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EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fuc... (UPDATE)
#8895419 - 09/08/08 09:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wasn't present. My friend took 2 pills of what he thought was Ecstasy (and maybe tainted with amphetamine, because he took it before and said it felt very speedy).
He ended up writing for 5 hours straight, and being unable to sleep for 20 hours. We all figured it was meth. But he wasn't just agitated and focused.. he was almost tripping. He was extremely confused, couldn't walk straight, flushed, very restless, depressed and kept asking philosophical questions. "Am I a prophet?" "Are you God?" "Nobody loves me..."
him: "How do I make this stop?" me: "The way you're feeling?" him: "No. just this"
He kept mentioning a shroomuasca trip he had a year ago, in which he took too much and tripped hard. He kept asking why we "left him alone" (we were just in another room).
I assumed it was E/meth withdrawal with sleep deprivation and gave him a mg of Ativan. It knocked him out and he slept for a few hours. Please note that I had to sneak Ativan into some milk.. because he thought I was poisoning him.
That was Saturday morning. Yesterday he was a lot better but still talked 'slow' as if he was tripping hard, couldn't walk too well, and was VERY depressed. He began crying on the phone, and I had to go over to his house for a few hours. He did everything slow, as if he was on shrooms. He would stare into space, zone out, talk nonsense, change subjects quickly, etc. I'm not even sure if he knew who I was exactly.
Later that night I found out he ended up calling his family and admitting his entire drug use history to them (they never suspected a thing before that).
He told me what happened to him at work. He asked his co-workers "how can you make people happy?" and told me stories like "I was in a store and a guy bought cigarettes. I wanted to help him but I didn't know how" and he found a $20 on the floor and gave it to some lady. Just weird schizophrenic moments. In hind sight I wish I had given him Zyprexa.
What the fuck did he take? It can't be JUST meth and/or E. I can see some E withdrawal from the negativity, but I would guess he was tripping except his pupils never really dilated much during the entire time, and he didn't mention visuals. He said he smoked some pot a few hours before, and just took 2 E pills by mouth, not crushed. Hasn't taking anything since.
has an appetite but can't really sleep. His mom flew in this morning. At first she suspected he was drunk, but I'm not sure what happened now that she knows what he's on. and this morning I can't get in touch with him.
He's in NYC - and has taken "E" pills from this dealer before (those stated above).. I can't get in touch with his dealer (dunno the #). If anyone knows anything circulating in the area, please mention it. I have no details on the pills.
He *might* have taken some other stuff before/after but if he did, he didn't say a word. But I'm pretty sure he had no access to psychedelics.
updates will be posted as replies and posted in this thread:
09/11/2008 UPDATE (Latest update)
Sigh. BAD NEWS... he woke up today (yes, he slept for 1-2 days straight) and he's not that much better. He's a little more coherent and he's faster mentally, but he can't do basic arithmetic (8x8 etc) and seems unable to understand or comprehend basic sentences. For example,
me: "when your mom gets here. Tell her you love her and you're sorry" him: "ok" me: "what are you gonna tell your mom when she gets here?" him: "that I forgive her" ... I repeat myself and ask him again ... him: "that I love her and forgive her"
etc..
Doctors aren't satisfied with his progress and he has been moved to the psych ward, and is expected to stay there for 5-6 days. That's all I have for now. This is tragic. He hasn't been on any meds, and AFAIK, there was nothing in his blood, so I'm not sure if he was abusing any drug for an extended period. I'm pretty sure he had some THC metabolites, since he smoked often last month, but all I heard was "nothing in his blood."
Antipsychotics should sort him out. Thanks for sharing your story, Login Name.
I think he will be fine eventually, but this is really tough on all of us, especially his family (family = single mom + grandmother, his an only child). On top of all this, he doesn't have insurance at the moment.. major problem. I suggest everybody have health insurance if you live in the US. I _really_ don't recommend doing anything risky without insurance. Shit DOES happen, to anyone. WATCH YOURSELF.
09/10/2008 UPDATE - BAD NEWS!
He's completely out of it. This is surreal.
These events happened before he went to the hospital. He wasn't just "acting weird" as some might think... he's completely out there and needed to be admitted.
I was told that the day before, when his family was crying, he did not display any sign of emotion, and said "I don't feel anything" when asked if he had any emotions about what was going on. He couldn't add 3+4, and had long (10 sec+) pauses between what he was saying. His sentences were also broken; Not connected. Each was on a completely different topic. This was early yesterday.
Later in the day, my bro walked in and he was in his boxers on the couch, staring straight ahead (at nothing), not making a sound or move. It looked as though he had no clue anybody walked in, or that anyone was around even. He was very unresponsive and paranoid. My bro (and prob his family) tried to give him a bath to try to get him "back." He was screaming and thought he was being baptized, and that he was being drowned.
He said "they're telling me to make a decision" and when asked "who" replied "the voices." But he also said "I'm making the voices" - without going into detail, he was detached from his thoughts. He thought they were voices, but knew he was the one constructing them.
also, my brother told me that when he was talking to him, he noticed that his pupils were constantly changing size - growing and shrinking. What would cause this? There were no dimming lights nearby. He did not sleep for 3 days straight, thinking that he will die if he fell asleep. He looked awful. This is the only not-so-bad news, which gives us a little hope that most of his symptoms are due to sleep deprivation.
He refused, but was just forced to go to the ER. In the ER he was unable to speak for himself. He didn't know where he was, and kept asking who "all these people" are. He didn't know where he was. He was unable to answer basic questions. Some he just didn't know, and others he was hesitant about (i.e., who's the current president? "... I think it's george bush") and he told the nurse "I'm in a loop."
After that, my bro "translated" between him and the nurse. His entire drug history was given to the nurse, from the mushrooms he ate years ago, to the joint he smoked on the roof last month. My bro was just honest about everything the nurse asked.
He thought that everybody in the waiting room was waiting for him, and kept asking when he could "wake up." He also asked if we "ever saw ourselves in 3rd person."
There's a bunch of other little moments like that, but eventually he was put on a stretcher and was getting his vitals/stats checked. Blood sugar, temperature, blood pressure, heart beat, and etc were OK. Physically he was fine. Then he was wheeled into a room to get his blood tested. We were told no medication would be administered before they find out what's in his blood (obvious), and that was it. His mom stayed with him, but nobody else was allowed (or maybe his mom just requested that.)
This was around 10 PM last night. I just woke up and there's really no way to contact him as of now. His mom doesn't want to see us (she didn't see us in the hospital. She went from work straight into his room, but anyway).
Schizophrenia normally doesn't pass on the father's line, but his dad was psychotic. I don't know much about his dad. His parents divorced when he was young. We're all riding on the hope that this is amphetamine psychosis or something else that can be cured.
It's surreal when this happens, because you read about these train wrecks on Erowid all the time, but there's always ways to justify those reports. "She was weak-willed, an addict," or "he didn't test the pills." This gives us a sense that this can't happen to us, but it does. You guys need to be careful.
Edited by Quake3 (09/11/08 08:02 PM)
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8895427 - 09/08/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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BTW he's not violent, nor aggressive, but he doesn't cooperate because he's suspicious of everything. Taking him to the hospital is impossible except if done against his will (by force). He truly believes he's a prophet and believes that if he "ends" the trip/effects, then he will not have accomplished his mission. A lot of this is just what I am piecing together. He isn't as fucked up as you might think from reading this.. physically most people will suspect he's depressed, lonely and/or just very tired. Those who've tripped can probably suspect he's on something.. and he sounds like he's very scared that he's losing his mind, but doesn't want to admit it.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8895450 - 09/08/08 09:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fuck street X dude it sounds like someone may have laced those pills with some scopolamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine
I once read a report that heroin in chicago was tested at one time and contained traces of it.
Or maybe he just snapped.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8895456 - 09/08/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats why i have never taken E. I'll stick to my lucy and mary j.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8895459 - 09/08/08 09:40 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Find out what they looked like, and tell me where you are from...Or you can visit this site yourself, and find out what was in them. It could have been a research chemical/other shit too.
He could have had an underlying illness, and he might have set it off. If thats the case, and he doesn't get better in a few days...Get him help.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: MHbound]
#8895471 - 09/08/08 09:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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i will never take e....
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: RedRainDrop]
#8895485 - 09/08/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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MDMA is great but street "E" is not to be trusted.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: 7734591202]
#8895517 - 09/08/08 09:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Honestly. If you're smart and test your pills or get molly I think doing Ecstasy is the BEST. But thats a pretty crazy story. Kinda scary...
