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If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,...
    #8846732 - 08/29/08 10:46 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

then all someone would have to do is say "hey yall, im bout ta legalize the potage"




-nuff said :smile:


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: 513orangejuice]
    #8846738 - 08/29/08 10:47 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Not really.

The last I saw, the majority does not support the legalization of drugs.


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: Redstorm]
    #8846767 - 08/29/08 10:54 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

the last i saw the majority does


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: Coaster]
    #8846785 - 08/29/08 10:59 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Do you have a source for that?


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: 513orangejuice]
    #8846800 - 08/29/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

You're not thinking of legalizing, you're thinking of allowing medical use for terminal and suffering patients.

It's unlikely the majority would actually be for straight legalization. People are generally stupid and almost a century gone from a country without prohibition.

As a whole, were a pretty stupid people. We believe pretty much anything were told.




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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: Redstorm]
    #8846816 - 08/29/08 11:08 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Do you have a source for that?



no but ull c in november how much weed will change in this country


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: Coaster]
    #8846891 - 08/29/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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You're not thinking of legalizing, you're thinking of allowing medical use for terminal and suffering patients.

It's unlikely the majority would actually be for straight legalization. People are generally stupid and almost a century gone from a country without prohibition.

As a whole, were a pretty stupid people. We believe pretty much anything were told.














no, i actually meant the personal use AND growing of any amount AND medical, because i dont really think you can seperate medical from recreational if you get the same health benefits either way. if you smoke it, chances are you like what it does to you. Other wise, why would so many people smoke something that has been proven to not be physically addictive??? :confused:


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: 513orangejuice]
    #8846995 - 08/29/08 11:50 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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At the beginning of the 21st century, it was estimated that marijuana, which is also known as cannabis, ganja and hashish, was regularly used by about four per cent of the total population of the world. In other words, out of every 100 people in the world, four people are regular users of marijuana.

In the Western countries, the percentage pf people who are regular users of marijuana is estimated to be even higher than the world average. It is estimated that about 20 per cent or more of the total adult population of the United States of America have admitted to having tried the plant. It is estimated that between 10 per cent and 30 per cent of the total adult population of Europe have admitted to having tried the plant.

In other words, the use of marijuana in the United States of America is about five times the world average and in Europe, it is between two-and-a-half per cent and seven-and-a half per cent of the world average




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Percentage of 8th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana:
Monitoring the Future Study, 2007

  1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
Lifetime 16.7% 19.9% 23.1% 22.6% 22.2% 22.0% 20.3%
Past Year 13.0 15.8 18.3 17.7 16.9 16.5 15.6
Past Month 7.8 9.1 11.3 10.2 9.7 9.7 9.1
Daily 0.7 0.8 1.5 1.1 1.1 1.4 1.3


  2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
Lifetime  20.4% 19.2% 17.5% 16.3% 16.5% 15.7 14.2
Past Year 15.4 14.6 12.8 11.8 12.2 11.7 10.3
Past Month 9.2 8.3 7.5 6.4 6.6 6.5 5.7
Daily 1.3 1.2 1.0 0.8 1.0 1.0 0.8




Percentage of 10th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana:
Monitoring the Future Study, 2007

  1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
Lifetime 30.4% 34.1% 39.8% 42.3% 39.6%  40.9% 40.3%
Past Year 25.2 28.7 33.6 34.8 31.1  32.1 32.2
Past Month 15.8 17.2 20.4 20.5 18.7 19.4 19.7
Daily 2.2 2.8 3.5 3.7 3.6  3.8 3.8


  2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
Lifetime 40.1% 38.7% 36.4% 35.1% 34.1% 31.8% 31.0%
Past Year 32.7 30.3 28.2 27.5 26.6 25.2 24.6
Past Month 19.8 17.8 17.0 15.9 15.2 14.2 14.2
Daily 4.5 3.9 3.6 3.2 3.1 2.8 2.8




Percentage of 12th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana
Monitoring the Future Study, 2007

  1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000
Lifetime 38.2% 41.7% 44.9% 49.6% 49.1% 49.7% 48.8%
Past Year 30.7 34.7 35.8 38.5 37.5 37.8 36.5
Past Month 19.0 21.2 21.9 23.7 22.8 23.1 21.6
Daily 3.6 4.6 4.9 5.8 5.6 6.0 6.0


  2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
Lifetime 49.0% 47.8% 46.1% 45.7% 44.8% 42.3% 41.8%
Past Year 37.0 36.2 34.9 34.3 33.6 31.5 31.7
Past Month 22.4 21.5 21.2 19.9 19.8 18.3 18.8
Daily 5.8 6.0 6.0 5.6 5.0






and thats only people who arent so paranoid to admit it. Just think of how many lazy closet potheads who just dont answer a statistic poll that you get in the mail(cuz that ussally how they get these things, which is bullshit, ive never answered one,...)

http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

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Bill Clinton. Nearly 642,000 people were arrested for marijuana related crimes in 1996 (This represents an 80% increase since 1990.)


