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CrankyGremlin
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Cactus ID

#8933686 - 09/15/08 02:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Hey all!

I found these cacti at a local nursery and was wondering if anyone here could please id them?

Cactus 1

Cactus 2

Cactus 3

Cactus 4

Cactus 5

Cactus 6

Cactus 7

Cactus 8

Cactus 9

Cactus 10

Cactus 11

Cactus 12

Cactus 13

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felixhigh
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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: CrankyGremlin]
#8933750 - 09/15/08 02:34 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Hey there! Welcome to the shroomery!
Please make sure you read the Updated Rules and Guidelines sticky on top of this forum.

You got close now, but these are all Myrtillocactus geometrizans (Blue Myrtle).

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: CrankyGremlin]
#8933752 - 09/15/08 02:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

odd specimens, they look like myrtillocactus of some sort, but they also kind of look trichocereusy in a small way.

my bet is myrtillocactus though.

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Re: Cactus ID

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#8936863 - 09/15/08 11:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Really a good find in my book. Its hard for me to aquire good grafting stock locally. What did you pay, if I may ask?

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CrankyGremlin
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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: ethnoguy]
#8942206 - 09/17/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for your help guys!

I do have a question though, doesn't cactus 3 look different to cactus 10? Or is it the same species? (Blue Myrtle)

ethnoguy,
I haven't bought them yet, but they priced around R50 to R150.

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: ethnoguy]
#8942273 - 09/17/08 01:03 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for your help guys!

I do have a question though, doesn't cactus 3 look different to cactus 10? Or is it the same species? (Blue Myrtle)

ethnoguy,
I haven't bought them yet, but they priced around R50 to R150.

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scruffymafia
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[Re: CrankyGremlin]
#8942449 - 09/17/08 02:06 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: CrankyGremlin]
#8942781 - 09/17/08 05:04 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i think they are the same, myrtillocactus geometrizans, they get longer spines when they grow up.
cactus 10 is probably a cutting from older growth.

just my opinion, i'm not saying that you are wrong scruffy :tongue2:

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[Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#8947106 - 09/17/08 11:12 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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CrankyGremlin
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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: scruffymafia]
#8947267 - 09/17/08 11:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks again for your help chaps! :smile:

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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: scruffymafia]
#8947889 - 09/18/08 02:58 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

scruffymafia said:
Yeah i know, but the simple fact is - im always right lol

Its simple to see the differences. Take the ribs for example, M. sch has fat ribs that flatten out a few inches from the top, where M. geo generally keeps its ribs CS-star shape.

Also the rib count is usually 5 for M. sch and usually 6 for M. geo at about 6" tall.

im curious to know what you think of my 8 ribbed myrtillo's :cool:

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#8947948 - 09/18/08 03:59 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Ummm...

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6" tall

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usually 6

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: scruffymafia]
#8947970 - 09/18/08 04:29 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

so rib count is no way to certainly id any cactus

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#8948061 - 09/18/08 05:53 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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uarewotueat said:
so rib count is no way to certainly id any cactus

agreed

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[Re: royer]
#8951011 - 09/18/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: scruffymafia]
#8951123 - 09/18/08 07:08 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Adam: Rib count myths?
Jamie: MYTH BUSTED!

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: Prof. Astro]
#8952490 - 09/18/08 11:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

heres 2 of the same with different spine lengths...

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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: cpw1971]
#8953163 - 09/19/08 01:55 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i've got myrtillocactus geometrizans with 5 - 8 ribs, and spine lengths that vary from short to long...

i think you are barking up the wrong tree scruffy, they are all m. geometrizans in the original post.

spine length and rib count don't count for jack, those factors are quite easily explainable considering natural variation within a species :yesnod:

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#8955840 - 09/19/08 05:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

are you calling me a dog?

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: scruffymafia]
#8955864 - 09/19/08 05:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

:igor:

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Re: Cactus ID

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#8956037 - 09/19/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Haha, you didnt think that was funny? :frown:

:frown:

Umm.. yeah i think what i was saying was possibly incorrect. Most likely not a different species but definitely a significant genetic variation in the species. Short-spined myrtles... Indeedy

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[Re: scruffymafia]
#8956103 - 09/19/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

too obvious lol, i prefer your humour in paint format :tongue2:

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: scruffymafia]
#8956481 - 09/19/08 08:13 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

scruffymafia said:
are you calling me a dog?

OBAMA: If you put lip-stick on a dog...... :coleman:

:coleman:

LOL, sometimes a small hijack makes a thread great.

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Re: Cactus ID

[Re: ethnoguy]
#8956552 - 09/19/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

are you calling me a terrorist?

haha

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#8957298 - 09/20/08 12:21 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

No. Perhaps that sexy Palin chick though. :lol:

:lol:

Too bad shes a republican. She would make such a nice lesbian black chick. :shocked:

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Re: Cactus ID

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#8957877 - 09/20/08 07:05 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

lol

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#12856515 - 07/06/10 01:17 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Pic 9 looked like a peruvian torch to me.

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#12856568 - 07/06/10 01:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Pic 9 is 100% Myrtillocactus geometrizans, and this is almost a 2 year old bump...

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