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Electrical Supply to a blower *edit: make sure you dont follow advice at beginning, FIRE HAZARD!*
    #8933112 - 09/15/08 12:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

does anyone know how to give power to one of these babies

Edited by themange (09/18/08 07:54 AM)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933142 - 09/15/08 12:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yeah black to black white to white and ground (copper)to ground. (make sure you use wire nuts!) make sure you do not have an industrial on witch would be 220 or bigger there should be a silver tag on it somewhere

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933171 - 09/15/08 12:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Home depot or wal mart should have a wall plug power adapter. that will work. You might have to cut and tie wires together, but it shouldn't be too tough.

Make sure you know what the power needs are - volts and amps. the power converter should have an output of the same number of volts and same or more amps. Too many volts will fry the blower, not enough will probably work, but it won't be as effective. If it outputs fewer amps than the blower needs, it will blow the power adapter. This info is based on limited education and personal experience - just went through three power adapters before realizing I should do some research...

If you know the volts and amps, tell that to a guy at home depot in the electrical dept and he'll show you what you need.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: lo_rider]
    #8933176 - 09/15/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

hmm.

i know how to splice stuff together, but what kind of cord should i splice to it?

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: nenl]
    #8933203 - 09/15/08 12:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Home depot or wal mart should have a wall plug power adapter. that will work. You might have to cut and tie wires together, but it shouldn't be too tough.

Make sure you know what the power needs are - volts and amps. the power converter should have an output of the same number of volts and same or more amps. Too many volts will fry the blower, not enough will probably work, but it won't be as effective. If it outputs fewer amps than the blower needs, it will blow the power adapter. This info is based on limited education and personal experience - just went through three power adapters before realizing I should do some research...

If you know the volts and amps, tell that to a guy at home depot in the electrical dept and he'll show you what you need.




would a cell phone charger or something of the sort work?

edit: looking around i find that cellphone chargers say 5-12vdc.

do i need to get something that says 12-24vdc?

Edited by themange (09/15/08 12:45 PM)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933210 - 09/15/08 12:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Someone is about to burn a house down...

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #8933219 - 09/15/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

:smirk:

thanks for the vote of confidence.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933237 - 09/15/08 12:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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would a cell phone charger or something of the sort work?




I doubt it. I would guess that blower needs more ams than a cell phone charger would put out. The item page you links says 12-24VDC - I assume that's Volts Direct Current (not 100% sure though). I would guess 3 amps would be enough for the blower, but there should be a sticker or engraved somewhere what the power requirements are. I think cell phone chargers are like .75 amps.

again - I'm not even an amateur at this stuff - I just know what I had to for my one-time electrical project, so I could be way wrong...

Keep a fire extinguisher nearby when you plug it in the first time:)


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: nenl]
    #8933255 - 09/15/08 12:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I would go with a 14 gage or something big and thick you don't want problems later down the road.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: lo_rider]
    #8933298 - 09/15/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Go to Home Depot or Heating/AC supply house, and buy a 120 volt to 24 volt Transformer they are used in heating and air conditioning.. I know cause that's what I do the transformer will convert 120 volts to 24 volts..  So you hook up an extension cord splice it into the high side of the transformer then use like 20-24 gauge wire to splice into the low side of the transformer and fan..  Problem solved thank me later...  Her is a link to what you basically need.. CLICK ME

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: nenl]
    #8933309 - 09/15/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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would a cell phone charger or something of the sort work?




I doubt it. I would guess that blower needs more ams than a cell phone charger would put out. The item page you links says 12-24VDC - I assume that's Volts Direct Current (not 100% sure though). I would guess 3 amps would be enough for the blower, but there should be a sticker or engraved somewhere what the power requirements are. I think cell phone chargers are like .75 amps.

again - I'm not even an amateur at this stuff - I just know what I had to for my one-time electrical project, so I could be way wrong...

Keep a fire extinguisher nearby when you plug it in the first time:)




do you think something like this would be good if i stripped off the end?

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933322 - 09/15/08 01:09 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Damion5050]
    #8933350 - 09/15/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Also you can cut out the hassle and just order a regular 120 volt blower fan from here they have decent prices..

