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can someone answer this simple question?
    #8904796 - 09/10/08 12:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I want to know, when your jars are colonized and you case them into casings. then let them incubate for a few days until the mycelium pops through, once that happens you go ahead and patch correct?


    then you place them into the fruiting chamber and wait, right?
    what happens when alot of the mycelium pokes through the patch and rest of the casing and starts to knot up but that is all that happens... should i patch again? i am confused, this is the second week and all i see is the mycelium getting thicker now instead of the knots they are looking like trees... i just feel if i do not patch that its going to fail but i dont want the mycelium to work through that and use all the food it has doing this and then have crap flushes... can anyone ease my pain??


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: tony8404]
    #8904814 - 09/10/08 12:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

After you patch you may want to incubate them a little longer.  Few days or so. 

Sounds though like you might be getting overlay. 

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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: Dickhead]
    #8904876 - 09/10/08 01:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If you patch which I don't, you patch then fruit, no more incubating, just straight in the FC, so once myc is seen breaking through the surface after about 3 days after grain/sub being cased its time to patch and fruit, its as simple as that :wink:


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8904881 - 09/10/08 01:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8904945 - 09/10/08 01:30 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

believe me i know its as simple as that... that is why i am frustrated... i just checked them really good and i see one casing tray out of six has 3 pins starting but this is the one tray i have that i thought wasnt gonna make it cause it hardly has any mycelium poking through... the other have alot of mycelium poking through.. what would happen if i place more casing on the trays that have alot of mycelium?? also should i scratch the excess mycelium off with a fork?


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: tony8404]
    #8904962 - 09/10/08 01:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Dont do that to it mate, just let it fruit.


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: tony8404]
    #8904981 - 09/10/08 01:40 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

quick quiz, is this really bad overlay, or did i put a layer of spawn over my subtrate and not case?


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: LoveOverAll]
    #8905015 - 09/10/08 01:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That is not overlay, if you had overlay you would be like OMG WTF is this shit on my casing


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: tony8404]
    #8905050 - 09/10/08 01:58 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8905052 - 09/10/08 01:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

it was my first time, i put a casing layer on top my sub and left it there for 3 day before fruiting, when i seen it i was sure i t was overlay only to findout my casing layer was considerd a spawn. so if i knew at the time this was the case i would have added another "casing". but instead this is what you would call fruiting from spawn, am i right?


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: tony8404]
    #8905074 - 09/10/08 02:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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here are some pics 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/usergallery.php?gallery=145572&folder=




Looks like too much moisture and not enough FAE.


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8905081 - 09/10/08 02:06 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

okay, should i just lower my cool mist by half and leave the top part of the martha unzipped for a day then? what would you suggest?


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: LoveOverAll]
    #8905097 - 09/10/08 02:11 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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it was my first time, i put a casing layer on top my sub and left it there for 3 day before fruiting, when i seen it i was sure i t was overlay only to findout my casing layer was considerd a spawn. so if i knew at the time this was the case i would have added another "casing". but instead this is what you would call fruiting from spawn, am i right?




No, bad information, casing is a non nutritious layer which provides moisture and a nice climate for pin formation, which is usually Verm and Peatmoss but we also use coir which is nutritious but still works fine mixed with verm, If you cased you sub in colonised grain which is stupid, then yes its a spawn, but I doubt you done that, you didnt did you?


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: tony8404]
    #8905103 - 09/10/08 02:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I suggest fanning the shit out of it and give it a break with the misting if you are doing that.


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8905107 - 09/10/08 02:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yes, i along with half of the people here put a layer of casing (coir and verm mix) over thier substrate (colonized rye grain), man what were we thinking?


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: LoveOverAll]
    #8905125 - 09/10/08 02:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok well thats how misinformation can screw that many people...Juke and a crap load of others know that casings only provide a micro climate.  They should have no nutrients, if they do all you are doing is adding more sub.  Which will eventually fruit.  Yea I dont know what you were thinking.


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: LoveOverAll]
    #8905127 - 09/10/08 02:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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yes, i along with half of the people here put a layer of casing (coir and verm mix) over thier substrate (colonized rye grain), man what were we thinking?




That still works wonderful mate if not just as good But not if you know what I mean, just because some say dont do it, it does not mean you cant, I find coir/verm casing is just a little easier to fcuk up rather than peat/verm which seems to have more consistant results.


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8905128 - 09/10/08 02:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

lol i am fanning right now and have the entire martha unzipped .. and just turned the mist to its hardly letting anything in


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: tony8404]
    #8905139 - 09/10/08 02:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

don't stress too much about the mister, I meant actual direct misting with a misting bottle.


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Re: can someone answer this simple question? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8905174 - 09/10/08 02:32 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i see what ya mean... i thought there was too much water involved but didnt want to dry it out also i have to work on the martha for fae


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