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LSAuser
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dont flame me, sterilization questions
#889086 - 09/17/02 04:25 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK so I read that you gotta PC the jar for 45-60 min. doesnt that sound excessive? does it take that long to kill bacteria and spores? what about ovens or just sitting the jar on a washcloth and sticking it in a pan and let it heat up for 10 min? if it gets contamunated, isnt it due to inocculating where you have to stick the syringe in the 4 holes on the top?
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Servator
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889095 - 09/17/02 04:30 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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not gonna flame... NOT....GOING...TO..FLAME.... Yes it's all necessary, it takes time for the heat to fully penetrate all of the substrate. Anything less WILL contaminate. If it weren't necessary, trust me, the experts wouldn't do it.
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LSAuser
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: Servator]
#889125 - 09/17/02 04:39 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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good answer there. thanks for not flaming me so hows anger management class going?
one more ?, will the oven do or must a PC be used?
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TM
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889166 - 09/17/02 04:55 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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*flick!* *flick!* *flick!* ...DAMN!! Lighter's outa butane!!
-------------------- ================================================ "Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. TMâ„¢
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Shaw
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889187 - 09/17/02 05:04 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'll tell you what i told Z-tard. You don't even have to sterilize them. Just stick your thumb up your ass. Trust me, it helps make them steril.
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Servator
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889193 - 09/17/02 05:08 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eh, I'm feelin happy today oven works for pasteurizing bulk substrates, pretty sure it's gotta be pc for jars. PF's got a method that can be used with a regular pot, check www.fanaticus.com if you don't have a pc'er.
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matts
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Servator
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: matts]
#889209 - 09/17/02 05:15 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea, but I flame this kid so damn much. I feel like I owe him a freebie....
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matts
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Skikid16
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889217 - 09/17/02 05:18 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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"if it gets contamunated, isnt it due to inocculating where you have to stick the syringe in the 4 holes on the top? "
The way that you have worded this makes it very hard to see what the question is. Contamination can be, and most of the time is introduced through innoculation, either due to a contaminated syringe, or filthy working conditions. Or it can be caused by improper sterilization.
About the 45-60 min in the PC, I've read some people only PC for like 20 min. (do a search to be sure.)
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matts
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Edited by matts (09/17/02 05:20 PM)
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XiC_clone
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889282 - 09/17/02 05:42 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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not..........................going......................to..................flame......
::runs away::
-XiC
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croftsk
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889522 - 09/17/02 07:34 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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ya know, USAlaser would have been a much cooler name!
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Shaw
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: XiC_clone]
#889524 - 09/17/02 07:34 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes you are you fucking liar
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TM
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: croftsk]
#889539 - 09/17/02 07:39 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think he should've chosen "IMALoser" LOL!
-------------------- ================================================ "Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. TMâ„¢
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XiC_clone
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889560 - 09/17/02 07:47 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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If it is just the time that bothers ya, 20 mins @ 15 PSI will do the job for : PF tek cakes Wheat Berries PF wheat berry cakes Inverto's
I caught my first jar of contam about 3 weeks ago. I am guessing it was the shorter PC'ing time. But waiting for it to cool after 20 min's is a big difference than an hour. So I like the 20 min style.
-XiC
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LSAuser
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: TM]
#889569 - 09/17/02 07:52 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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heh! good idea but too late for that. maybe USEDbyLSA? how about LSAbuser? or perhaps LSA2LSD
ok seriously do people ever break jars to get the mycellum cake out? someone said to break em. wont you get tiny pieces of glass, damage the cake and make a mess? also can you break the cake into pieces getting it out of the jar and bury it under soil in the fruiting container and let the shrooms grow out from the soil? about the 4 holes, can 3 or even just 2 holes be used to reduce contamination?
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Shaw
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889577 - 09/17/02 07:57 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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do you like getting flamed? whoever said that is an idiot.
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Servator
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889581 - 09/17/02 07:58 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya gotta do what you gotta do... Leave it at 4 for air exchange, makes it easier to innoculate more evenly as well. I don't think there would be any advantage to fewer holes.
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LSAuser
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: Servator]
#889594 - 09/17/02 08:04 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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if air exchange was desired why block them using aluminum foil?
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Servator
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889599 - 09/17/02 08:08 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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You don't, jar lids or foil with holes punched only one of two.
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LSAuser
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: Servator]
#889619 - 09/17/02 08:23 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see. I heard some mentioning of using more than one layer of foil, the first layer has 4 holes you inocculate then put 2 more layers of foil over that? even with 1/2 inch dry verm on top, contams can easily go thru after a week or so?
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SixTango
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#889730 - 09/17/02 09:11 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bat crap is useless as a substrate & so is this thread
Gonna flame, not gonna, gonna................
What's the point?
6T
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TRIPPYCHIK
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#890240 - 09/18/02 03:58 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I got away with just boiling the jars. Then I got smart and quickly realized that I wasn't gonna do cakes forever and invested in a All American 915 PC. That machine is serious ya heard. If you ever have any thoughts of advancing to grains later on, get a PC. Whether a Presto or All American just get it somehow. Sell your body, sell crack, whatever it takes. Just kidding! or maybe not!
just my 2 sense!
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blackout
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: TRIPPYCHIK]
#890363 - 09/18/02 05:15 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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366 posts and he still hasnt bothered to find the FAQs
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myco_holic
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#890488 - 09/18/02 06:30 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey LSA ...I thought just like you did....On the 5th of Sept. I had boiled my jars for only 40 minutes. Not only that , but i think water got in them.... After they cooled i looked at them and thought , "Well they look clean , smell clean ." They must be clean then right? WRONG !!! After a strong gorwth the first day everything stopped .....Six days into the stop i noticed an odor similar to my gym socks after running a couple of miles. I popped the top and threw them in a plastic bag to stop the odor..... It really stinks..Moral of the story, If you want a smelly pile of shit pc for 10 min...You'll have some red funk growin in no time....Thats what you' re tryin to grow right?
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bladerunnerss
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: myco_holic]
#891756 - 09/18/02 05:40 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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lmfao @/w/ myco haulic! =O
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tripndicular
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Re: dont flame me, sterilization questions [Re: LSAuser]
#891779 - 09/18/02 05:46 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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"PENETRATION' it is all about penetration ! Are you sure you were the fastest sperm in the bunch ?
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