Maybe he was unstable to begin with and some methbombs gave him a little psychosis.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: 7734591202]
#8895520 - 09/08/08 09:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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snap him out of it as quick as possible. that sounds kind of like how my friend got after a couple trips he had shortly spaced out. he wound up pretty skitzo, as in spending alot of time in mental hospitals over several years.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: 7734591202]
#8895522 - 09/08/08 09:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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North East, north america. But Pill Reports doesn't show anything too useful in this case, especially since I don't know anything about the pills. There's some PMA circulating around here but I dunno if this was it.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8895532 - 09/08/08 10:03 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a suspicion that he's been taking (supposed) E for awhile now, but I have no proof. I didn't rule out amphetamine psychosis, but going JUST on what he told me (having only taken 2 pills, and 2 pills about a month before), it doesn't sound like it can be MDMA/Amphetamine/Meth, since it has lasted too long.
PCP isn't rare here, but I dunno if this is it.. what do you guys think? Does it sound like orally ingested PCP? Maybe a mix of some drugs?
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8895546 - 09/08/08 10:08 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ive seen people who ate meth act like that
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: 7734591202]
#8895557 - 09/08/08 10:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
7734591202 said: Fuck street X dude it sounds like someone may have laced those pills with some scopolamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine
I once read a report that heroin in chicago was tested at one time and contained traces of it.
Or maybe he just snapped.
hmm.. I first suspected Datura, because he had some interest in it awhile back, but due to the fact that his pupils weren't dilated and he wasn't hallucinating (but that's according to him), He also didn't seem to have any memory loss. Knew who he was, where his home was, phone #s, etc..
but it does sound like some scopolamine was in the pills. I'm really not sure. Damn, this sucks.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: CptnGarden]
#8895558 - 09/08/08 10:13 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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PCP in ecstasy pills? I highly doubt it.
Most of the time when E is impure it contains small amounts of amphetamines and the rest is mostly caffine with a bit of MDMA. I've heard of Ketamine pills and 5-MEO-DMT being sold in pill form and being confused for ecstasy.
My last girlfriend popped some pills thinking they were E once and she got stuck in a K hole. The next time she took pills she thought they were E and she took some 5-MEO-DMT.
She was dumb though. NEVER tested her own pills. She would do anything when she was drunk "Woo! Pills! Lets get fucked up!"
Glad I got rid of that crazy bitch.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Sid]
#8895569 - 09/08/08 10:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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5-meo-dmt in pills wouldn't do much at all as i understand it. you have to snort an ungodly amount to get high, and its still not comparable to a tiny amount smoked.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Sid]
#8895595 - 09/08/08 10:25 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know. I was at a party, smoking a lung with some a friend and my buddy walks in:
"Dude. Um... you might want to go into the other room and check out your girl. I think Nick gave her some of those alien pills."
I think "Shit..."
She is sitting on the couch with a nearly empty bottle of goldshalger and I sit down with her and she says "That wasn't ecstasy I took." then she started talking gibberish for a while. I got pretty mad at my bro for giving the pills to her but he took them too and he seemed fine... he hadn't been drinking though.
In the end I got one of her girlfriends to take her home and put her to bed because she was pretty much incoherent.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: truekimbo2]
#8895609 - 09/08/08 10:29 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds like amphetamine psychosis based on the available evidence. That man needs some pills, contact his family and get him to a hospital. He's delusional right now, so he'll never consent to it.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: g00ru]
#8895634 - 09/08/08 10:35 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea get him some help. If he doesn't get it...The psychosis only worsens. He would eventually come out, but he would never be the same...Its likely he will never be the same again.
I saw it one time with this 30-35 year old guy. It was awful. He didn't get the help he needs, and now there is no way to stop his psychosis. It slowly gets worse no matter what is done. Once a large business owner now needs help caring for himself.
Do your friend a favor, and get him to the doctor/hospital. Let them dose him up on some stuff to try to stop it...Which they can, but he may be on this stuff the rest of his life.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: MHbound]
#8895724 - 09/08/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah and defintely make sure he isn't still drinking, smoking or doing other drugs.
this is very unscientific, but i think alot of us get similar moments under drugs. i think when people really decide to run with it is when they start getting fucked up. the sooner you can derail whatever train of thought he's on, the better his chance of just coming back to baseline is i think.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: truekimbo2]
#8895887 - 09/08/08 11:50 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I took 130mg of amphetamine (intranasal) i was young and stupid. Long story short i was up for three days, body was tired but brain wouldnt stop thinking and couldnt go to sleep. the third day of no sleep i started getting hallucinations and severe paranoia (of death), i ended up hitting up my pill dealer took an oxy 80 (with time release still intact.) Slept for 18 hours, woke up ate, slept for another 15 hours and then i was able to function again. WORST experience ever never doing amphets ever again. Anyway your friend sounds like hes experiencing something similar that happened to me.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8895961 - 09/08/08 12:12 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude that heavy shit man...sucks. But as someone who has injested a goodly amount of speedy subtances in a myriad of ways I dont think it was a amphet. Sounds like sleep deprivation except you said he was acting like he couldnt interpret actions ie "whyd yu leave me alone" and it kinda sounds like he has been dosing alot. GET HIME SOME ASS
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8896106 - 09/08/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea sounds similar to me, but I still think he has gone beyond where you went. He has entered severe psychosis it sounds like to me. Hallucinations are normal after being up for three days on amphet., but he has just lost his damn mind it sounds to me.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: truekimbo2]
#8896354 - 09/08/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
truekimbo2 said: yeah and defintely make sure he isn't still drinking, smoking or doing other drugs.
this is very unscientific, but i think alot of us get similar moments under drugs. i think when people really decide to run with it is when they start getting fucked up. the sooner you can derail whatever train of thought he's on, the better his chance of just coming back to baseline is i think.
Very wise post, I must say.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Abuse]
#8896610 - 09/08/08 02:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think it is the drugs still messing up your friend. I have heard of this before and it is extremely rare but not impossible. The effects of whatever he took where either so strong or so enlightening in some way or another that it altered his perception and the way he looked at his life. What one perceives is their reality; If I think I am a prophet and the sky is falling then it is. In all reality do any of us really know we are living a normal life or do the individuals we would label as crazy have it right after all. No, but seriously, if you can't get your friend to go see someone you need to tie him up or something. Sounds harsh but it would really help him in the long run.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: bootedboy]
#8896733 - 09/08/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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His friend has gone into a psychosis man...There is no way around it. He isn't getting any smarter. He's slowly slipping into a place that he could possibly be the rest of his life.
I think you might want to go see a doctor too. You aren't a prophet...If you really believe that I'll find you a local hospital.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: MHbound]
#8896876 - 09/08/08 03:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The man needs the help of medical professionals.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: MHbound]
#8896877 - 09/08/08 03:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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really interesting t mckenna video about insanity. i agree with much of it.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: g00ru]
#8897211 - 09/08/08 04:38 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow that mckenna video above is very interesting, i love mckenna he always make me think "wow" after i read his stuff.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8897872 - 09/08/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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No drug is going to have this effect on its own. Your friend is going through some deep personal issues, and is clearly in some way quite ill. There is no way you can attribute a week long bout of manic depression, incoherency, and completely uncharacteristic behavior to a bad pill or two.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Orbital_Saucer]
#8897931 - 09/08/08 06:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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once i took a little meth, and went crazy for 2 weeks, spoke to people that wernt there, being attacked by demons, people where trying to kill me. i got over it though after a few weeks of no drugs. btw i have underlying skizofrenia/paranoia/manic depression from my grandmothers/fathers.
my advice is to give it time, and valium, valium worked wonders on me at that time of my life. i was like a completely different person it was said my eyes where psychotic and raged out, doctors injected me with some valium and i came back to peace. almost like i snapped back to myself. went on meds for a few months went off and kept doing drugs and im still fine 3 years later. so dont think he's going to be fucked for life. hopefully he gets some sleep and comes 2 soon.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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shit's real.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: BEEP]
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Scary stuff. Ever since I had a panic attack in the aftermath of a roll I've been really wary of those pills. I know meth can fuck with some people's heads pretty bad so that might be it, but either way you should really get this guy to a therapist ASAP. He would probably benefit greatly from some professional help, whether that's simply some catharsis or some pills to level him out.