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Damion5050]
    #8933361 - 09/15/08 01:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

that one looks safer to. what do i wire into it? is that the 120/208/240V  part of the description?

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933365 - 09/15/08 01:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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Quote:

themange said:

would a cell phone charger or something of the sort work?




I doubt it. I would guess that blower needs more ams than a cell phone charger would put out. The item page you links says 12-24VDC - I assume that's Volts Direct Current (not 100% sure though). I would guess 3 amps would be enough for the blower, but there should be a sticker or engraved somewhere what the power requirements are. I think cell phone chargers are like .75 amps.

again - I'm not even an amateur at this stuff - I just know what I had to for my one-time electrical project, so I could be way wrong...

Keep a fire extinguisher nearby when you plug it in the first time:)




do you think something like this would be good if i stripped off the end?




Not sure - 1.3 amps might not be enough. If it's not enough, the "brick" part of the converter will start to get really hot (warm is ok, hot means it's probably going to fail). I had three similar situations and none caught fire, but got hot enough to distort the plastic casing before they died. If you try that one, make sure the brick is on a non flammable / non meltable surface and watch it closely for the first couple hours.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Damion5050]
    #8933372 - 09/15/08 01:18 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Also you can cut out the hassle and just order a regular 120 volt blower fan from here they have decent prices..




you still have to wire them, and i dont think i need something so powerful/loud

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Damion5050]
    #8933382 - 09/15/08 01:19 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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ANOTHER ONE BUT CHEAPER




I'm going to go with this^^

but what do i wire the into the input?

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933388 - 09/15/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Also you can cut out the hassle and just order a regular 120 volt blower fan from here they have decent prices..




you still have to wire them, and i dont think i need something so powerful/loud



You might have to wire them but there will be no worries of fire..  :onfire:

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933402 - 09/15/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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ANOTHER ONE BUT CHEAPER




I'm going to go with this^^

but what do i wire the into the input?




It will have a sticker when you buy it... Says 120 volt black and red so you hook the black and red up to your extension cord..  Then the sticker will say 24 volt brown and blue..  So you hook the borwn and blue up to the fan..  Colors are just examples they are different on all transformers take a pic when you get it and I'll help ya out on how to wire it..

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Damion5050]
    #8933406 - 09/15/08 01:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

That one in the pic if you get that exact one you would hook the blue and yellow to the fan and the white and black to the extension cord..  The white wire is ground or neutral and the black is the hot 120volt and the blue and yellow doesn't matter how you hook them up..

Edited by Damion5050 (09/15/08 01:25 PM)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Damion5050]
    #8933433 - 09/15/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

alright i think i got it.

1.shave off the outside of an 120v cord.

2. pull out the +/-, and ground cords

3. attach these all to the input of the transformer

4. hook up fan to the outputs

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933440 - 09/15/08 01:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

pretty much make sure you use the right input though cause that transformer is rated 120/240/360..  So you can hook it up to any incoming power supply basically just use the proper input wires (the black and white) then cut back the other (orange and red) and put some electrical tape over them... Hooke up (blue and yellow) to the fan.. And it works...

Edited by Damion5050 (09/15/08 01:31 PM)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933454 - 09/15/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

:omgawesome:

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933475 - 09/15/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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does anyone know how to give power to one of these babies





Hey, do you know what CFM that blower is rated at? How big is it? Where'd you get it?

I'm curious. I've had a hard time finding a -small- blower, but I have an interest in purchasing one.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8933478 - 09/15/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

er, why do my extension cords say 125v?

is that extra 5v a bad problem.?

they also only have 2 prongs, should i go for a 3 prong one?

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    #8934034 - 09/15/08 03:30 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Cultivate]
    #8934055 - 09/15/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

:omgawesome:

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Rahz]
    #8934065 - 09/15/08 03:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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does anyone know how to give power to one of these babies





Hey, do you know what CFM that blower is rated at? How big is it? Where'd you get it?

