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Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape?
    #8911092 - 09/11/08 06:43 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Title pretty much says it all, do pins look like little balls of mycelium before they take on a definite fruit body shape?


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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #8911128 - 09/11/08 06:57 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yes, those are knots and they will form into fruit bodies


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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: UncleMike]
    #8911233 - 09/11/08 07:39 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Ugh, No bueno!  :poop:  :poop:
This means I either let the pins rot in the jar or risk contams cutting off the uncolonized portion of the jar.

If you have pins, can you still spawn to bulk?


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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #8911262 - 09/11/08 08:00 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Yes little balls are knotting usually, which will then form into pins.

Im a little confused. More details pleased,

I gather that your jar stalled and you had to cut of the uncolininised portion. Pins wont rot in the jar, cutting of the uncolinised portion prevents contamination.


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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #8911273 - 09/11/08 08:08 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

here is a very early pin, juste between the knot and the fruit state...

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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: frozenjim]
    #8911284 - 09/11/08 08:11 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

That looks to big to be a knot, more like a ball of mycelium (possibly mutation)


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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #8911292 - 09/11/08 08:14 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

That looks to big to be a knot, more like a ball of mycelium (possibly mutation)

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Here's a few. The term you're looking for is hyphal knots. They grow into pins in a matter of days, sometimes hours.
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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #8911340 - 09/11/08 08:34 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

here is what it looks like today

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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #8911399 - 09/11/08 09:02 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Nope, all my jars(5) have decided to start pinning before fully colinized, and I was planning on spawning a few to bulk, and the rest as regular cakes. I need to know if I can:
1. Still spawn to bulk for the 2 I planned to bulk.
2. leave them in the jars until fully colonized.

Also---
A good mix for bulk is:
coir ~50%
peat ~50%
used coffee grinds until ~3.7% nitrogen
and some vermiculite
correct?


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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: frozenjim]
    #8911400 - 09/11/08 09:02 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

lol a monstor knot.


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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #8911423 - 09/11/08 09:10 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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alkylbenzene23 said:

Also---
A good mix for bulk is:
coir ~50%
peat ~50%
used coffee grinds until ~3.7% nitrogen
and some vermiculite
correct?




No peat in bulk substrates.  The other ingredients are fine.  If it's actually pinning before full colonization, it means the 'uncolonized' part is actually colonized by a competitor, probably bacteria.  Birth, wash under the faucet until all the uncolonized parts wash off, and then break up the mycelium into your pasteurized bulk substrate.
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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8911447 - 09/11/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly what i was looking for. An example of what causes early pinning.


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Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #8911855 - 09/11/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Well, the uncoloized areas are colonizing, the pinning is only in the oldest mycelium.
And, I am doing one of your no-no's RR... using big jars for BRF cakes. :\


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Re: Pins: little balls of Mycelium before proper shape? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #8914683 - 09/11/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I just noticed... a lot of the knots are in the "dry" verm layer.


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