And be there for him as much as you can. I can't imagine there's anything more terrifying than feeling unable to trust your own mind. He needs his friends to look out for him right now.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
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Ugh... this is a very chilling reminder of an incident involving my former best friend
He took a lot more LSA than i reccomended, and ended up exactly like what you decribe for about 3 weeks, then he moved back in with his mum and decided he hated me
He was spaced out, very depressed, delusional and had all these irrational conspiricy theories, also he described horrible events from his childhood to me (im not sure how true they were tho... he had a tendancy to lie a lot)
Now (about 4or 5 months later), he is on anti depressants, and occasionally calls me, and seems fairly normal (if you could call the way people behave when they are on anti-depressants normal)
Its a very difficult situation to deal with... just be the best friend you can
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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dont tie him up that was the worst idea ever. he will start to do damage to himself trying to get out and he will feel constricted and freak out and kill who ever tied him up because they are tryin to keep the prophet from doin his mission.
WHY HAVENT YOU TAKEN HIM TO THE FUCKING ER NOW!!!!! THIS IS EXTREMLY SEAREOUS IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS GUY AS A FRIEND DO WHAT THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND SAVE YOUR FUCKING FRIENDS LIFE. IT IS EXTREMLY IMMATURE TO NOT TAKE HIM TO MEDICAL CARE NOW!!!!! I SWEAR I WANNA REACH OUT AND DRAG HIM THERE WHAT EVER IT TAKES YOU CANT HELP HIM, YOUR NOT A DOCTOR, AND PEOPLE HERE CANT GIVE YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND THEY CANT TREAT HIM. I DONT THINK THERE ARE ANY MD's ON HERE AND EVEN IF THERE WAS THEY CANT EXAMIN HIM IN PERSON. GOT TO THE HOSPITAL ALL OF THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE BEEN SAYIN IT!
GO THIS SECOND!!!
I HAD THIS HAPPEN TO A RELATIVE AND NO ONE EVER GOT HIM HELP AND NOW HE IS COMPLETLY GONE! DONT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!
GO TO THE MOTHER FUCKIN HOSPITAL!!!!!
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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IF YOU CANT GET HIM IN THE CAR CALL FUCKING 911 GET AN AMBULANCE THEY CAN SEDATE HIM A LITTLE BIT AND GET HIM THE HELP HE NEED!!!!
AHH THIS IS DRIVIN ME CRAZY ITS LIKE RE-WATCHIN WHAT HAPPEND TO SOMEONE CLOSE TO ME!
AND WHEN YOU GET BACK POST ON HERE TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS GOIN ON IN HIS HEAD.
PLEASE GO AND SAVE YOU FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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Mushr00m_Man said: dont time him up that was the worst idea ever. he will start to do damage to himself trying to get out and he will feel constricted and freak out and kill who ever tied him up because they are tryin to keep the prophet from doin his mission.
WHY HAVENT YOU TAKEN HIM TO THE FUCKING ER NOW!!!!! THIS IS EXTREMLY SEAREOUS IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS GUY AS A FRIEND DO WHAT THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND SAVE YOUR FUCKING FRIENDS LIFE. IT IS EXTREMLY IMMATURE TO NOT TAKE HIM TO MEDICAL CARE NOW!!!!! I SWEAR I WANNA REACH OUT AND DRAG HIM THERE WHAT EVER IT TAKES YOU CANT HELP HIM, YOUR NOT A DOCTOR, AND PEOPLE HERE CANT GIVE YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND THEY CANT TREAT HIM. I DONT THINK THERE ARE ANY MD's ON HERE AND EVEN IF THERE WAS THEY CANT EXAMIN HIM IN PERSON. GOT TO THE HOSPITAL ALL OF THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE BEEN SAYIN IT!
GO THIS SECOND!!!
I HAD THIS HAPPEN TO A RELATIVE AND NO ONE EVER GOT HIM HELP AND NOW HE IS COMPLETLY GONE! DONT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!
GO TO THE MOTHER FUCKIN HOSPITAL!!!!!
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OP, stop dicking around and do what must be done before things get worse. Don't try to dance around the issues; take him to a doctor or a psychiatrist and explain exactly what happened. Do it NOW. That's all there is to it. If I ever break my brain with drugs I pray to God my friends will take the appropriate action, namely getting some fucking professional help.
You can't get in trouble with the law for going to a doctor or a hospital for an issue involving illegal drugs. So just help your friend. Right now.
And keep us updated.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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THE LAW CANT DO ANYTHING TO YOU AND IF I WAS FRIED AND MY FRIENDS GOT ME HELP AND I GOT IN TROUBLE IT WOULD BE THE NICEST THING THEY EVER DID FOR ME ITS EXTREMLY YO GO RIGHT THIS SECOND!!!!
i sent this guy a pm and told him about when this happend to my aunt in an attempt to put a guilt fire under his ass to get his friend help.
here this is the pm i sent:
"CALL AN AMBULANCE RIGHT THIS SECOND!!!!1 YOUR FRIEND IS GOING TO BE FUCKED FOR EVER IF YOU DONT TAKE ACTION!
I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS WITH MY AUNT. SHE HAD DONE SOME TYPE OF XTC AND SHE IS COMPLETLY SKITZO BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD PASS IN TIME. IT DOESNT PASS THE OPPOSITE HAPPENS IT GET WAY FUKING WORSE.
PLEASE PLEASE SAVE YOUR FUCKING FRIEND DO IT FOR HIM!! I DONT WANT YOU TO GO THROUGH WHAT I DID AFTER MY AUNT WAS COMPLETLY INSANE I ONLY FELT REGRET AND I WISH I COULD GO BACK AND DO IT DIFFERENT DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES I MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8898322 - 09/08/08 07:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could very well just be speed/meth. I had speed once, I couldn't sleep, and I thought I was dying the next day. Crying in the shower, feeling like I need to hurl, shivering, hallucinating a bit. Never touched it again, and that was .1g!
If he's anything like me, and got Meth. No wonder he's fucked up.
As Truekimbo2 said, get him to a hospital. I also think, the longer he stays in that state, the harder it will be to get him back.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: polantis]
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i hope the reason he isnt posting is because he is saveing his friends life
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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as strange as it sounds, this has happened to me, but in a good way.
I had to fight to keep it positive because I knew there was a dark side to my schizophrenic/typal thoughts and theories in the months after.
I saw the dark and it was scary.
My paranoia was not all about questioning the people around me, although there was a bit of that and I learned alot of very real things. Nobody noticed anything, because I acted normal. The paranoia was more about being skeptical of reality in general. So I learned alot. Started re-reading about everything from physics to neurology etc to try to piece my mind back together in a safe way. I purposely forgot some things because they seemed too unsafe for me to persue. I would have to find out more about them and I was afraid the entire world would fall apart if what I was experiencing was real.
Its the real shit that frightened me. Things I dont care to repeat. No god complex. I wouldnt really call it that anyways.
I was able to help myself to get the best of it and shut out the things that toyed with my existence and threatened to get bigger, better, and more real. Some people cant though because its less analytical for them and far more severe.
It was actually the best thing that ever happened to me. Thanks years of psychedelic use, a schizophrenic family history, and lastly, the ayahuasca that taught me so much for months to the point where I had to stop listening for my own safety and mental health.
The person we are all so worried about in this thread though, does need help. I understand how this happens, and its really hard especially if you lack direction when trying to slip back into your new self.
It can get really bad, and if you are conscious enough about how this works during important times, you know that you have to decide what you want to keep and what you need to forget.
I dont think the person in question has this ability due to the severity of the situation.
Help your friend.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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im sry to go off topic
but they do put 5-meo in pills it can even put onto blotter but a big peice o blotter, coaster made a thread about it a while back he has a pic of it too and has experience tripping on it. i am pretty sure that it isnt it but had to share to get rid of rumors people hear
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8898413 - 09/08/08 08:12 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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It was probably just some "good" old-fashioned dirty methed-out street ecstasy.
I know I had an existential crisis lasting several months that was precipitated by two pills of E. It was awful. The first week was really touch-and-go, I felt like mankind was a sickness and like we were living death. I felt like I was in hell, I had a panic attack, and it wasn't until very recently that I stopped having random feelings of existential anxiety, random fear of death. Driving across a bridge for example was awful, knowing a flick of my wrist could destroy everything. I had to develop a set of three mantras which would banish senseless anxiety.
I was really afraid I was losing my mind for a while. It was never bad enough to actually go and get help, but it was scary as FUCK.