I'm curious. I've had a hard time finding a -small- blower, but I have an interest in purchasing one.




no clue on the cfm, im kinda going out on a limb here buying it.

it looks like the same make/model/size as the one agar used in his homemade ultrasonic I'm hoping to use it with success.

all the info you need to know about it is in the link provided in my first post.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8934480 - 09/15/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Weird they don't list CFM. It's a little larger that I would like, but the price is nice. I found a smaller one a few months ago that ran at 52 CFM, but they were $55 each.

Still, I'm leaning towards an AC fan. A bathroom duct fan would run at regular voltage, can be found pushing as low as 40-50 CFM, and airflow could be adjusted using a cheap potentiometer. No need for a rectifier, and they can be found cheap.

Duct fans are blowers, the one in this link:

http://electricalsupplies4less.stores.yahoo.net/papaecvefan5.html

Puts out 50 CFM and is $13

An alternative to a potentiometer would be a ball joint valve. Run the fan at full speed, and adjust the valve to the desired air flow.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Rahz]
    #8934502 - 09/15/08 04:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i don't know anything about duct fans, but i would guess they dont handle well under any amount of static pressure.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Rahz]
    #8934509 - 09/15/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Go with a 2 prong/wire entension cord because the transformer does not have a ground wire so there is no place to hook it up get the 2 wire..

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Damion5050]
    #8934520 - 09/15/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

it looks like it does in the picture?

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8934579 - 09/15/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

LOL read my post it is a 120/240/360 volt transformer..  If you want to hook it up to 120 volts you hook up the black and white wire..  If you want to hook it up to 240 volts you hook up the red and white wire..  If you want to hook it up to 360 volts you hook up the orange and white wire..  The other colors are for other voltage's..  You house runs on 120 volts that means you hook up the white and black wire to the extension cord cut back and tape the orange and red..  And hook up the blue and yellow to the fan..  :yoda2:

My previous post


pretty much make sure you use the right input though cause that transformer is rated 120/240/360..  So you can hook it up to any incoming power supply basically just use the proper input wires (the black and white) then cut back the other (orange and red) and put some electrical tape over them... Hooke up (blue and yellow) to the fan.. And it works...


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8936064 - 09/15/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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i don't know anything about duct fans, but i would guess they dont handle well under any amount of static pressure.




Well, that's what they're made for. Even raidal duct fans need to be able to push.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Rahz]
    #8944439 - 09/17/08 02:08 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

the transformer:


the extension cord:

the outside of half the insulation is ribbed, while the other half is not.



the 12/24 VDC blower:



now i know that i want to hook up the black and white to my extension cord, and tape off the orange and red.

question 1: which color do i attach to the ribbed side of the extension cord, and which color do i attach to the smooth side?

EDIT1: I now know that black is the hot wire, and that should be connected to the smooth half of the electrical cord, while the white should be connected to the ribbed side. please correct me if i am wrong.


i also know i attach the blue and yellow to my blower.

question 2: now which of the 2 wires coming out of my blower do i connect them to, assuming i want to run the blower at 24 VDC?

Edited by themange (09/17/08 02:19 PM)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8944511 - 09/17/08 02:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Dude, you've been getting some horrible electrical advice in this thread.

Do NOT hook that blower up to THAT transformer.  Not only is 40va not enough to run a motor, your blower is DIRECT CURRENT.  That's what VDC means. (Volts, Direct Current).  If you hook it up to that AC transformer, you'll melt something and/or fry the motor.

In addition, never plug anything with metal on it into a wall socket without a ground connected.  The ground(green) wire on your cord connects to all the metal parts to discharge any shorts directly to ground, thus tripping the circuit breaker.

However, you can't run a DC motor on AC current.  It's that simple.
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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8944533 - 09/17/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

ah nuts.

i thought this transformer was supposed to change the AC current to a DC.

i don't know much about electricity.

is there ANY way to get this blower to run?

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8944558 - 09/17/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, find out from the motor data plate how many amps it requires at 24 volts DC, and then purchase or build an appropriate power supply.

A transformer simply changes the voltage.  It doesn't rectify the AC into DC.
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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8944603 - 09/17/08 02:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

thanks roger for your help. im glad you chimed in before all hell broke loose.

this is the only thing on my blower:


is it the 45w i need to be buying a power supply for?

