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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf] * 1
    #16220462 - 05/12/12 04:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

see thats the thing man..Here in the US I pay $75 USD of course which would be approximately like 90-100 Euros if Im not mistaken..Anyways,Yeah I pay 75usd for my dr visit and thats once a month..But I get #120 Methadone 10mg/#120 Soma 350mg/#30 Temazepam 30mg..And all of those medicines come up to a total of about 55usd..So not too bad really..
But in your case..With getting reinburstmants and such,man that sounds too good to be true dude!! Seriously man..
Im jealous of all the Benzos you get bro..lol
And as for a benzo that you could ask for..I think you have tried and have in your possession just about any benzodiazepine available..seriously man
But what about Etizolam,and other Benzo analouges??
And what about Phenazepam?? Tried that??
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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #16221533 - 05/12/12 08:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I haven't tried Etizolam and Phenazepam yet. I'm curious about Etizolam though, but in my opinion they cost way to much, For 100 Etizolam 2 mg pellets I can buy approximately 750 Flunitrazepam 1 mg tablets, if you get my point. However, that doesn't change the fact that I'm curious to try them, so I probably will order some Etizolam in the future.

Phenazepam is another story. I haven't tried it yet, and I'm not really planning to do so either. I've heard quite a lot of horror stories about it (mostly where due to its long half life).

Are there other Benzodiazepine Research Chemicals apart from those two? And if so, which ones? I'm always open to new chemicals (especially Benzodiazepines and opiates - If you know of some good opiate RC's... I'm very interested).

Also, how does Methadone compare to -let's say- OxyContin? Some say it's great, others say it's a crappy high. I haven't tried it myself, so I wouldn't know.

I'm also very interested in trying Soma one day... How would you describe the high? Doesn't it also potentiates opiates?

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf] * 1
    #16228470 - 05/14/12 10:35 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Soma most definitely increases the effects of Opiates/Opioids..The Soma high itself is just like being drunk..or being "Under the Influence" anyways..In another words it makes you feel as if you have been drinking..Pretty nice actually..And total loss of muscle pain in my experience..Also You might find this interesting,Cariosoprodol(Soma) metabolizes into an active metabolite Meprobamate,a tranquilizer..Quite nice!!
As for the Methadone high..I prefer it over any other Opiate really because of the long half life..Ive been taking methadone now for about 8 years for pain..Now dont get me wrong I wouldnt mind doing an occassional Opiate to get High High..Like heroin,Opana,Oxycontin..etc etc..but as far as day to day,Ill stick to my Methadone :smile:
Hope I could answer some questions for ya mate..
Ive gotta question for you man..So in your country what mg do your Flunitrazepam come in?? 
P.S.-Ive got Phenazepam now and some Etiz on the way :wink:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #16234944 - 05/15/12 12:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Soma most definitely increases the effects of Opiates/Opioids..The Soma high itself is just like being drunk..or being "Under the Influence" anyways..In another words it makes you feel as if you have been drinking..Pretty nice actually..And total loss of muscle pain in my experience..Also You might find this interesting,Cariosoprodol(Soma) metabolizes into an active metabolite Meprobamate,a tranquilizer..Quite nice!!
As for the Methadone high..I prefer it over any other Opiate really because of the long half life..Ive been taking methadone now for about 8 years for pain..Now dont get me wrong I wouldnt mind doing an occassional Opiate to get High High..Like heroin,Opana,Oxycontin..etc etc..but as far as day to day,Ill stick to my Methadone :smile:
Hope I could answer some questions for ya mate..
Ive gotta question for you man..So in your country what mg do your Flunitrazepam come in?? 
P.S.-Ive got Phenazepam now and some Etiz on the way :wink:




Thanks for answering my questions! :smile: I didn't know that a Methadone high was so different compared to other opiates.

As for the Flunitrazepam, where I live (in Belgium) they only sell the 1 mg pills since the 2 mg pills were taken off the market. They sell both a generic version and the brand name (Rohypnol) pills, but I always ask for the generic version. The price of the generic Flunitrazepam is lower, and for some reason most doctors here are more likely to sell the generic Flunitrazepam (my guess is that this has to do with the negative connotation of the name 'Rohypnol'). In addition to that, Flunitrazepam is only sold here in boxes of 10 pills.

Oxymorphone (Opana) and Hydrocodone aren't on the market where I live either. I don't know why, and I'm curious if they are planning on bringing them on the market in the future. I sincerely hope they will, because I've heard some great stories about Opana.

