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cpw1971
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highdroponics said: fill me in again exactly what lcaros means.
all i hear about the icaro's peruvianus is that it is actually macrogonus and basically inactive... so don't get your hopes up if you are growing it
Not true bro. I have tried Icaros many many times and it was very good stuff. It was Imported from Peru by a reputable vendor. I used to get bags of 1000 grams. KBG used to get the same stuff. He was the one who turned me on to the vendor.
maybe you are thinking of Teo's True Blue Peruvians??
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: cpw1971]
#8868782 - 09/02/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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those are both trichs. the large one looks like the ones i grow (peru or macro)
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: scruffymafia]
#8869438 - 09/02/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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scruffymafia said: I heard he was selling macro chips that were inactive. his seeds are meant to be the most potent PT strain available, they are meant to have some strong macro genetics also. macros are actually quite potent apparently, around 5% i heard
now i could be getting mixed up and perhaps that is what i heard... chinese whispers
a 5% trich... hmmm now that i doubt...
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scruffymafia
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echinopsis_macrogona It contains less than 1% of 3, 4 dimethoxyphenylethylamine, less than 1% of 3-methoxytyramine, less than 1% of tyramine and more than 5% of mescaline.
I cant wait to grow some.
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: scruffymafia]
#8870027 - 09/03/08 04:08 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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if that is true (don't believe everything you read on wiki) that would make it on par with lophophora in terms of mesc content...
of course it depends on what you read.
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T.macrogonus No traditional use. Total alkaloids 10-50mg/100g fresh Mescaline 5-25mg/100g fresh (10-50% of total) 3-Methoxytyramine (1-10% of total) 3,4-Dimethoxyphenylethylamine (1-10% of total) Tyramine (1-10% of total)
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scruffymafia
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Ahh indeed, that seems to be a more accurate study.
0.05% total alkaloids?
Thats kinda gutting - whoever wrote that article on the all infinite wiki must have have read that and got his numbers wrong..
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: scruffymafia]
#8877304 - 09/04/08 02:12 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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a 2% trich is considered excellent in potency terms, 5% is just unheard of... that wiki article needs changing, very misleading
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: scruffymafia]
#8879448 - 09/04/08 09:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not sure about the tiny little guy but the bigger one could be Stetsonia coryne OR seedgrown Trichocereus pachanoi (no V notches).
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cpw1971
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: felixhigh]
#8879497 - 09/04/08 09:14 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the little one looks like a seed grown Pedro. The big one the spines and aeroles look like my Stetsonia Coryone.
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scruffymafia
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: cpw1971]
#8879620 - 09/04/08 09:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nope, its definitely not a Stetsonia coryne. I am sure now that it is definately, without a single trace of doubt that it is a PT or very closely related.
Definitely a Trichocereus atleast.
Time to close topic i think
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: scruffymafia]
#8879778 - 09/04/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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if you are sure it's trichocereus, then i say cuzcoensis because of the whitening spines, it might have some peruvinoid in it but white spines is a definite sign of cuzco genes.
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highdroponics said: if you are sure it's trichocereus, then i say cuzcoensis because of the whitening spines, it might have some peruvinoid in it but white spines is a definite sign of cuzco genes.
But cuzco have yellow new spine growth, whereas that cactus is reddish. Yes, I think its a hybrid. Perhaps even some kind of cuzco cross, but its not a reg cuzco. I am positive. Here is a pic of my cuzco/peruvian torch cross:
Sorry its sideways. I was drunk when I uploaded it.
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Re: Another awesome Cacti ID [Re: ethnoguy]
#8884484 - 09/05/08 10:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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ethnoguy said: Sorry its sideways. I was drunk when I uploaded it.
Haha, awesome. Drunken internets is always a winner
I think one of the cacti i picked up in my scoop is a pure blooded cuzco - the spines are really green and stupidly weak when fresh. I couldnt believe how easily they broke.
Inactive but still fucking awesome cacti.
As for the one i in this topic, i know believe even more strongly than ever that it is a Matucanan (or very close to) torch with some small traces of cuzco genetics.
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