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8944653 - 09/17/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If it doesnt have a ground you could always use double insulated cord.  Why risk it though.  If you are gonna do it you might as well do it right.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8944662 - 09/17/08 02:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes, find out from the motor data plate how many amps it requires at 24 volts DC, and then purchase or build an appropriate power supply.

A transformer simply changes the voltage.  It doesn't rectify the AC into DC.
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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: HazeyRoms]
    #8944672 - 09/17/08 03:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I know that.  I also know that if there is no ground wire you have to make sure that what you are using is double insulated.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: HazeyRoms]
    #8944681 - 09/17/08 03:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

noone is backtalking anyone.


please don't argue in this thread.

ill repeat:

is it the 45W that i need to find an appropriate power supply for?


and here's a shot in the dark, would this be what i need?
http://awc-direct.stores.yahoo.net/moxa2.html


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Krez]
    #8944695 - 09/17/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I know that.  I also know that if there is no ground wire you have to make sure that what you are using is double insulated.




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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: HazeyRoms]
    #8944725 - 09/17/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i have no clue what you are talking about.

unless you know something everyone else here doesn't, please stop derailing my thread.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8944756 - 09/17/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

update: i called the place where i ordered it from. they said i should get a power supply that runs 24vcd at 2amps.

edit: it looks like i need this

http://www.galco.com/scripts/cgiip.exe/wa/wcat/itemdtl.r?pnum=DR-4524-MW&mfgr=MEAN%20WELL

a confirmation would be awesome!

Edited by themange (09/17/08 03:22 PM)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8944851 - 09/17/08 03:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1TDN1

I don't want to derail your thread.  This type of squirrel cage blower was linked on the first page of your thread by Damion5050.

It's small, cute and cheap for a brand new unit.

I'm not an electrical engineer .... so I'd better shut up .... but ... wouldn't this work for you ?  (I'm thinking you are doing Agar's Humidification thing.)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: uncle_rico]
    #8945025 - 09/17/08 04:21 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1TDN1

I don't want to derail your thread.  This type of squirrel cage blower was linked on the first page of your thread by Damion5050.

It's small, cute and cheap for a brand new unit.

I'm not an electrical engineer .... so I'd better shut up .... but ... wouldn't this work for you ?  (I'm thinking you are doing Agar's Humidification thing.)

Good luck.

Sorry, if I am all wrong.




He said they are to noisy but I mean they should only be running when you are using the flowhood right??  So noise should not be a problem considering the fact it's only gona run for a bit..

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: uncle_rico]
    #8945219 - 09/17/08 04:58 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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uncle_rico said:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1TDN1

I don't want to derail your thread.  This type of squirrel cage blower was linked on the first page of your thread by Damion5050.

It's small, cute and cheap for a brand new unit.

I'm not an electrical engineer .... so I'd better shut up .... but ... wouldn't this work for you ?  (I'm thinking you are doing Agar's Humidification thing.)

Good luck.

Sorry, if I am all wrong.




it would, but nowhere does any of those fans by grainger tell me what noise decible they run at. If someone that has a blower that is very quiet and runs on AC i would be all ears!

the reason i bought the one i did is because its made for servers and computers, and runs rather quietly. (I hope)

if anyone knows anything about DC power, I am looking to power 24vdc at 2Amps. would you let me know if this is what i need? will this allow me to use a cord with a ground on it? i would hate to buy something else i don't need.

http://www.galco.com/scripts/cgiip.exe/wa/wcat/itemdtl.r?pnum=DR-4524-MW&mfgr=MEAN%20WELL

damieon, im not using this for a flowhood, it will be running on a regular basis and thus why i want something that is low noise.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Damion5050]
    #8945236 - 09/17/08 05:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

First of all, the blower needs to be matched to the application.  You first need to know how many cubic feet of air you want to move per minute.  If this is for a flowhood, forget it.  It's not going to push anything through a laminar flow filter.  If it's for some other application, a DC power supply that can furnish at least 2 amps at 24 volts will be OK to run it.
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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8945257 - 09/17/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

it's for agars homemade ultrasonic.