85% were arrested in 1996 for possession; 15% were arrested for selling

It's estimated that some $15.1 billion was spent in 1997 on the drug war (out of a total federal budget in '97 of $1.6 trillion

Between Oct 1995 and Oct 1996, marijuana offenses represented nearly 25% of all federal sentences.


8% of federal marijuana cases involved a weapon (statistics are from Oct 1995-Oct 1996).
In 1994, there were 17,183 people in federal prison for marijuana crimes; 11,429 were there as violent offenders. (In contrast, in 1980 there were almost twice as many violent offenders in federal prison as drug offenders.)

101 plants will can get you a 5-year mandatory federal sentence. No parole. You would be in prison longer than if you were convicted of assault.

crime sentence in months:
murder - 296 months
kidnapping - 180 months
marijuana - (10 year min)* 120 months !!! (WTF UP THERE WITH KIDNAPPING AND SEXUAL ABUSE!!!)

sexual abuse - 67 months
marijuana - (5 year min)** 60 months
avg: marijuana sentence - 42 months
assault - 34 months
manslaughter - 27 months
fraud - 13 months

*10 year mandatory minimum for marijuana (growing more than 1000 plants = 120 months
** 5 year mandatory minimum for marijuana (growing more than 100 plants = 60 months)

[Source: US sentencing Commission, 1996 Sourcebook of Federal Sentencing Statistics, pg 22.]

In at least thirteen states you can get a life sentence for marijuana.

A 1992 study by the National Institute for Drug Abuse found that roughly 3 million Americans smoked pot everyday; another 2 million smoked once a month; and some 12 million smoked pot once a year.

According to a 1997 U.S. Dept. of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration report, you have to smoke four joints to equal just one grown today


[Source: 1996 Report, National Narcotics Intelligence Consumers Committee (NNICC), "The Supply of Illicit Drugs to the United States."]

A study released Monday finds that marijuana is now the nation's biggest cash crop, with the value of the annual harvest exceeding that of corn, soybeans or hay -- the country's top three legal cash crops. The study, conducted by public policy analyst and former National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws head Jon Gettman, used official government figures to arrive at an estimate that the annual pot crop is worth $35 billion.



indoor marijuana growAccording to the report, Marijuana Production in the United States (2006), US domestic marijuana production has increased 10-fold in the past quarter-century. This despite ever more intensive eradication programs at the state and federal levels that have seen more than 100 million pot plants seized and destroyed since the early 1980s.

Between 1981 and 2006, US marijuana production increased ten-fold, from 1,000 metric tons (2.2 million pounds) to 10,000 metric tons (22 million pounds), according to government figures cited by Gettman. The massive expansion of pot production in the face of increased eradication efforts suggests that "marijuana has become a pervasive and ineradicable part of our national economy" that should be put under a system of legal regulation, Gettman wrote.

And it is everywhere. While California, Tennessee, Kentucky, Hawaii, and Washington are the top producing states, pot is the top cash crop in 12 states and among the top three in 30 states. "There is a lot of demand for marijuana in the US, and it's only natural that production would increase here," Gettman told Drug War Chronicle.

But the increase is also a function of government enforcement efforts, Gettman argued. "In response to the government spraying Mexican marijuana with paraquat in the 1970s, people began to grow in California and Hawaii. Then the government starting flying helicopters and airplanes around looking for marijuana from the sky, so cultivation spread out," he explained. "By 1982, it was in 32 states. Now, it's in all 50 states. Growers also moved to smaller plots and to maximize production with the use of fertilizers, better genetic stock, and the production of sinsemilla, and they moved inside. Everything the government has done to stop marijuana production has caused growers to respond, and now we are at a point where we have diffused cultivation and small-scale production all over the country," the analyst argued.

