality, but only while I'm in them.  See, I can't recall any of my dreams, except for the feeling that they give me.  But I KNOW that they're very intense and real.  And I'll only barely grasp them when being aroused mid sleep.

Again what is difficult now is that, in my waking state I can't control myself, all I want to do is stay in that dream, stay asleep, it feels so much more real and important at that time.  But once my body can't forcefully stay asleep anymore and I actually wake up (which can take 45 min to an hour before I'm functunal)
I don't remember a thing that happened.

It is quite normal now for me to sleep 16-18 hour days.  And as much as I try to set alarms for myself, and have people wake me.  While still in that waking state I can't control or make myself stay awake.  Someone will wake me, and 30 minutes later I'll find a way to ly back down.  If an important alarm goes off I'll turn it off completely and go right back into the blissful dream I'm experiencing. 

Has anyone else had this problem?

Some thing's to note, that I do find very interesting is that I have experienced DMT 10+ times (not within 3 weeks) about 5-6 weeks ago.  And since my first breakthrough, my dreams became much more intense and have remained so.  Has anyone else had this phenomena after first experiencing DMT?

And while mentioning DMT, it seems to have shattered my world.  Much like shrooms did on my first time.  It has really opened my eyes and destroyed my ego.  Which I don't feel is a bad thing, but now my motivation for normal life in society has been lessened.  With what I know now, and feel.  The normal rat race of life and work habits seem pointless and unimportant except to feed my belly and put a roof over my head...  I used to be a very monetarily driven person.  Which in itself hurt a lot of my relationships, and now I'm the complete opposite... personally more happy and fulfilled, but faced with this current dream/motivation block.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: shroomzey]
    #8954108 - 09/19/08 10:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like a sort of sleep disorder.  Preferring the sleep/dreaming state over waking life can also be a symptom of depression.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: deCypher]
    #8954339 - 09/19/08 11:23 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Wow...all I can say is force yourself to get more involved in the real world. You clearly see this excessive sleeping as a problem (and I would agree with you that it is a problem), so show some will-power and force yourself to start doing shit. I would imagine that as soon as you start to take life seriously things will start to regain some meaning for you.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: wedaft]
    #8954417 - 09/19/08 11:41 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

That the thing, the dreams are more interesting than real life.  It's not like I have any disdain for living.  I enjoy it.  Just not as much as dreaming.

You would think the answer is to make my life more interesting, and while I'm awake I do.  I have goals and activities, a wonderful woman, friends, which is the basis for a healthy life but...

It still seems null compared to this waking status I get trapped in...


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: shroomzey]
    #8954787 - 09/19/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Solution: make your waking life more exciting.  Maybe pick up a skydiving habit?


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: shroomzey]
    #11933594 - 01/31/10 01:32 AM (14 years, 10 minutes ago)

I found this thread from a google search about being addicted to sleep. I know this is an old thread and all, but I was hoping you would be able to help.

You described exactly what I am going through. I'd also like to include that as the day progresses I plan more, become more hopeful, get more energy... but then I sleep and don't want to wake up. The night before I am excited about the things I will do tomorrow, but when my alarm goes off I hit snooze or turn it off b/c sleeping seems so important in that moment. A friend of mine is also going through the same thing and neither of us have been able to motivate ourselves or each other out of it.

Have you overcome your sleep addiction? What helped you do it? Did something change in your life?


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: theLola]
    #11934941 - 01/31/10 10:52 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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theLola said:
I found this thread from a google search about being addicted to sleep. I know this is an old thread and all, but I was hoping you would be able to help.

You described exactly what I am going through. I'd also like to include that as the day progresses I plan more, become more hopeful, get more energy... but then I sleep and don't want to wake up. The night before I am excited about the things I will do tomorrow, but when my alarm goes off I hit snooze or turn it off b/c sleeping seems so important in that moment. A friend of mine is also going through the same thing and neither of us have been able to motivate ourselves or each other out of it.

Have you overcome your sleep addiction? What helped you do it? Did something change in your life?




Weird. At first I thought I had symptoms in common with the OP, now I see I have more similar symptoms with you. It seems to be getting better for me since I've established a pretty steady schedule for going to sleep and waking up. A lot of times it seems like I have the most energy late in the day, often times right before I go to sleep. I fall asleep thinking about how productive I'm  going to be once I wake up. The alarm goes off and I press snooze, alarm; snooze, alarm; snooze, etc. for hours sometimes. If I don't have class, work or some other important obligation I will often find it almost impossible to get out of bed.

I will admit though that I've been kind of out of it and probably depressed for the past few months, so that probably has something to do with it. The thing about that, is it's a self-reinforcing chain of events. You have a crappy sleep pattern so you have no motivation the next day; time goes on and you start getting behind on your life duties - depression sets in; depression makes your sleep pattern worse so you get less done the next day, etc.

My advice would be to go to bed at the same time every night and wake up after 7.5-8.5 hours. If you get more, you won't be tired enough to go to sleep at that same time the next day.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #11938886 - 01/31/10 10:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You are very right about it being a self-reinforcing chain of events. Very hard to break.

I think it's hard for me to identify this as depression b/c it's different than the depression I had growing up. Back then it was dark, devastating, and painful. Now I feel okay for the most part, but I don't really feel like seeing people, going anywhere, etc.

Some nights I go to bed at a decent hour, set my alarm for 7 or 8 hours from when I lay down, and psych myself up for the next day. It's the moment of waking that I lose my hopefulness, desires, and excitement about the day- and nothing I tell myself is more powerful than wanting to go back to dreaming.

