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big_laughing_gym
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OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid
#8924968 - 09/13/08 06:26 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is my first post here. I have been wanting to start an account here forever, well about three years or so, since my friend fetalscab told me about this place. I'm a bit of a nonsocial grower for obvious reasons, but have been diligently growing over the last decade or so, and have accumulated a small wealth of "homegrown knowledge" on the subject. Over the years I have discovered that potency between strains of cubensis are nearly identical; However, I couldn't help but find two favorites among the flock. B+ are about the largest I have ever encountered, although they are hollow their immense stature more than makes up for that, and Koh Samui are about the most unique, round, fat, ball-like, smallest, most dense, (and in contradiction to my previous statement) most potent little suckers I have ever had the pleasure to cultivate. Anyhow, I have gotten pretty confident with my cultivation tech over the years and since I never have a problem with contamination, anymore, and since I only grow the two strains I haven't labeled anything for about a year or so. This sloppiness on my behalf has inadvertently led to one of the coolest, accidental, strains I have ever seen. I have seen these fat, dense, (bruising immediately) sky-blue, little giants reach heights of 9" with cap/stalk diameters about the same. Some look like softballs, while others look like an arrow perched on a golf ball, and the potency is simply amazing. Its a shame that none of the spores are viable because I would love nothing more than to flood the world with this unique accident. Even though I think I know the answer to this question here it is. Why the heck aren't the spores able to germinate? Please get back to me with some feedback. I'm new here and would like to get to know everyone, and build up a reputation.
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Srirachi
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Because the 'hybrid' doesn't exist?
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noobieshroomie
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: Srirachi]
#8925094 - 09/13/08 06:54 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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have you tried to clone it? make a lc?agar?anything
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tonyshroom
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noobieshroomie said: have you tried to clone it? make a lc?agar?anything
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tonyshroom
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: tonyshroom]
#8925153 - 09/13/08 07:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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pics??
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Srirachi
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I call shennanigans Way to bring shame to your friend fetalscab.
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Krez
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: tonyshroom]
#8925175 - 09/13/08 07:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well if it is its a miracle that it happened without snake venom. Crossing sub strains is easier (well for RR it is) than crossing species.
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noobieshroomie
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: Krez]
#8925207 - 09/13/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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still without trying to clone make a lc? if i was him that would be on the top of my list. i call BS too
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: tonyshroom]
#8925483 - 09/13/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh yea, I have 5 qts of LC. and that works fine but the spores just dont germinate.
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noobieshroomie
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without pics it is impossible to belive show us
-------------------- AMU Best Thread Ever CapZilla said: not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some. Citric said: Your signature is wrong on colonization temps! GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION Thank you mycochef
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FooMan
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Did they look kind of like this:
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big_laughing_gym
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: FooMan]
#8925883 - 09/13/08 09:44 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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kind of yeah, those are some darnd fine Koh Samui's my friend, but alot taller and more hollow. The next time I get a flush I'll borrow somones camera and put up some pics.
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noobieshroomie
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i call bs from what i have read/heard there is no such thing as a HYBRID thats only in plants not shrooms. ANYONE please correct me if I am wrong
-------------------- AMU Best Thread Ever CapZilla said: not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some. Citric said: Your signature is wrong on colonization temps! GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION Thank you mycochef
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Read over big_laughing_gym's posts, he's full of all kinds of crazy talk
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HazeyRoms
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: Krez]
#8926742 - 09/14/08 01:07 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Krez said: Well if it is its a miracle that it happened without snake venom. Crossing sub strains is easier (well for RR it is) than crossing species.
-WTF? Crossing a cube strain to another cube strain is very simple. Almost all cubensis "STRAINS" will cross making a new "STRAIN" Nothing there about crossing and making a whole new "SPECIE"
-Example, PE-Albino: PF ALBINO+PE=PE-ALBINO -PE6: PE+TEXAS=PE6 ++Many more, too many to list and think up
-So no, snake venom not required..
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: HazeyRoms]
#8926842 - 09/14/08 01:38 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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It is if you're into Voodoo.
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HazeyRoms
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: misos]
#8928257 - 09/14/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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misos said: It is if you're into Voodoo.
-Yeah, well no.
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big_laughing_gym
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: HazeyRoms]
#8928424 - 09/14/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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OK, I'm not a Dr. in Mycology and will never claim to be, but let me lay it out for all you nonbelievers, I'll even try to use laments terms for all you critics. If you try to inoculate 1 jar with 2 diff. sub-strains, one will win and one will lose, the most aggressive strain will prevail, because at this point both are monokaryotic. Now, from my experience, if one were to inoculate 2 diff. jars w/ 2 diff sub-strains IE.. B+ and Koh Samui, allow both to colonize separately and put both into one fruiting container leaving about an inch or so space between the two, and fill the space with a non-nutritious casing layer. After fruiting is initiated the 2 diff. dikaryotic sub-strains will mutate to suit one another, and on one side you will have A, the other side you will have B, and in the middle will be a mutant C. Then the specimen with desirable traits may be cloned, and LC may be made for further reproduction of the mutant. The problem is that it is highly illegal to posses and distribute LC as it contains psilocybin, where as spores are perfectly legal to posses and distribute because they contain none. The initial question I asked was, why are the spores from the mutant sub-strain not viable (wont germinate, because I wanted to give it away for free because I thought it was neat, but without spores I would be welcoming all types of unnecessary legalities into my life. I cannot guarantee that this will work every time but with trial and error eventually you can expect a "hybrid" or mutant sub-strain. There is technically (as far as I know) no way to produce a hybrid of 2 diff. strains IE.. Cubensis + Azurescens; However one may create a mutant sub-strain, using this or a similar method, that will show characteristics of both sub-strains. If you don't believe me try it yourself. other than that if you don't know what you are talking about keep your childish criticism to yourself, as I was looking for a way to benefit all of us. If I am wrong would someone who is a Dr. in mycology please explain to me how this "miracle" occurred?
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big_laughing_gym said: If you try to inoculate 1 jar with 2 diff. sub-strains, one will win and one will lose, the most aggressive strain will prevail, because at this point both are monokaryotic.
This is not true. Please do some research before posting misinformation.
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big_laughing_gym
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Re: OOPS Koh Samui and B+ Hybrid [Re: FooMan]
#8928493 - 09/14/08 01:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry, didn't mean to misinform. Thats just what happened when I tried it, just stating my experience. Does that mean I'm correct about the rest?
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