I think the DOC I took a few nights ago might have actually helped me, bizarre though it may sound. Last night when I finally came down off it all the way, I realized I had absolutely nothing to be afraid of, and for the first time in quite a while I peacefully went to sleep without having to be intoxicated. Felt like a physiological change had taken place within my brain and finally had peace from all that meaningless doubt. Things were finally still inside, they have been today, and I can only hope they stay that way.
I think I understand how your friend feels OP. I think I went through the same type of thing. It also sounds like he's having a much harder time with it than I did, and I was on the verge of looking for a shrink the whole time.
But no, ecstasy feels fantastic and it's got interesting psychedelic properties, but it can REALLY mess up your head, especially when combined with meth. It's much more dangerous than most people seem to believe. I wouldn't be surprised if most RCs were actually safer. It seems to fuck the living shit out of your entire limbic system.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: yageman]
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yageman said: as strange as it sounds, this has happened to me, but in a good way.
I had to fight to keep it positive because I knew there was a dark side to my schizophrenic/typal thoughts and theories in the months after.
I saw the dark and it was scary.
My paranoia was not all about questioning the people around me, although there was a bit of that and I learned alot of very real things. Nobody noticed anything, because I acted normal. The paranoia was more about being skeptical of reality in general. So I learned alot. Started re-reading about everything from physics to neurology etc to try to piece my mind back together in a safe way. I purposely forgot some things because they seemed too unsafe for me to persue. I would have to find out more about them and I was afraid the entire world would fall apart if what I was experiencing was real.
Its the real shit that frightened me. Things I dont care to repeat. No god complex. I wouldnt really call it that anyways.
I was able to help myself to get the best of it and shut out the things that toyed with my existence and threatened to get bigger, better, and more real. Some people cant though because its less analytical for them and far more severe.
It was actually the best thing that ever happened to me. Thanks years of psychedelic use, a schizophrenic family history, and lastly, the ayahuasca that taught me so much for months to the point where I had to stop listening for my own safety and mental health.
The person we are all so worried about in this thread though, does need help. I understand how this happens, and its really hard especially if you lack direction when trying to slip back into your new self.
It can get really bad, and if you are conscious enough about how this works during important times, you know that you have to decide what you want to keep and what you need to forget.
I dont think the person in question has this ability due to the severity of the situation.
Help your friend.
Wow yageman.
This happened to me after a very over intense shroom trip nothing egotistical quite the opposite just complete ego loss I didn't trust anything I knew anymore so I did away with it.
I had to rethink everything and was out of it for a long long time just thinking nonstop. It took me a few years to get back to normal.
It's weird I wasn't sure if this happened to anyone else I always thought it was maybe a special case with me and I couldnt talk about it with anyone I know so how could I think otherwise. It's just cool to find out this happened to you as well that is all.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: 7734591202]
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that video guru posted got me thinking deeper into it.
what is the explanation of how this happens to your brain? does anybody have vid or txt on it?
neurology... hmm.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: large_dose]
#8898610 - 09/08/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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simple it confuses your sensors and receptors in the brain and it takes a while sometimes for people to rewire so to speak and the guy who took the 2 hits of E is a little to gone to do the rewireing him self and he needs medical professionals. sry about all of the metaphors
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: large_dose]
#8898666 - 09/08/08 08:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's not necessarily chemical although it begins that way.
It's just seeing things from another perspective and even when you sober up it can continue to fuck with you.
I just saw that all of my thoughts and all of my ideas were not my own but what I was taught and what I had picked up from others.
I realized this in a way that this seemed the only real thing I knew and it was so it became my reality that my brain was nothing more than a mechanism and a delusional one at that.
And this idea was so bright and intense that it burnt into my head and I couldn't get passed it.
I still acknowledge it as the only real truth but have learned to accept it.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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i know that, i want logic behind it.
sensors, receptors? come on man.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: 7734591202]
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It also happened to my tripping buddy, but it was far more out of control and emotional. He contemplated killing himself. He cried with me. He was so sad and happy that it hurt him. Nothing like what happened to me, but the same thing in a way. He is just not the same kind of psychology/physics/fractal nerd that I am. So it manifested in a different way. My experience was far more analytical. His was mostly emotional. He was frightened about his new found awareness that had little or nothing to do with the awareness my weird ass uncovered. I helped him. It was not so bad for him, he got over it. It was 5 grams of shrooms. In his case, he handled it on his own. He did a bad job. He didnt know what he was doing and didnt talk about it enough. To this day, IMO, my best friend is fucked in the head. Its really sad.
He wont go to a movie during the night time because there are too many people there. He hates to drive. He shuts himself off to the rest of the world because he knows what will happen if he doesnt. He will have to get real with himself and others.
Repression was his key. I hate it but he would hate me forever if I talked to him about it. Funny thing is, we are still best friends. He is fun to be around until he smokes too much weed, or drinks too much. Then he becomes a zombie that cares not what is going on around him. He was never very articulate. I wish he had been. maybe I could have helped this smart friend of mine. My best friend.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: yageman]
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and that receptor thin is true thats why you get visuals because the chemical confuses the optical nerve receptor in your brain and when somthing it changed in the brain it isnt easy to fix and that is what can cause the hppd that some of the people in this thread have
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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i am still very concernd with the original post. i wonder what is goin on?
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8898817 - 09/08/08 09:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are not for everyone
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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Mushr00m_Man said: and that receptor thin is true thats why you get visuals because the chemical confuses the optical nerve receptor in your brain and when somthing it changed in the brain it isnt easy to fix and that is what can cause the hppd that some of the people in this thread have
It may in your words confuse the nerve receptors.
What I am concerned with is what it reveals.
There is a reason for synesthesia, amazingly complex fractal patterns etc. Neither of which your info actually sheds any light on.
Its the underlying order to consciousness that im concerned about.
The order and interconnectedness is the reason visuals appear the way they do. An idea that is connected to schizophrenic tendencies. Its what you choose or cant help believe in that is the issue here.
When I take a psychedelic, I see complex psychedelic order, not nerve confusion. No matter how crazy it gets. Its a bi-pass mechanism, not a fool that scrambles your brain.
Im just saying that visuals are a whole hell of alot more complex than what you just claimed them to be. Visuals can be tactile, audio, cognitive, and a mix of unimaginable proportions.
Interwoven. Not confusion.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: yageman]
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its showin you that because it doesnt know what the fuck is goin on im not sayin you are confused but the receptors fire all crazy and chemicals are released like when you are happy while trippin you are really happy and wen you scared you are horrified it amplifies it to and its hard for the brain to readjust
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8898872 - 09/08/08 09:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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and this is fact mixed in with a little theory sry im bein so confusing
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
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Ya, Its hard for a guy like you to explain yourself.
I can see that.
The nerves are getting new signals.
They are tripping right along side you.
you dont confuse me. you amuse me.
Its one hell of a subject. There are different ways to approach it.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8898977 - 09/08/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushr00m_Man said: dont tie him up that was the worst idea ever. he will start to do damage to himself trying to get out and he will feel constricted and freak out and kill who ever tied him up because they are tryin to keep the prophet from doin his mission.
WHY HAVENT YOU TAKEN HIM TO THE FUCKING ER NOW!!!!! THIS IS EXTREMLY SEAREOUS IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS GUY AS A FRIEND DO WHAT THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND SAVE YOUR FUCKING FRIENDS LIFE. IT IS EXTREMLY IMMATURE TO NOT TAKE HIM TO MEDICAL CARE NOW!!!!! I SWEAR I WANNA REACH OUT AND DRAG HIM THERE WHAT EVER IT TAKES YOU CANT HELP HIM, YOUR NOT A DOCTOR, AND PEOPLE HERE CANT GIVE YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND THEY CANT TREAT HIM. I DONT THINK THERE ARE ANY MD's ON HERE AND EVEN IF THERE WAS THEY CANT EXAMIN HIM IN PERSON. GOT TO THE HOSPITAL ALL OF THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE BEEN SAYIN IT!
GO THIS SECOND!!!
I HAD THIS HAPPEN TO A RELATIVE AND NO ONE EVER GOT HIM HELP AND NOW HE IS COMPLETLY GONE! DONT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!
