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LHC World's End 9/10/08
#8889725 - 09/07/08 04:36 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just in case the world ends on Sept 10th, I wish you all success in whatever level of molecular splitting destiny you find yourself! - I for one will be eating all of my shrooms 

The Hadron Collider will be turned on after successfully completing a cool down phase and we'll all find out if we'll be around the next day or falling through some black hole created by crazy atom splitting physicists, at first it was the A-Bomb, now they're taking it a step further and recreating the conditions 1/Billionth of a second right after the Big Bang 
Such is the angst that the American Nobel prize winning physicist Frank Wilczek of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology has even had death threats, said Prof Brian Cox of Manchester University, adding: "Anyone who thinks the LHC will destroy the world is a twat."
The facility is due to go live on September 10.
The scientists have lodged a lawsuit at the European Court for Human Rights against 20 countries that fund the scheme.
But the project's scientists dismissed the fears as "absurd".
Large particle colliders have been used by scientists to smash atoms together for more than 30 years, but the LHC is the biggest and most powerful ever built.
It will fire atomic particles around the 27.3km circular tunnel 11,245 times a second before smashing them into each other.
The result will, for a split second, replicate the conditions that theoretically existed in the moments immediately after the birth of the universe, known as the Big Bang.
Opponent Otto Rossler says it could instead spawn mini black holes which, within four years, could grow big enough to suck the earth inside out.
They claim the experiment violates the right to life under the European Convention of Human Rights.
Professor Rossler, a German chemist, said the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) has admitted its project creates black holes but doesn't consider them to be a risk.
"My own calculations have shown it is quite plausible that these little black holes survive and will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside," he warned.
"I have been calling for CERN to hold a safety conference to prove my conclusions wrong but they have not been willing." news.com.au
- Oh Dear! There's always some bastard willing to screw with my day.
Edited by TerryTibbs (09/07/08 05:12 AM)
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: hoodbran]
#8890050 - 09/07/08 08:35 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not going to trust the calculations of a single chemist over the calculations of the worlds best and brightest particle physicists...
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: Seuss]
#8890204 - 09/07/08 09:38 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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The same crack-pots were predicting this kind of world-ending-nonsense before the relativistic heavy ion collider in NY started, too.
On the other hand, I wouldn't mind one of those catastrophic scenarios wherein all life is exterminated. Nothing of value will be lost.
So either we fill in some gaps in the standard model and find the Higgs, or we all die; it's win-win.
Edited by Minstrel (09/07/08 09:51 AM)
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: hoodbran]
#8890493 - 09/07/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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A lackluster day for scientists and laymen alike.
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: Minstrel]
#8890704 - 09/07/08 12:26 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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> On the other hand, I wouldn't mind one of those catastrophic scenarios wherein all life is exterminated.
Just let me know first. I want to be spun on a few hits of quality acid when I get sucked into the event horizon. Time dilation on acid has to be the ultimate long lasting trip.
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: Seuss]
#8890962 - 09/07/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Seuss said: > On the other hand, I wouldn't mind one of those catastrophic scenarios wherein all life is exterminated.
Just let me know first. I want to be spun on a few hits of quality acid when I get sucked into the event horizon. Time dilation on acid has to be the ultimate long lasting trip.

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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: Minstrel]
#8892054 - 09/07/08 05:24 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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actually the LHC turns on Sept. 10 but the first collisions won't be until Oct. 21, then that's when we'll die, so we got another month or so ha
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: AgroCrag]
#8893612 - 09/07/08 10:05 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What? I thought they turned it on last month? We've still got to wait another 6 weeks still? It's gonna be forever before we get to hear any useful data coming out 
All I want to know is if they're going to find the Higgs boson.
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They are firing it on the 10th... BBC Radio are having coverage all day for the first proton beams
http://voanews.com/english/2008-09-07-voa5.cfm
After more than 30 years of planning, 14 years of building and $10 billion later, the Large Hadron Collider, the world's biggest atom smasher, is due to start up on September 10. Scientists predict collisions of sub-atomic particles produced by the LHC will allow them to get closer than ever before to answering questions about the origins of the universe. Lisa Schlein reports for VOA from CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research in Geneva....
[scientists] say protons are fed directly into the LHC ring via two injection lines, one for each beam. He says the first attempt to circulate two proton beams all the way around the ring will occur on September 10.
It is indeed Wednesday
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> What? I thought they turned it on last month?
They did, but particles were only shot in one direction at a time, and not allowed to go all the way around. Testing, they are.
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: hoodbran]
#8895833 - 09/08/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Collisions ranging from 1 million to 100 million times more powerful than the best the LHC can produce occur in our atmosphere many thousands of times a day from natural cosmic ray collisions. This has been going on for some 5 billion years. Every day!
The Oh My God Particle causes many of them.
I wouldn't worry much about that puny little LHC. Nature is way ahead of us.
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: hoodbran]
#8895912 - 09/08/08 11:56 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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if the above scenario takes place, i hope i'm asleep
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: demiu5]
#8895945 - 09/08/08 12:07 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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You have an eternity to sleep.
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I found this on Youtube: END:DAY - has 6 parts under 8 minutes long and encompasses the LHC, 6 scenarios, very good watch!
My theory is the Govts know they are gonna blow us up in a black hole, i mean the world is messed up, wars, credit crunch, terror... maybe the human race goes this way? we get technologically advanced and realize how we've messed up and we blow ourselves away then the earth reforms and thus we go...
Edited by TerryTibbs (09/08/08 01:05 PM)
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: hoodbran]
#8896371 - 09/08/08 01:31 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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how would it reform? I mean i realize white holes are a part of black holes, but wouldnt it be a bunch of small black holes not just one big one?
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Assuming the universe has been around forever then it could be feasable that if this planet was destroyed then life must form someplace else, if not when all the energy in what was once earth slowed enough to form again, maybe it's man's destiny that we get to a point where the only option is to self destruct; like a crazy loop...
Of course this aint no answer by any meas, but a quickly spun up theory...
Those in the know chose to make the atom bomb, then we realize we've been here before and the LHC is a device to obliterate this unpredictable world... Cave dwellers have LOADS of technology (Bin Laden) and it would just be as better to wipe out life, because the allies dont want the enemy (citizens) finding out the truth - assuming also those in the 'know' are assured they are safe... maybe theyve been colonizing space and they're gonna fuck us off on weds... LOL
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: hoodbran]
#8896787 - 09/08/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know there is some concern about the LHC ramping up to begin full-scale testing in October, so I made a handy illustrative chart.

Personally, I think if the world is going to end, it would be an honor and privilege to be present for its final moments. We all gotta die anyway, right? Unfortunately I'll probably die clutching my chest after eating that second Big Mac, like most other sedentary American males. It seems much less exciting.
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: Ythan]
#8896961 - 09/08/08 03:52 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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ahhh, but much more important than how we die is when we die.
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Re: LHC World's End 9/10/08 [Re: DieCommie]
#8896985 - 09/08/08 03:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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2012 of course, anyone who doesn't know that clearly has too little faith in the knowledge of the intarnetz
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i'm still gonna bank on the fact that Aliens will come blow it up before it can get going, then everyone will be relieved its gone ha regardless of how or what destroyed it
the only thing its gonna do, confirm or deny higgs boson, after that probably nothing exciting for a while
just too much hype
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