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rupertbeaner
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Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks?
#8930273 - 09/14/08 07:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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piracetam
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: rupertbeaner]
#8930312 - 09/14/08 07:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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it's just one of many. not a bad one, though. there's no one definitive 'right way' of extracting the spice.
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: rupertbeaner]
#8930326 - 09/14/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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is this the most common and up to date tek?
Couldn't tell ya.
"Does it work?"
Yup. One tip: If one were to use naptha as a solvent, it is not very volatile and will not evaporate in a reasonable amount of time. However, N,N-DMT's solubility in naptha depends on the temperature. If N,N-DMT were dissolved in naptha in a warm water bath, the DMT would precipitate to the bottom of the container if placed in a very cold environment (-0 degrees Celsius).
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Entropymancer
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: rupertbeaner]
#8931178 - 09/14/08 11:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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rupertbeaner said: I saw a very good tek on erowid
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml
is this the most common and up to date tek?
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piracetam said: it's just one of many. not a bad one, though.
Wrong, it is a bad one.
If you read through it, QT fucked up in writing the basification and nonpolar extraction steps. As far as I can tell, that tek would not work as written. Noman and I have both pleaded with erowid to take it down, or at least give it a big bold "THIS DOESN'T WORK" disclaimer, but they still leave it up there for some reason... it's almost like they're trying to trip people up.
But you're right, there is no single best way to extract DMT; personally I've steered clear of teks and just freehand the process. It's easy once you understand what you're doing.
OP, I recommend reading my Extraction Overview (link in my sig) to get an idea of how the process works, and generally what your options are. I believe I also link to a couple of popular teks that are good for beginners there as well.
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COLDLOGIC
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: Entropymancer]
#8948651 - 09/18/08 10:24 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Entropymancer said:
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rupertbeaner said: I saw a very good tek on erowid
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml
is this the most common and up to date tek?
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piracetam said: it's just one of many. not a bad one, though.
Wrong, it is a bad one.
If you read through it, QT fucked up in writing the basification and nonpolar extraction steps. As far as I can tell, that tek would not work as written. Noman and I have both pleaded with erowid to take it down, or at least give it a big bold "THIS DOESN'T WORK" disclaimer, but they still leave it up there for some reason... it's almost like they're trying to trip people up.
But you're right, there is no single best way to extract DMT; personally I've steered clear of teks and just freehand the process. It's easy once you understand what you're doing.
OP, I recommend reading my Extraction Overview (link in my sig) to get an idea of how the process works, and generally what your options are. I believe I also link to a couple of popular teks that are good for beginners there as well.
I clicked on the link...maybe its just me but it dont work.
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Entropymancer
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: COLDLOGIC]
#8948711 - 09/18/08 10:46 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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The DMT-Nexus (where it's hosted) appears to be down this morning, probably some server maintenance going on. Try it again in a few hours.
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Cactilove
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: Newfound_wonder]
#14496734 - 05/22/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Now hold on I used room temp naptha and got whiter xtals than when heated. And it's seemed to percipitate fine. But it seems to be slightly weaker according to some. Could it be weaker cause I didn't use heated solvent or was it a different variable?
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JimLahey
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: Cactilove]
#14496779 - 05/22/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Heated naphtha usually gets you more alkaloids from the plant than just DMT, white crystals definitely are my favorite and get me where I am trying to go. But the color really does not speak much for the quality of the crystals.
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: JimLahey]
#14496801 - 05/22/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cactilove
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: JimLahey]
#14496922 - 05/22/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So you could have purer yellow DMT than white sometimes! How can I tell the purity besides just taking it.
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: Cactilove]
#14496951 - 05/22/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cactilove said: So you could have purer yellow DMT than white sometimes! How can I tell the purity besides just taking it.
No. Not true, yellow DMT has impurities, that's what makes it yellow. White DMT is the most pure. Yellow DMT can still be good though.
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JimLahey
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: bholzer]
#14496964 - 05/22/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am just saying, white crystals can have lots of impurities too...
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: JimLahey]
#14496971 - 05/22/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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JimLahey said: I am just saying, white crystals can have lots of impurities too...
I'm pretty sure white crystals will always be more pure than yellow ones. Not to say white crystals don't have any impurities, but I think it's safe to say that anyone would rather smoke some white DMT.
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: bholzer]
#14497003 - 05/22/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I definitely would, but I know some people who swear by the yellow stuff for some reason...IDK, maybe it has other alkaloids in it but I would always choose white.
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: JimLahey]
#14497006 - 05/23/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not pretentious, I'll smoke some yellow goo any day!
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JimLahey
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: bholzer]
#14497025 - 05/23/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The yellow goo works, but it does produce as strong of a breakthrough for me for some reason. Some nice light yellow crystals always are nice though, I have not gotten the goo since my first extraction. Though I have been having a problem with brown naphtha this time around but a mini A/B cleaned it up nice.
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Cactilove
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Re: Extracting DMT, where to get started? recent teks? [Re: JimLahey]
#14497058 - 05/23/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nah man for me yellow stuff produces the more potent experience due to IMO some useful impurities like tannin waxes and oils or other alkaloids. White is safer and looks prettier though IMO.
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