I know i seem like a pest asking all these questions, but would you let me know if that power supply i just linked is right?

i would assume it is but a confirmation would be oh so sweet and take a load of my mind.

thanks again!

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8945283 - 09/17/08 05:08 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I typed as you were.  That power supply would be 'iffy' as it would be running at the max output current.  If it's for short durations, it will work fine, and you can use a two wire cord to the power supply.

You might also check at an auto parts store.  If you can find a battery charger that has a 24 volt output, it would also work.
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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8945300 - 09/17/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

thank you!:grin:

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8945391 - 09/17/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i should add, ideally it will only run for 15 minutes every hour or so, i hope that is the short duration you had in mind :stoned:

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8945455 - 09/17/08 05:36 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

15 minutes per hour should be fine. You could also use a couple of motorcycle or lawn and garden tractor batteries connected in series.  When they run down, just recharge them with a cheap battery charger.  If you go the battery route, put a 5 amp fuse in series with one of the leads.
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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8945474 - 09/17/08 05:39 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

you sure know your shit mayne.

im sure i would be burned to death/homeless right now if it wasnt for you.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8945497 - 09/17/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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you sure know your shit mayne.

im sure i would be burned to death/homeless right now if it wasnt for you.




I wouldnt say burned to death...Well Maybe 3rd degree burns but nothing a few skin grafts couldnt take care of!  :thumbup:


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8945503 - 09/17/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

oh gee skin grafts!?

that sounds like fun ill take a dozen please.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8945625 - 09/17/08 06:08 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Ill take 2nds.  Seriously though kids and adults alike should not play around with electricity even if you have the basics down.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Krez]
    #8946901 - 09/17/08 10:31 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

>>>>If someone that has a blower that is very quiet and runs on AC i would be all ears!

Not to harp, but bathroom duct fans are fairly quiet, especially if you use a potentiometer ("pot switch", which is basically a volume knob) to adjust the CFMs down. The one I listed was just an item from a quick search, but it was a 50 CFM unit, which would probably be pretty quite once the airflow was adjusted to 30-40 CFM or less. They run on AC, are made for pressure, and are cheaper than the blower last listed. Worth thinking about.


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Rahz]
    #8947332 - 09/18/08 12:02 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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especially if you use a potentiometer ("pot switch", which is basically a volume knob)




Never attempt to control the speed of an AC motor with a pot.  The speed of an AC motor is determined by the 60 hz power supply, or 50 hz if you're in Europe. Only a DC motor has speed controlled by current.

People burn down their houses every year doing just that, and just this year in my area, a baby was killed in a house fire because the dad tried to control a ceiling fan with a lighting dimmer, which is also wrong.  The electrical code was written for a reason, and it's also the reason electricians must be licensed.
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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8947432 - 09/18/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, thanks, and sorry for the mis-info. There goes my plan. Are there low cost AC motor controllers available?


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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Rahz]
    #8947438 - 09/18/08 12:27 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

A small one runs about $35, and can control up to 1/2 hp.
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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8948231 - 09/18/08 07:51 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

This thread is chock full of good info if you make it to the third page.

i should edit the title so noone reads halfway through and ends up hurting themselves.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Krez]
    #8949845 - 09/18/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Ill take 2nds.  Seriously though kids and adults alike should not play around with electricity even if you have the basics down.




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    #8955658 - 09/19/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: Cultivate]
    #8956149 - 09/19/08 06:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

ah sorry man i already ordered one.

good looking out!

i actually found a really cheap one for 16 dollars, so all in all the blower plus power supply came out to about $30

to bad i ordered a 20 dollar transformer i dont need first go around.

*ahem*

anyone want it? ill do it for s&h and a trade rating.

its a 24vac transformer.

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Re: Electrical Supply to a blower [Re: themange]
    #8956183 - 09/19/08 06:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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The electrical code was written for a reason, and it's also the reason electricians must be licensed




This is way off subject but in FL an electric company only needs one licensed and every one that works under that license does not need one. so basically all electrical company's down here hardly have any licensed electricians working on the job its crazy but thats how it is... i know this only because im going to school and working to be a licensed electricians

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