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8 days fruiting still only 2 inch(pic)
    #8943938 - 09/17/08 12:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

wtf 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch's and only as thick as a cigarette

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944015 - 09/17/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

how about some specs?  your not going to get any answers with that post.

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944022 - 09/17/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Dude i have the same problem i have a lot of pins but they are 1 1/2 inch heigh and fruiting already 6 days. What strain are you growing ? I suggest you look at Robanero's  post "My little hawaiians" here is the link http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8678000#Post8678000
Hope i helped. Have a nice day

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: blood4blood]
    #8944029 - 09/17/08 12:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

mycobag in the bag 75'degrees b+ from sporeworks


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: sashimi]
    #8944040 - 09/17/08 12:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Dude i have the same problem i have a lot of pins but they are 1 1/2 inch heigh and fruiting already 6 days. What strain are you growing ? I suggest you look at Robanero's  post "My little hawaiians" here is the link http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8678000#Post8678000
Hope i helped. Have a nice day




i wish i could relate to that


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944057 - 09/17/08 12:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Make sure that they are getting plenty of air exchange.
Open the cover or whatever and fan them 5X a day.
Put a florecent (sp>) next to them 16 hours a day.
That's all I got.

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: Mr.Al]
    #8944070 - 09/17/08 12:34 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i burp the bags everyday and give them 12hr of light


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944111 - 09/17/08 12:42 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

But you need to fan them.  Like, take a plastic tote lid or equivalent and fan them mannnn.

5 times a day.

Besides that all I can think of is humidification...

Pics??

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: Mr.Al]
    #8944130 - 09/17/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944193 - 09/17/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Cakes then I take it?

I've only used bulk substrates.

Make sure you have sufficient humidification.

Mushies are mostly water. 

Don't spray with a water bottle though.

Use a humidification device.

Also, please fan several times a day.

Fresh air exchange, light, and humidification.

If you need a recommendation for a bulk substrate supplier try highmountaincompost.  Spawned rye to it (about 1 pound spawn to 5 pounds compost 4.5 inches thick) and it was fully colonized & knotting like crazy on day 7 after spawn.

Good luck friend.
Try bulk substrates.

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: Mr.Al]
    #8944250 - 09/17/08 01:19 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Try bulk substrates.



i plan to next time i wanted to get my feet wet with these mycobags just fruiting in the bag


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944263 - 09/17/08 01:24 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yea i dont know shit about mycobags otherwise id help ya.  i never thought they were very effient. i tried them once about a year ago and was not pleased with the results.
but yea grains spawned to some good sub and put into a monotub =


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: blood4blood]
    #8944279 - 09/17/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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yea i dont know shit about mycobags otherwise id help ya.  i never thought they were very effient. i tried them once about a year ago and was not pleased with the results.
but yea grains spawned to some good sub and put into a monotub =






how much cash goes into caseing in one monotub no bells and wistles just the basics


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944327 - 09/17/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

10-12$ for the tub
3-4$ for polyfill
manure/straw  free
3-4$ for rye

youll also need jars, a pressure cooker and a few other things but as long as your self suffient like using your own prints and stuff you really only need to buy rye and the occasinal other few ingredients

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: blood4blood]
    #8944342 - 09/17/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

dry substate and lack of humidity are the main reasons for small shrooms.

Why shouldnt you mist a mycobag?? I dont see why not. We mist cakes and casings so why not bags.

Mist before fanning.


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: veda_sticks]
    #8944357 - 09/17/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

too late i fanned it it looks really wet in there the sides of the bag have big drops of h20 rolling down the sides. it would probly puddle if i misted it for 2 or 3 days


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944360 - 09/17/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

id be happy if they were thicker


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944394 - 09/17/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I think you are safe to spray cakes if they are covered in vermiculite. That acts as a casing for them. From my (very) limited experience undeveloped mushrooms are coming from : lack of nutrients, lack of water , or lack of oxigen. Since i don't think the first one is a problem to you i sugest misting the cakes from a nice distance so only finer water particles reach them and making sure they get oxygen. I let my cased grains have air around 2 or 3 times per day and they seemed to be doing just fine. Good luck and when you start doing the right thing you should see signs of growth within the next day in my experience . HOpe this helped :smile:

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: omu_negru]
    #8944412 - 09/17/08 02:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

they are growing taller kinda fast in the past few days but not any thicker


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944430 - 09/17/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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they are growing taller kinda fast in the past few days but not any thicker





What is your humidity at? Did you dunk your cakes?


I had the same problems with my first few grows then I dunked all my cakes and rolled them in fine grade vermiculite. The difference in size and flush amount was absolutely stunning! They need water! and fresh air!


I went from 2-4in. mushrooms to 6-10in. mushrooms just by dunking and rolling alone. Also, much thicker :>

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: Jeets]
    #8944453 - 09/17/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i just inc. the bag put in a warm place and exposed to light when all white then let out c02 and let in air


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944552 - 09/17/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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i just inc. the bag put in a warm place and exposed to light when all white then let out c02 and let in air





Well I am not too familiar with mycobags, but if I am not mistaken dont you take them out of the bag to fruit once fully colonized? I do see why you wouldn't be able to dunk them. But anyway, this could be your problem if you are getting small and thin fruits. Seems like there was not enough hydration and/or humidification.

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: Jeets]
    #8944576 - 09/17/08 02:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

All you can do is fan and mist.  After they flush might as well dunk the stuff and put into trays, plus a terrarium. Dunno bout bags n such seems retarded to me. A big tote that can fit 50 cakes only costs 7 dollars.


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: ray40cal]
    #8944594 - 09/17/08 02:41 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with raycal you should crumble your cake to a big casing! :laugh:


do the 50/50+ tek ;DD

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: Jeets]
    #8944921 - 09/17/08 04:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

so its cool to crumble into a casing after 1st flush


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8944958 - 09/17/08 04:06 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

huh no i didn't know that was a cake, thought u were using mycobags?    There's really no benifit to crumbling and casing cakes when you can just dunk and roll. Still the same amount of substrate = same amount of shrooms, just casing gives it a healthy microclimate and lots of needed water, but so does dunk/roll. Same concept, different shape.

Something i've done, and liked with cakes is after 2nd flush crumble it and spawn it to coir. I did that to 2 1/4 pint cakes, which = 1 regular sized cake, and the right picture in the sig is what came of it.  About a half. 12 grams or something dry.


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: ray40cal]
    #8945000 - 09/17/08 04:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

it is in a mycobag


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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: nonwo]
    #8947542 - 09/18/08 12:55 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

your doing cakes in a mycobag?

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: blood4blood]
    #8948103 - 09/18/08 06:26 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 8 days fruiting still only 2 inch [Re: veda_sticks]
    #8948377 - 09/18/08 09:09 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

just the reg. mycobag from sporeworks ryeberry


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