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 Some help with my Psychotria viridis 
#8942602 - 09/17/08 03:31 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I've got a relatively young/small Psychotria viridis.
Lately the leaves have started to look like they're dying, like in this picture:
I'm not sure why this is, so I was hoping you guys could tell me what I'm doing wrong. My friend thinks I'm over-watering it. I water it daily, but only a small amount, and mist it throughout the day.
Thanks guys!
Oh, here's a picture of the beautiful pot my friend painted for me.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: skin_]
#8942764 - 09/17/08 04:57 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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are you misting with tap water?
in that second pic it seems that there is some build up of salts or something on the leaves, that could be a problem...
over watering could also be an issue, i suggest that you let the soil dry out between waterings and then give it a good soaking.
are you giving it any nutrients? the yellow leaves would be a sign of not enough nutrients.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#8942915 - 09/17/08 06:05 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, thanks heaps for those tips. I've never grown any plants before, but I'm really interested in starting. I'm just misting with tap-water, I take it that's a no?
I haven't been giving it any nutrients, what would you recommend? Thanks for your help. I hope she grows up nice and strong.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: skin_]
#8942964 - 09/17/08 06:29 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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tap water is ok for an occasional misting, but if you are misting it every day then the solids suspended in the water can build up on the leaves causing them to brown...
perhaps distilled water or rain water would be better...
not really sure what type of nutrient this plant likes as i have never grown it before, however i should think that any generic plant fertilizer would be fine, miracle grow for example.
someone else with experience will confirm, there are a few people around here who grow it 
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#8943090 - 09/17/08 07:33 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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It looks like it needs more rootspace and fresh potting soil. Also they don't need misting at all.
The leaves look physically damaged also. Maybe from transporting??
And check the underside of the leaves for mites. Bugs love Phsychotria.
Heres a pic of mine...
Edited by cpw1971 (09/17/08 08:08 AM)
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: cpw1971]
#8943998 - 09/17/08 12:19 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with uare, they need ferts and they do not need misting unless perhaps you are in the desert. Even if you were in the desert, you could just put a dome over them. Misting leads to mold. My psychotria are taller than I am and grow outside. They do not like freezing though.
Use a complete fert like peter's 20 20 20. Don't fert all the time, give them a dose now and wait and see. Let the soil dry out completely before watering again.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: skin_]
#8944705 - 09/17/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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The problem is that it is totally underpotted.
This one is REAL viridis so it does grow very slowly compared to other psychotrias.
BTW CPW´s are P. alba.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: felixhigh]
#8944981 - 09/17/08 04:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are Alba's?? How can you tell??
Mine are a few years old.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: cpw1971]
#8945051 - 09/17/08 04:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alba has wavy margins, viridis doesnt.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: felixhigh]
#8945097 - 09/17/08 04:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies guys. So I should re-pot my plant into a bigger pot and stop misting every day - then see what happens?
I'll try and get it done tonight. Thanks for the help, I'll let you know how it goes. 
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: Stonehenge]
#8945585 - 09/17/08 06:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Stonehenge said:
My psychotria are taller than I am and grow outside. They do not like freezing though.
any pics?
all the pics i ever see of this plant are tiny house plants, i'd like to see it in all its glory!
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: Equinox]
#8945834 - 09/17/08 06:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah I wanna see some too  I wish mine were that big.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: skin_]
#8947428 - 09/18/08 12:24 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
skin_ said:
Thanks for the replies guys. So I should re-pot my plant into a bigger pot and stop misting every day - then see what happens?
yup. and don't worry about giving ferts right now if you are putting it into fresh soil...
the fresh soil should have enough nutrient to keep it happy for at least a couple of months, if you notice any yellowing of the leaves later on then you should consider feeding it
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#8947611 - 09/18/08 01:14 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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You guys are great. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: cpw1971]
#8948006 - 09/18/08 05:12 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
cpw1971 said:
They are Alba's?? How can you tell??
Mine are a few years old.
I thought mine were P.viridis too, until felix corrected my ass :/ 
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: Knoa6]
#8948022 - 09/18/08 05:27 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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seems like a common misidentification, someone has been passing p.alba off as p.viridis obviously
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#8948375 - 09/18/08 09:09 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe mine were Alba after all. I had some Viridis seeds sent to me through another forum but they were still in the fruits and they rotted in a plastic bag 
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: cpw1971]
#8949219 - 09/18/08 12:31 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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The seeds are quite solid, if the flesh of the fruit is rotting you just plant it all and it should germinate anyways.
I´ve seen loads of Albas being sold as viridis in a famous auction site.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: felixhigh]
#8950083 - 09/18/08 03:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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My psychotrias have been positively ID'd as viridis and I got them from a reputable vendor. However, on occasion the leaf margins will appear wavy. This could be due to growing conditions or other factors so I would not tout that as a fool proof method of differentiating them. If most or all leaves looked that way, then perhaps.
I will take a pic of my pv bushes which are fast becoming trees. Not sure when I'll get it done.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: Stonehenge]
#8950409 - 09/18/08 04:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey stoney, nice to see you around friend!
There is also Psychotria carthaginensis which is something between viridis and alba. And which is very active, tested by myself.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: felixhigh]
#8950554 - 09/18/08 05:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah thats what it is I think 
But yeah Stonehenge is right. When they were indoors in the cold with no humidity the leaves were very very wrinkley and ugly looking. I am sure if I were in a tropical climate they would be even smoother.
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Re: Some help with my Psychotria viridis [Re: cpw1971]
#8950886 - 09/18/08 06:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Another detail - true viridis doesn´t have the tip that alba has. Check out the pic upwards.
FH
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