GO TO THE MOTHER FUCKIN HOSPITAL!!!!!
yeah don't tie him up, but also don't force him to go to the hospital, hospitals can be pretty shitty if you don't want to be there.
talk to him calmy and rationally as possible, and at some point you might be able to convince him he needs to relax, explain to him how the hospital is very safe and relaxing.
also, are you sure you don't mean 5-meo-amt? not 5-meo-dmt.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8899081 - 09/08/08 10:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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It sounds like a heavy dose of 2ce. He needs some benzo's to come down and get some sleep.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: gratetrip]
#8899100 - 09/08/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I doubt it. A heavy dose of 2C-E would be very very visual, but would be unlikely to cause psychosis. You're right though anything sleep inducing would be good.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8899126 - 09/08/08 10:15 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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get him some Seroquel from somewhere
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: 7734591202]
#8899183 - 09/08/08 10:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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yageman said: as strange as it sounds, this has happened to me, but in a good way.
I had to fight to keep it positive because I knew there was a dark side to my schizophrenic/typal thoughts and theories in the months after.
I saw the dark and it was scary.
My paranoia was not all about questioning the people around me, although there was a bit of that and I learned alot of very real things. Nobody noticed anything, because I acted normal. The paranoia was more about being skeptical of reality in general. So I learned alot. Started re-reading about everything from physics to neurology etc to try to piece my mind back together in a safe way. I purposely forgot some things because they seemed too unsafe for me to persue. I would have to find out more about them and I was afraid the entire world would fall apart if what I was experiencing was real.
Its the real shit that frightened me. Things I dont care to repeat. No god complex. I wouldnt really call it that anyways.
I was able to help myself to get the best of it and shut out the things that toyed with my existence and threatened to get bigger, better, and more real. Some people cant though because its less analytical for them and far more severe.
It was actually the best thing that ever happened to me. Thanks years of psychedelic use, a schizophrenic family history, and lastly, the ayahuasca that taught me so much for months to the point where I had to stop listening for my own safety and mental health.
The person we are all so worried about in this thread though, does need help. I understand how this happens, and its really hard especially if you lack direction when trying to slip back into your new self.
It can get really bad, and if you are conscious enough about how this works during important times, you know that you have to decide what you want to keep and what you need to forget.
I dont think the person in question has this ability due to the severity of the situation.
Help your friend.
Wow yageman.
This happened to me after a very over intense shroom trip nothing egotistical quite the opposite just complete ego loss I didn't trust anything I knew anymore so I did away with it.
I had to rethink everything and was out of it for a long long time just thinking nonstop. It took me a few years to get back to normal.
It's weird I wasn't sure if this happened to anyone else I always thought it was maybe a special case with me and I couldnt talk about it with anyone I know so how could I think otherwise. It's just cool to find out this happened to you as well that is all.
You aren't alone at all. I too have a family history of schizophrenia, and I know it has manifested itself in me in some form. Like Yageman, I am very analytical, and this is the way in which my "rabbit hole" has both appeared and been dealt with. I find the only thing to do in a situation like that is to take it head on, and trust in my own logic. It's worked out fine so far, I've been able to 100% incorporate the schizophrenic type thought processes that psychedelics have created into my life.
That isn't to say I didn't have a stressful few months after I dosed about 5 grams alone in my bedroom though...glad that's over
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: g00ru]
#8899294 - 09/08/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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2CE may be unlikely to cause psychosis, but not bring out schitzophrenia...I can't spell it so what.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: g00ru]
#8899297 - 09/08/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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GET HI TO A HOSPITAL AND HIS FEAR IS COMPLETLY INSANE AND HE NEEDS TO BE AT A PLACE THE CAN EVALUTATE WHAT IS GOIN WRONG AND TRY TO TREAT IT IFF POSSIBLE. AND ANOTHER PRESSING ISSUE IS THAT THE NEED TO GET SOME BLOOD TO SEE WHAT IT IS THAT PUT HIM IN THE PSYCOSIS AND TRY TO TREAT HIM. AND IS IS UNBELIEVABL STUPID TO START GIVIN MORE DRUGS HIS BRAIN IS PRETTY GONE HE MAY REACT BADLY.
THE MOST MATURE AND RESPOSIBLE THING WOULD BE THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST PLACE! THAT CAN SEDATE AND REDUSE SOME OF THAT FEAR THE HOSPITAL IS THE ONLY PLACE THIS GUY SHOULD BE HEADED. AND WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN SHIFTY IT A PLACE WER ONLY GOOD CAN COME OUT UNLESS THE FUCK UP THE OPERATION. THERE IS NO WAITING GO !!! ARE YOU ACTUAL SAYIN DONT GO TO THE HOSPITAL IF YOU DONT WANA. THAT IS BULLSHIT HE DOESNT WANT TO GO BECAUSE HE IS INSANE AND NOT IN HIS RIGHT MIND HOSPITAL #1 GOT TO ER
WEN I GUY CLAIMS TO BE A PROPHET AND IS ASKIN YOU WEIRD QUESTIONS AND LOOKIN CONFUSED BUT HE IS AFFRAID OF HOSPITALS. NO SHIT HE IS OUT OF HI MIND AND THE HOSP. IS THE ONLY PLACE TO DO WHAT IS NEEDED HOSPITAL IS THE BEST PLACE FOR HIM
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8899348 - 09/08/08 10:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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okay dude chill on the caps it makes you look retarded
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: g00ru]
#8899360 - 09/08/08 10:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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SRY MY KET BOARD IS BROKEN IT GOEs IN anD OUT AS I TYPE CHANGIN FONT SRY
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8899364 - 09/08/08 11:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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hahaha sorry dude I didn't know. I thought you were just freaking out with the importance of your message lol.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: g00ru]
#8899390 - 09/08/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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NO IT WONT GO BACK TO NORMAL LOWERCASE IF IT DOES IT POPS IN AND 0UT IF I WAS TYPI AN IMPORTANCE TO IT I WOULD BOLD IT AND UNDERLINE IT A MAKE IT AN EERIE COLOR OR SOMTHIN
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8899805 - 09/09/08 12:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I hope the capslock doesn't cloud the very reasonable message you've been trying to send.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#8899844 - 09/09/08 12:29 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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hahaha I wANt TO HEAR AN UPDATE ON THE GUY I AM ASSUMING HE SAW ALL OF MY GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE AND HELP YOU FRIEND AND DID THE RIGHT THING.
WEN I HOLD CAPLOCK DOWN IT RANDOMLY CHOOSES AN UPPER CASE OR LOWER CASE LETTER
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8899940 - 09/09/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is rarely heard of, is this kid depressed, or suffering from some kind of mental illness. He is displaying schizophrenic symptoms. My guess is amphetamine/methamphetamine psychosis (similar to schizo). Especially since he took alleged methylenedioxymethylamphatamine.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8900569 - 09/09/08 05:19 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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MUSHROOM MAN MAY BE TIME FOR A NEW KEYBOARD? IT DOES LOOK PRETTY FUCKING INTENSE WITH THE CAPS
I'm sure the O.P. will post back. If it's anything like the psych system here it could take a while.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8900570 - 09/09/08 05:20 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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WHAT HOLOGRAM DID THE E HAVE ON IT?
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8901176 - 09/09/08 09:41 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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could be paramethoxyamphetamine
-------------------- But Jimi was feeling good - he'd shared some LSD with a friend, Herbert Worthington, who sat and watched him from the side: 'Jimi started singing "Spanish Castle Magic" and I was high, I was so happy, probably one of the happiest times of my life, being with an Angel [Jimi] and having a woman on each arm. I just went into an LSD laugh.' Jimi looked over to Herbert, realised that he too was peaking out on acid, tried to say something to Herbie, but it wouldn't come out. - Jimi Hendrix "Electric Gypsy"
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: methoxy]
#8902270 - 09/09/08 02:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the concern, guys. And your PM was touching, Mushr00m_Man.
There's really not much news, and nothing positive about the little I know. His mom is glad he told her everything, but is weary of his friends (us) and at the moment there's no way to contact him nor his mom (she's probably not allowing it).
I saw him online some hours ago and asked how he's feeling. He just said "what do you want" (after a 5 minute pause). Not something he'd normally ever say, even if he was angry.
That's all I got out of him. I don't know where he is, but I did put in a word to his cousin (he can reach the friend and his family) to get him to a hospital ASAP and about the seriousness of it all.
He gave me this dealer's # once but it no longer works, though he probably wouldn't know what he's selling.
He has always been withdrawn and "shy" but not really anti-social. He socialized fine if he knew you, but probably had a hard time meeting new people. But he was outgoing and socialized with 'us' often. He joked about being amotivational, but it wasn't out of the ordinary.. he did fine in life. he's going to graduate school in a semester, works, etc...