I know a big change would snap me back into a healthy lifestyle- but I feel that my current responsibilities and obligations are too great for me to do what I would really love to do. If I leave the place I've never liked and always felt stuck for the place I really long to be, I know I'd let too many people here down and/or create too many problems for others. I don't want them to clean up my mess, but I don't have the energy and motivation to fix every thing I need to fix.

blah. I guess that's really my issue in a nutshell. O_o

Family Guy said it best: "I'd be more apathetic if I weren't so lethargic."


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: theLola]
    #11942155 - 02/01/10 01:51 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I think it's hard for me to identify this as depression b/c it's different than the depression I had growing up. Back then it was dark, devastating, and painful. Now I feel okay for the most part, but I don't really feel like seeing people, going anywhere, etc.

Some nights I go to bed at a decent hour, set my alarm for 7 or 8 hours from when I lay down, and psych myself up for the next day. It's the moment of waking that I lose my hopefulness, desires, and excitement about the day- and nothing I tell myself is more powerful than wanting to go back to dreaming.

I know a big change would snap me back into a healthy lifestyle- but I feel that my current responsibilities and obligations are too great for me to do what I would really love to do. If I leave the place I've never liked and always felt stuck for the place I really long to be, I know I'd let too many people here down and/or create too many problems for others. I don't want them to clean up my mess, but I don't have the energy and motivation to fix every thing I need to fix.

blah. I guess that's really my issue in a nutshell. O_o

Family Guy said it best: "I'd be more apathetic if I weren't so lethargic."





I have the same problem... I usually feel most motivated late night.  It could be that I am a night time person tho. but i am trying to work on this...


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: skatealex2]
    #11943536 - 02/01/10 05:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I've been feeling like this as well. I usually don't dream, but lately I have been having the most intense and exciting dreams. I had several astral and lucid dreams last night! Very amazing stuff. But I have been depressed lately, and I find sleeping and dreaming to be more enjoyable when I'm depressed, and depression for me seems to induce more vivid and better dreams. This reminds me of the Lovecraft story "Celephaïs".


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: Pandorok]
    #11946419 - 02/02/10 06:30 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Awesome thread... really resonates with me. In fact, I'm going to bed right now. Thanks shroomery!

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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: ozsultan]
    #11961084 - 02/04/10 11:20 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Oddly enough (even though I rarely stop by here anymore) I've had a lot of private messages from people regarding this thread and how and/or if I have been able to deal with this problem.  I don't have the time to give a full reply at the moment, but I will in the near future.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: shroomzey]
    #11963087 - 02/04/10 04:51 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Pretty cool that you came back to such an old thread.  I'd personally love to hear your insight on the sleep addiction matter.

One of my closest friends sleeps anywhere between 12-22 hours regularly.  He's almost missed entire days of life because he simply spent them in bed only waking to piss.

There certainly has to be a deep-rooted psychological or physiological reason behind it all, eh?


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: shroomzey]
    #11965241 - 02/04/10 10:04 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm, so things have been changing since I last posted in this thread. I am getting better at waking up in the morning and going to sleep at night. I think it's helping majorly that I go to bed at just about the same time every night and I sleep around 8 hours.

As far as sleeping late goes and the addiction to dreaming, I used to do this because I could fantasize about things that weren't reasonably attainable in my life and it would give me a chance to have a lucid dream (which I have an interest in). Lately, though, I've been more...hmm, grounded, or realistic, I guess? I'm more focused and if I want something, something that I could just sit in my comfy bed and fantasize about, I should get the hell up and try and make it happen! Other cool things are bound to happen along the way, so who really cares.

I think a lot of it comes down to our primitive brain functions that moves us toward things we see as good (or better, as in relativity) and away from things that are lesser or bad. If we see waking life as being dull and dream life/ sleep as a comfortable, problem free existence, well it's no wonder we would want to stay in bed. Ya dig?


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #11966576 - 02/05/10 03:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I slip in and out of it.
Im bipolar, but in my depressive state I sleep alot, maybe 10-16 hours a day and I have crazy vivid and lucid dreams that seem better than my current predicament in reality.

They are more fantasy like, all of that unfulfilled stuff that is just vacant from my life.

In the manic state I stay up for a couple days so I realize how both extremes are.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11968455 - 02/05/10 11:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

If you want some real dreams try some chantix.That shit was crazy,but the suicide thoughts side effects sucked.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: Railrider]
    #12068880 - 02/20/10 11:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I think the most important things I've been able to do that has helped me with this problem...

Making sure you have something important to do early in the morning.  And by important, I mean important to you.  Whether that means something you enjoy, something that is productive, something related to a passion you have. 

1. You'll feel happier by enjoying this reward.
2. It gets you up and awake to then follow through with important tasks.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: shroomzey]
    #12075820 - 02/22/10 08:34 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

interesting thread. im really into my dreams, and for some reason i remember them more than real things. for a year when i was eighteen i had a lot of trouble telling the difference between dream memories and real memories. it's a powerful thing, to dream.


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Re: Addicted To Sleep And Dreaming? [Re: shroomzey]
    #14828045 - 07/26/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I have discovered the most profound truth when i read your entry titled "Addicted to Sleep" which i found more relevant to anything found across the World Wide Web. This topic speaks to me mostly because i found myself sleeping more hours during the day when my unconsciousness is wide open. I asked myself why do i sleep while others are on their natural work grind getting things done? Why do i sleep myself in to these 12 - 14 hour sleeps without accomplishing anything? At this particular moment i have been enlightened. At this moment i believe learning from your unconsciousness moments are truly genuine. Experiences full of self and not contaminated with any outsourced conditioning that can dilute the intense experience you witness as you sleep. The society today is a game in which people are caught in a ocean wave of (how can i say it) manipulation of powerful influences.
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