"This report tells us our marijuana policy is not working very well, and that's an understatement," Gettman summarized. "These are the government's numbers, not mine, and they show there is absolutely no evidence their program is successful in any way, shape, or form."

"The fact that marijuana is America's number one cash crop after more than three decades of governmental eradication efforts is the clearest illustration that our present marijuana laws are a complete failure," said Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project, which spearheaded the media outreach following the report's publication. "America's marijuana crop is worth more than our nation's annual production of corn and wheat combined. And our nation's laws guarantee that 100% of the proceeds from marijuana sales go to unregulated criminals rather than to legitimate businesses that pay taxes to support schools, police and roads."

While Gettman did not estimate possible tax revenues from the regulated sale of marijuana, he suggested they would be substantial. "Legal production would bring down the prices, but the fact that people are buying marijuana at black market prices demonstrates that people value marijuana and will pay for it," said Gettman. "Marijuana can be heavily taxed and still provide lower prices than now while providing revenues to the government," he argued.

In California, the state's Campaign Against Marijuana Planting (CAMP) seized nearly 1.7 million plants this year, but based on seizure rates over the last three years, Gettman puts California's pot production at 21 million plants, worth about $13 billion and responsible for a whopping 38% of total US production.

The country should focus on regulating the lucrative trade instead of vainly trying to suppress it, Gettman concluded. "Like all profitable agricultural crops marijuana adds resources and value to the economy," he writes in the report. "The focus for public policy should be how to effectively control this market through regulation and taxation in order to achieve immediate and realistic goals, such as reducing teenage access."

Neither CAMP nor the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) returned Chronicle calls for comment on the study, but ONDCP's Tom Riley told the Los Angeles Times that while he wouldn’t argue Gettman's numbers, he disagreed with his conclusions. "Coca is Colombia's largest cash crop and that hasn't worked out for them, and opium poppies are Afghanistan's largest crop, and that has worked out disastrously for them," Riley said. "I don't know why we would venture down that road."






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Marijuana most common drug in America
Addictive substance can cause distraction, higher chance of lung cancer
Ashley Dziuk
Issue date: 3/7/05 Section: Health
PrintEmail Article Tools Page 1 of 2 next > Pot, hash, Mary Jane, weed and countless other terms are all used to describe the drug marijuana.

According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug in the United States.

There are cultural perceptions about the drug that affect people's use, said David Sprick, interim chief of University Police.

"People may think it's harmless, that everybody does it or that it's no big deal," he said.

But marijuana use can cause problems for some students on a personal level, Sprick said.

"For some people, at the very least, pot is a distraction," he said. "The worst-case scenario is it becomes an addiction problem."

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, in 2003, 33.7 percent of college students had used marijuana in the past year, and 19.3 percent in the past month.

Although those numbers indicate that young adults use marijuana, many, like junior Dawn Snyder, choose not to.

"I've been around enough second-hand smoke in my life," she said. "I don't think I need to put anymore (smoke) into my body."

There are both short- and long-term physical effects of using marijuana, Sprick said.

These include a higher chance of lung cancer and other smoking-related illnesses.

"There is damage to white blood cells in the lungs," he said, "which reduces the ability to fight lung infections and illness."

According to NIDA, marijuana has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract, due to irritants and carcinogens in the smoke.

For men, it causes decreased testosterone levels and lower sperm counts, Sprick said.

Marijuana also can affect a person psychologically, he said.

"It can cause loss of short term memory and loss of motivation," Sprick said.

The short-term effects also include "distorted perception, difficulty thinking and problem solving, loss of coordination and increased heart rate," according to NIDA.
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COME ON EVERYBODY SMOKES WEED! just cuz we all dont take statistic polls doesnt mean i aint smoking a bowl right now!


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: 513orangejuice]
    #8863740 - 09/01/08 11:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I don't smoke, but I don't have a problem with it. :ohwell:


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: Redstorm]
    #8885578 - 09/06/08 07:42 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
The last I saw, the majority does not support the legalization of drugs.




Naturally the majority has no concept of liberty and personal responsibility.


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Re: If getting elected for president REALLY depended on aquiring the support of the people,... [Re: Minstrel]
    #8886944 - 09/06/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Minstrel said:
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Redstorm said:
The last I saw, the majority does not support the legalization of drugs.




Naturally the majority has no concept of liberty and personal responsibility.




I agree, I was just saying that putting it up for vote is not a cure-all.


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