He would have taken uppers because he wanted to get work done. I mentioned it before but he knew the pills were tainted with SOME sort of speed. When he took the two pills on Friday, he was writing a deep science fiction story and *I think* finishing the story was the only reason he took them. The story plays a big role in what he's saying, as if he's starting to believe it's fiction or some sort of revelation.
But he's not as "crazy" as he sounds from my posts. He's aware that thinking he's a prophet is probably irrational. He's not going around screaming it, and he knows that there are consequences to telling people this so he keeps it to himself (and to very close friends). He sounds like he's trying to make sense of everything, putting the pieces back together, as you guys mentioned. He sounds and acts very similar to this when he's on mushrooms, if he takes a high dose, but it doesn't last for more than ~6-8 hours.. which is my concern in this case. 4 days?!
I'm waiting for a call from his cousin to give me an update. Not much more I can do.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8902509 - 09/09/08 02:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats terrible. I hope he turns out ok. The little bit you said there kind of sounds like he possibly had some other mental things going on...Which could have been masking the real illness he has. I'm not saying he does, but it is possible that he has some type of Manic/Depressive or schitzo. Which if these are treated he will be fine. He could even come out of this fine, but 4 days kind of makes you wonder.
Cold medicine has been used. DXM...I have heard of extremely high doses doing this before. I wonder if that combined with the speed that was probably in it caused this. If so he could end up fine.
Let us know what you find out.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: MHbound]
#8902698 - 09/09/08 03:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ya man you did a good thing
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8903429 - 09/09/08 06:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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He's being signed in at the ER as we speak.
I dunno about DXM. I thought about that but DXM would mess him up way more I think.. slurred speech, gait imbalance, etc..
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8903672 - 09/09/08 06:52 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's good to hear at least.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: g00ru]
#8903715 - 09/09/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: bryguy27007]
#8904801 - 09/09/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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wierd, i went to the ER after 4 days i dosed too. they'll probably give him drugs if he is still freaking out, i was still wacko for a few weeks tho, but you can always heal. don't give up hope man.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: 7734591202]
#8905000 - 09/09/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Same thing happened to me..... but then I started studying zen buddhism and realized that this is really somewhat similar to the kensho or satori moments of unity, oneness, selflessness, egolessness, and one-and-the-sameness with the Universe that you believe that you are forever stuck in. Is reality real? Am I different than you? Existentially, sure. Fundamentally? Absolutely not.
Which is the one that matters?
And which of us is truly normal? Knows more? Is Free?
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Patisotagami]
#8905046 - 09/09/08 11:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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oh thats great news keep us updated.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8905099 - 09/10/08 12:11 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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To be honest I was beginning to doubt in OP's last post or so that this guy actually needs medical help...
I've been here before. I didn't have anybody watching over me saying "this guy is acting weird, he needs help," but I turned out all right.
I hope the doctors don't fuck his brain up even worse.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#8905454 - 09/10/08 03:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Crazy thread. I only read pages 1 and 5 because I am gizzzzonnnneeee at the moment but yeah, that street shit is no good. The only proper way to produce E is to ejaculate into a capsule while tripping balls and dry that shit crusty. This is a true story.
But seriously, that sucks. Hope your friend comes out cool man... nobody deserves psychosis. I wouldn't worry about doctors making it worse. He obviously wasn't getting through it without them.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8905461 - 09/10/08 03:47 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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i recently came upon a dozen pills giving very simular effects. when i took 2 i ended up getting very confused and ive been trying to figure out what was in them since.
it took 2 hours before anything was noticeable and was much more visual than MDMA, but felt very similar. it really kicked in after 5 hours and i was tripping hard. my girlfriend was on the same dose and was feeling the same. everything moving and twisting, not as full on as mushrooms or acid but similar. at this point i felt wonderful, this lasted a good 5 hours before we crashed, felt absolutly horrid and still tripping for... oh a good 20 hours after. couldnt sleep at all. my girlfriend and i stayed up staring at the fuzzy ceiling trying to make it stop.
we were dead the next 2 days. my body was sore, i was completely out of sorts. after effects lasted a week or so. it was very shitty.
im guessing that what i got was MDA + meth. and i think 2 pills was too much. ive taken 1 pill of them and it still had a bad next day but it was much more enjoyable.
my pills were a Yellow shooting star (Bape) green domed pill with LaX on one side and an airplane on the other
the amp psychosis could definatly be part of it. my pills felt like they had alot of meth in them.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Enothe]
#8905546 - 09/10/08 05:02 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know that the red stars have a lot of 2c-i in them. Other than that I couldn't tell ya much about whats in these pills.
You should invest in an eztest kit. They made my world of pills much safer.
EZ Test
Hope your friend recovers through for real. I've seen some fucked up shit come out due to a trip. There's a girl that used to be close to all of my friends. Smart girl. College bound straight A student that did acid and X for the past year and can't hold an intelligent conversation now. She jumps topic to topic and asks questions that don't make any sense.
I've seen some crazy things happen with excessive drug abuse. You gotta know when to stop sometimes.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8905655 - 09/10/08 06:10 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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BAD NEWS!
He's completely out of it. This is surreal.
These events happened before he went to the hospital. He wasn't just "acting weird" as some might think... he's completely out there and needed to be admitted.
I was told that the day before, when his family was crying, he did not display any sign of emotion, and said "I don't feel anything" when asked if he had any emotions about what was going on. He couldn't add 3+4, and had long (10 sec+) pauses between what he was saying. His sentences were also broken; Not connected. Each was on a completely different topic. This was early yesterday.
Later in the day, my bro walked in and he was in his boxers on the couch, staring straight ahead (at nothing), not making a sound or move. It looked as though he had no clue anybody walked in, or that anyone was around even. He was very unresponsive and paranoid. My bro (and prob his family) tried to give him a bath to try to get him "back." He was screaming and thought he was being baptized, and that he was being drowned.
He said "they're telling me to make a decision" and when asked "who" replied "the voices." But he also said "I'm making the voices" - without going into detail, he was detached from his thoughts. He thought they were voices, but knew he was the one constructing them.
also, my brother told me that when he was talking to him, he noticed that his pupils were constantly changing size - growing and shrinking. What would cause this? There were no dimming lights nearby. He did not sleep for 3 days straight, thinking that he will die if he fell asleep. He looked awful. This is the only not-so-bad news, which gives us a little hope that most of his symptoms are due to sleep deprivation.
He refused, but was just forced to go to the ER. In the ER he was unable to speak for himself. He didn't know where he was, and kept asking who "all these people" are. He didn't know where he was. He was unable to answer basic questions. Some he just didn't know, and others he was hesitant about (i.e., who's the current president? "... I think it's george bush") and he told the nurse "I'm in a loop."
After that, my bro "translated" between him and the nurse. His entire drug history was given to the nurse, from the mushrooms he ate years ago, to the joint he smoked on the roof last month. My bro was just honest about everything the nurse asked.
He thought that everybody in the waiting room was waiting for him, and kept asking when he could "wake up." He also asked if we "ever saw ourselves in 3rd person."
There's a bunch of other little moments like that, but eventually he was put on a stretcher and was getting his vitals/stats checked. Blood sugar, temperature, blood pressure, heart beat, and etc were OK. Physically he was fine. Then he was wheeled into a room to get his blood tested. We were told no medication would be administered before they find out what's in his blood (obvious), and that was it. His mom stayed with him, but nobody else was allowed (or maybe his mom just requested that.)
This was around 10 PM last night. I just woke up and there's really no way to contact him as of now. His mom doesn't want to see us (she didn't see us in the hospital. She went from work straight into his room, but anyway).
Schizophrenia normally doesn't pass on the father's line, but his dad was psychotic. I don't know much about his dad. His parents divorced when he was young. We're all riding on the hope that this is amphetamine psychosis or something else that can be cured.
It's surreal when this happens, because you read about these train wrecks on Erowid all the time, but there's always ways to justify those reports. "She was weak-willed, an addict," or "he didn't test the pills." This gives us a sense that this can't happen to us, but it does. You guys need to be careful.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: mushroomtip]
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The sad thing is that I did have an EZ Test Kit. I think he knew, but probably forgot, and he told nobody he was taking anything - which I found somewhat strange. But than again, there's really no reason he should be calling up all his friends announcing what he's ingesting.
