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OfflineAdamist
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Re: Aging and Western Society [Re: Swami]
    #893919 - 09/19/02 05:27 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

I really wish I had at least one old wise person to absorb knowledge in my life... the only thing that comes close is people here at the Shroomery. Most 'old people' don't respect me much, they think I'm just another one of those 'damn teenagers'... I guess I do fit their stereotype in some ways, but it's sad that that stops them from having intelligent conversation with me. :frown: 


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Re: Aging and Western Society [Re: Adamist]
    #894114 - 09/19/02 06:57 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

I think the lack of REALLY old people at the Shroomery is only a result of the Internet's own youth. In twenty years, I'm sure there will be a few 65+ year-olds posting Tool lyrics and flaming FunkiFungi.


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Re: Aging and Western Society [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #894780 - 09/20/02 01:16 AM (19 years, 1 day ago)

lol

and albino_jesus... if that is so, then i please accept my appologies...


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Re: Aging and Western Society [Re: Swami]
    #897988 - 09/21/02 07:49 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with your statements.I feel that this is an American thing. How it came about, Im not sure. Like you mentioned, fashion and school segrgation. Also, I think this idea of phyiscal conditioning health and body image that permeates our society contributes to this dissociation.

In Europe, the mariiages that have 15 year differences are much more typical than the US. As you say, they recognize , or women may, that the compassion , understandin, and wisdom comes with age.

In eastern countries they elderly are revered.

i love europe, society is a society when different age groups are out and about doing the same thing. Routinely, in Spain, 40-50 year olds are in the same club as 21 year olds dancing their hearts out at 3 oclock in the morning.

When young people in our society go to a party and they feel , it is too old they quickly leave.

I agree and would also add that this is a very distructive phenomenom which is also contributing to the disolution of the nuclear family.....another societal calamity here in the good old USA>


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Re: Aging and Western Society [Re: llib]
    #897995 - 09/21/02 07:53 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

what's so great about the nuclear family?
I hardly even talk to my parents or see the rest of my family. it's great :smile:
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Re: Aging and Western Society [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #898012 - 09/21/02 07:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

print your post, and look at it when you are alone
and then imagine you are 65 and alone


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Re: Aging and Western Society [Re: llib]
    #898032 - 09/21/02 08:04 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

65 year olds are only alone because they don't have friends.
family isn't important in my view. family members can often be assholes, morons, selfish, etc. and unwilling to change. but if your family members can be your friends, then you've got something special. unfortunately none of mine can. and I see no reason to keep in close contact with someone because they are "blood", especially when they actually aren't.


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