I think he was very afraid that he would lose his mind, and this created some major anxiety which seems to have snowballed. Anyone who's had a mindfuck on shrooms can probably relate to what he's going through. It's hell.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8905672 - 09/10/08 06:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah you can never be sure about these things. Sometimes it takes a while to come back from a traumatic experience. I had a friend that was out for about 6 months but finally made a full recovery. I hope your bro snaps out of it. It's always tragic to hear these stories. But kids need to know these things can happen. It's good to have a close net of friends around that can see you starting to slip and get you clean for a while. I know thats the only thing that saved a couple of my friends back in the day.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8905721 - 09/10/08 07:00 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Schizophrenia normally doesn't pass on the father's line, but his dad was psychotic. I don't know much about his dad. His parents divorced when he was young. We're all riding on the hope that this is amphetamine psychosis or something else that can be cured.
It seems much more likely that he's schizophrenic and the amphetamines set off an attack (it comes in waves). If that's the case, he'll calm down eventually. But it will happen again, and it'll keep happening for the rest of his life.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Coffee]
#8905980 - 09/10/08 08:30 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a friend who's dad had schizophrenia when he was young after a spiked drink incident. This friend then started abusing alcohol and smoking a lot of weed and ended up with pyschosis about two years ago. He started presenting similar symptoms to your friend. They put him on lithium and then moved onto tricyclic antidepressents. It took about a year or two for him to reach normality.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: DrOli]
#8907545 - 09/10/08 03:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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They found nothing in his system and so did not give him any meds. Ended up knocking him out (I dunno with what). He has now been asleep for awhile. They say he should be OK when he wakes up, but will be consulted by a psychiatrist. Things are looking up.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8909207 - 09/10/08 08:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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o thats soundin great. the bad news post freaked me out but this update gives good hope and i hope makes a full recovery and i dont think he should fuck with X or psychedelics ever again
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8909951 - 09/10/08 11:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Any update? From all I've read, I would be surprised if he woke up and was fine, but maybe it was just sleep deprivation and everything else that led up to this. Keep up informed.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8910823 - 09/11/08 03:19 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow what an interesting and sad story :S I didn't know ANY drug could cause that:S
¨but he may be on this stuff the rest of his life¨ (somebody said) what does that mean? how can a drug (which is normally metabolised) effect someone permanently? and which drugs can do that? I ask because I would NOT want to go through something like that and really like to try pretty much everything and push doses as far as I can, but would hate to stay with a permanent brain ¨change¨. Maybe a lot of people can learn from this guy's experience..
I really hope he gets better soon, keep us informed man!
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: EM455]
#8910906 - 09/11/08 04:32 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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>how can a drug (which is normally metabolised) effect someone permanently?
It can't per se. But think about this: did taking acid for the first time change your life forever? The experiences stay with you long after the drug is metabolised. And if you have an underlying mental condition such as schizophrenia, this effect is amplified (usually in a bad way).
The drugs aren't necessarily to blame, because a schizophrenic attack could have occurred anyway - it was just a matter of when.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: zouden]
#8910982 - 09/11/08 05:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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eh... to be honest i really don't think all people that go skitzo from psychedelics were destined for it if they stayed sober.
that opinion comes from watching a friend go skitzo and stay that way, very quickly after a couple of shortly spaced intense trips.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: truekimbo2]
#8910987 - 09/11/08 05:48 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah the drugs probably don't help the situation at all
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#8912125 - 09/11/08 11:49 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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My girlfiend of 3 years got some pills with what i think had meth in them. They were sold as X at a concert, she also dropped a hit of lasd i had tripped on many times before and knew to be good. She, for all intensive purposes tripped for a month. On the 3rd day after i had been dealing with all of the trying to figure out was going on, I found some seroquel. I gave her this (had to trick her, untrusting) and she slept for 12hours( the duration of the pill). First time she slept in 3 days. In this time i called her parents and told them what had happened. She had very similar delusions to what you are describing. She thought she was god, chosen one etc. Kept asking me if i had enough acid so she could trip forever. We took her to the hospital where she threatened where she threatened all of the hospital staff. She had to be committed, I convinced her to sing the forms to admit herself so beign committed wouldnt affect here future( 4.0gpa junior in college). She admitted herself and they gave her antipsychotics. They released her in 3 days. For the next month, even on meds she seemed to be slowly coming down from a very very intense acid trip. She lost the though/ soeaking barrier. She couldnt help but say what her brain thought( schizophernia symptom). Its been 6 montghs now and she is almost completly back to normal. The human brain is incredibly resilient and it has altonished me to see her recovery, as i thought i had already lost her completly. I was scared. Never trust x pills, i got them from a friend. I almost lost what makes her, her. I took the same LSD she took that night repeatedly and nothign happened. My conclusion was something to do meth and lsd combination that quite literally blew her mind. Thanks for reading.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Login Name]
#8912184 - 09/11/08 12:15 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Listen Meth doesnt put you in a psychosis, at least not one that lasts longer than the drug. Neither does Acid. Acid did NOT change me the first time I did it. Acid DID give me a slightly different perspective on some things. IMO anti-psychotics dont make ANYONE act like themselves. QUIT TAKING THE DRUGS AND LEAVE THEM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO USE/ENJOY THEM IN A RESPONSIBLE MATTER.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Odum]
#8912313 - 09/11/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Odum said: QUIT TAKING THE DRUGS AND LEAVE THEM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO USE/ENJOY THEM IN A RESPONSIBLE MATTER.
Listen, everybody knows that, but sometime even the brightest person can fall for it, anything can happen when you take drugs. And I think thats stupid to come and say this on the fifth page of the topic with the guy telling to story of what happenned to his friend.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Odum]
#8912586 - 09/11/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Odum said: Listen Meth doesnt put you in a psychosis, at least not one that lasts longer than the drug. Neither does Acid. Acid did NOT change me the first time I did it. Acid DID give me a slightly different perspective on some things. IMO anti-psychotics dont make ANYONE act like themselves. QUIT TAKING THE DRUGS AND LEAVE THEM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO USE/ENJOY THEM IN A RESPONSIBLE MATTER.
Nobody plans of having a psychotic break, and most people don't know they're susceptible until it happens. Get off your high horse.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: zouden]
#8912903 - 09/11/08 02:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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zouden said:
It can't per se. But think about this: did taking acid for the first time change your life forever? The experiences stay with you long after the drug is metabolised. And if you have an underlying mental condition such as schizophrenia, this effect is amplified (usually in a bad way).
The drugs aren't necessarily to blame, because a schizophrenic attack could have occurred anyway - it was just a matter of when.
I really hope you're right and things like that can only happen if you have an underlying mental condition and not because of any drug :S
This thread has really opened my mind to dangers I didn't think were real, or that I though could only happen to ¨others¨
Thanks for that. I'd really like to know how this guy's feeling, and if he woke up better than when he went to sleep. I really hope everything sorts out for him since nobody deserves something like that. He probably only wanted to have a great time and ended up having all this trouble, it must be awful for him and everybody around him :S I really think he will eventually get better though
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: EM455]
#8913391 - 09/11/08 04:33 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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like many had already mentioned, this are the dangers of drug-taking and it could've happened to anybody.
be a good friend, hope your friend gets better, god bless.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: TEAL_MUST_DIE]
#8914814 - 09/11/08 08:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sigh. BAD NEWS... he woke up today (yes, he slept for 1-2 days straight) and he's not that much better. He's a little more coherent and he's faster mentally, but he can't do basic arithmetic (8x8 etc) and seems unable to understand or comprehend basic sentences. For example,
me: "when your mom gets here. Tell her you love her and you're sorry" him: "ok" me: "what are you gonna tell your mom when she gets here?" him: "that I forgive her" ... I repeat myself and ask him again ... him: "that I love her and forgive her"
etc..
Doctors aren't satisfied with his progress and he has been moved to the psych ward, and is expected to stay there for 5-6 days. That's all I have for now. This is tragic. He hasn't been on any meds, and AFAIK, there was nothing in his blood, so I'm not sure if he was abusing any drug for an extended period. I'm pretty sure he had some THC metabolites, since he smoked often last month, but all I heard was "nothing in his blood."
Antipsychotics should sort him out. Thanks for sharing your story, Login Name.
-------- I really don't want to turn the point of this thread into a schizophrenia thread, but here's some info ------
On another note. We don't know the cause of schizophrenia yet. Some people who have no family history of it do get it, whether or not they used any drug. Some people with a long family history of it don't get it, no matter how many substances they abuse - although they tend to get it more frequently than those without a family history of it, but I don't know how significant this is. According to the literature, it's not enough evidence to suggest anything more than having a family history of mental illness puts you at a greater risk of developing an illness yourself.
The link between psychedelics and psychosis is questionable, but as far as I know, there's no solid link connecting the two. People who smoke weed all day and develop psychosis might have been smoking to help with some symptoms they've had before, for example. Most schizophrenics smoke cigarettes because it helps with some symptoms, so the link connecting tobacco to psychosis is weak in regard to this fact, for example.
Can drugs change you permanently? Sure. Brain chemistry aside, any psychedelic, upper (caffeine, nicotine etc), dissociative (ketamine, dxm etc), can trigger a panic attack or cause an intense amount of anxiety. The anxiety and stress *may* trigger a psychotic episode, but again, there's no link between the two, except for the fact that most psychotic attacks are preceded by intense anxiety.
I've experienced psychotic symptoms on caffeine, nicotine, and nitrous oxide. I've experienced ungodly anxiety on psychedelics (incl. weed), but I don't recall those experiences escalating to a point I'd label psychosis or delirium, but they easily could have.
When people mention set & setting, they really aren't joking around.
Anyway, one theory is that people predisposed to schizophrenia have a lower tolerance for stress. So intense stress that somebody might be able to deal with, might disable somebody else. But again, the evidence for this is weak. I won't go deeper into schizophrenia. I've been researching it for a few years because I do have a family history of it. I suggest the book "schizophrenia revealed" if you're interested, and subscribing to the schizophrenia.com feed. One interesting thing that's been gaining some buzz in year; Estrogen is said to repair parts of the brain associated with schizophrenia. It may be why men are more likely to get schizophrenia, and have more serious symptoms, than women. Last I recall, the trials were good, so we might have a new treatment (for women).
ANYWAY!
I think he will be fine eventually, but this is really tough on all of us, especially his family (family = single mom + grandmother, his an only child). On top of all this, he doesn't have insurance at the moment.. major problem. I suggest everybody have health insurance if you live in the US. I _really_ don't recommend doing anything risky without insurance. Shit DOES happen, to anyone. WATCH YOURSELF.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY *DELETED* [Re: Quake3]
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Coffee]
#8915144 - 09/11/08 09:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well i think that even a really small ¨improvement¨ is already something, it's a good sign, at least it's not getting worse so chances are he will get back to normal or at least shouldn't get any worse. maybe he just needs some time to recover. I hope he does. And no matter what happens be there for him as you already have been so far
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: EM455]
#8915813 - 09/11/08 11:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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im thinkin he is gunna make a good recovery it may just take time
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#8916002 - 09/11/08 11:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, he will get through it, he just def needs some drugs.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: g00ru]
#8916108 - 09/12/08 12:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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1. It was more than likely cut with DXM (Dextromethorphine)
2. Your friend is probably hyper sensitive to DXM, like I am. It is very rare. Have your friend talk to his doctor about his nervous system.
3. Sounds like a bad DXM trip/comedown.
Hypersensitivity to DXM will multiply dosage by 5X so if there was 300mg in that pill he would feel it for 3 days. Unfortunately we have to find this out the hard way. I had taken 550mg of DXM for my first time which translates to 2.5g for a hypersensitive person. I tripped for 3 days straight and had a comedown for 5 days.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Enothe]
#8916401 - 09/12/08 02:04 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Enothe said: i recently came upon a dozen pills giving very simular effects. when i took 2 i ended up getting very confused and ive been trying to figure out what was in them since.
it took 2 hours before anything was noticeable and was much more visual than MDMA, but felt very similar. it really kicked in after 5 hours and i was tripping hard. my girlfriend was on the same dose and was feeling the same. everything moving and twisting, not as full on as mushrooms or acid but similar. at this point i felt wonderful, this lasted a good 5 hours before we crashed, felt absolutly horrid and still tripping for... oh a good 20 hours after. couldnt sleep at all. my girlfriend and i stayed up staring at the fuzzy ceiling trying to make it stop.
we were dead the next 2 days. my body was sore, i was completely out of sorts. after effects lasted a week or so. it was very shitty.
im guessing that what i got was MDA + meth. and i think 2 pills was too much. ive taken 1 pill of them and it still had a bad next day but it was much more enjoyable.
my pills were a Yellow shooting star (Bape) green domed pill with LaX on one side and an airplane on the other
the amp psychosis could definatly be part of it. my pills felt like they had alot of meth in them.
dude i got some pills like that too. blue lacoste alligator. took two of those fuckers, seeing shit. Definately meth/mda.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Jeets]
#8916404 - 09/12/08 02:06 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Unless he had some kind of robo-walk or depressant type effects, I really doubt thats what caused this.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Moo456]
#8916412 - 09/12/08 02:11 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry to hear he's still having trouble. I bet he'll come around eventually, he sounds out of it but not batshit or anything. Some therapy and some medication will undoubtedly go a long way.
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Odum said: Listen Meth doesnt put you in a psychosis, at least not one that lasts longer than the drug.
Um, wrong. I have a friend who used to be addicted to meth. He's off it now but he still believes the Mexican Mafia is out to get him and periodically sends agents through the plumbing and out of his drain to talk to him. He thinks everybody around him is "in on" some type of grand Mexican Mafia scheme and he's just trying to figure it out. He's okay and all, going to school and a pretty nice sociable guy, but he really does believe this stuff, and I blame the meth.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Quake3]
#8916435 - 09/12/08 02:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey Quake,
Hope yer pal pulls through and gets himself back into a decent mind set. Many of us here have been submerged in similar places.
Getting out means somehow winning at your own mind game. It plays on. Be his pal. If he gets a glimpse of his delusions for what they are he may find his way out and he will really need good friends to teach him how to live again.
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Dickhead]
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Sounds alot like my buddy who totally lost his shit on a undetermined amount of shrooms (probably 6-7g dried worth). This was when we were all in the very heavy after glow of a DXM trip..Man..he was completely bat shit scatter brained for like 6 or 7 hours after the rest of us had totally sobered up. He tried to exit a 3rd floor window among other things..It was bad..I'm seriously wrestling with the decision to let him try it again or not..He has multiple instances of mental illness in his family..so I dunno man..I guess it does really happen..people fucking shatter like a dropped mirror..
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#8916690 - 09/12/08 04:42 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tchan909 said: Sorry to hear he's still having trouble. I bet he'll come around eventually, he sounds out of it but not batshit or anything. Some therapy and some medication will undoubtedly go a long way.
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Odum said: Listen Meth doesnt put you in a psychosis, at least not one that lasts longer than the drug.
Um, wrong. I have a friend who used to be addicted to meth. He's off it now but he still believes the Mexican Mafia is out to get him and periodically sends agents through the plumbing and out of his drain to talk to him. He thinks everybody around him is "in on" some type of grand Mexican Mafia scheme and he's just trying to figure it out. He's okay and all, going to school and a pretty nice sociable guy, but he really does believe this stuff, and I blame the meth.
yeah delusional paranoia seems to go hand in hand with meth abuse
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: retrospect]
#9020832 - 10/02/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Any news?
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: EM455]
#9022473 - 10/03/08 07:08 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah what's up with this?
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Calbha
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Re: EMERGENCY - HELP! Friend took 2 pills of supposed Ecstasy. Been fucked since FRIDAY [Re: bootedboy]
#9285519 - 11/21/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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bootedboy said: I don't think it is the drugs still messing up your friend. I have heard of this before and it is extremely rare but not impossible. The effects of whatever he took where either so strong or so enlightening in some way or another that it altered his perception and the way he looked at his life. What one perceives is their reality; If I think I am a prophet and the sky is falling then it is. In all reality do any of us really know we are living a normal life or do the individuals we would label as crazy have it right after all. No, but seriously, if you can't get your friend to go see someone you need to tie him up or something. Sounds harsh but it would really help him in the long run.
i saw my ex-girlfriend smoke pot once and she didn't remember the next three days and went nuts and puked that night and couldn't talk straight......i guess thats why erowid posts things like EVERY BODY is different, fact is drugs affect different people differently so tho not in what most would consider normal average range of people it IS (yes i said is) entirely possible your friend fried his brain on whatever he took. I hope to God thats not the case and hes doing better by now as i keep reading and as i just realized how old this is but someone in the chat put up the link and it really caught my intrest and i thought id just stress the obvious BE CAREFUL AND KNOW YOUR BODY!
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