I'm also extremely curious about any opiate/opioid RC's that one could obtain. I know there are some, but since new RC's are being developed every day it's hard to keep up with them. Maybe a topic about opiate/opioid RC's with a list that gets updated every so often would be great... :wink:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf] * 1
    #16235848 - 05/15/12 04:21 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah..Hopefully..Although Opiates can be VERY addicting my man..I know you are aware of the dependance factor because you take benzos on the regular but I wouldnt be doing the right thing imo if I didnt say something,ya know :smile:
Well...Now that I think about it,you get Oxycontin anyways dont ya..I remember reading about that earlier in the thread..
And as for the Methadone high..Man its similar to other opiates as far as the high is concerned man,it just lasts wayyy longer..thats my :twocents:
Im not really aware of any RC opiates bro..are you??


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #16240281 - 05/16/12 01:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah..Hopefully..Although Opiates can be VERY addicting my man..I know you are aware of the dependance factor because you take benzos on the regular but I wouldnt be doing the right thing imo if I didnt say something,ya know :smile:
Well...Now that I think about it,you get Oxycontin anyways dont ya..I remember reading about that earlier in the thread..
And as for the Methadone high..Man its similar to other opiates as far as the high is concerned man,it just lasts wayyy longer..thats my :twocents:
Im not really aware of any RC opiates bro..are you??



I'm fully aware of the addictive properties of opiates, trust me. :wink:

As for opiate RC's, I know there are many out there - some aren't too hard to get, others are extremely hard to get your hands on. Some of them have very dangerous dosages as well. They are not toys to play around with, especially if one doesn't have a tolerance to opiates and/or doesn't use the right equipment (like scales).

Here's a list of some opiate RC's (there are many, many more - this is just the tip of the iceberg):

  • Viminol
  • Nortilidine
  • Dermorphin
  • O-Desmethyltramadol
  • Bromadol (BDPC - about 500 times stronger than Morphine)
  • 7-hydroxymitragynine
  • W18
  • Methopholine
  • C-8813
  • AH-7921


And these (not really RC's I suppose - it's a thin line):
  • Faxeladol
  • Profadol
  • Tapentadol
  • Ciramadol


Here's some reading material that you can read if you're interested in opiate RC's:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15760072
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?35660-RC-Opiates-Opiods
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?35707-Opioid-Like-Chemicals-Legally-Available-Online
http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-331.html?s=aa698c243beaab4a9de0974e9ccde49e

Personally, I'm especially interested in Viminol, Dermorphin, O-Desmethyltramadol, Bromadol and especially Nortilidine. I will probably order one or more of these substances in the future... :crazy2:

I hope you got something out of this information. :smile:

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P.S.: I know my benzodiazepines, but I know my opiates/opioids as well! :cool:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf] * 1
    #16246619 - 05/17/12 06:26 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

This one seems pretty interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-%284-Nitrophenylethyl%29piperidylidene-2-%284-chlorophenyl%29sulfonamide
Also the c-8813 drug seems interesting as well!!
Yeah man..U bring up a very good question imo..Why arent they any opiate rc's being made..and if they are being made,then why arent we hearing about it..
I bet its because of the federal analogue act..but still if thats the case then these two drugs I have listed should be okay to manufacture and sell,of course not for human consumption though!!


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer] * 1
    #16246822 - 05/17/12 07:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

well man Ive emailed my Chinese connection :P
Lets see what he has to say :cool:
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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #16248664 - 05/18/12 03:46 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Definitely the classics, oxy etc.


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    #16248948 - 05/18/12 07:07 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ha..Your not gonna believe what my vendor buddy has said man..He said that "they plan on making w-18,it looks fairly easy to synthesize" thats their words man!!
Sweet huh..But man,that shit is so potent I would be afraid to even try it man..seriously!!
I didnt think I would ever say something like that..But this shit it POTENT!!'


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #16250261 - 05/18/12 02:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Ha..Your not gonna believe what my vendor buddy has said man..He said that "they plan on making w-18,it looks fairly easy to synthesize" thats their words man!!
Sweet huh..But man,that shit is so potent I would be afraid to even try it man..seriously!!
I didnt think I would ever say something like that..But this shit it POTENT!!'



It's too potent.

I very strongly advise you to stay away from a chemical like that. W-18 is 10,000 times as strong as morphine... The possibility of overdosing is just too great, even if you use a scale and have an antagonist like Naloxone at hand. Just touching or inhaling the amount of 5 grains of salt would probably put you six feet under.

If you would order an opiate/opioid Research Chemical, choose one that's far less potent. Also, stronger doesn't equal better as far as chemicals go. Especially with such compounds.

You should check out some of the links I provided, they contain reports of people that have actually tried some of the chemicals I listed.

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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf]
    #16251630 - 05/18/12 08:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

yeah I did man..I think c-8813 would be much easier to handle than w-18..w-18 is just too potent..c-8813 on the other hand is at least potent enough to where you still have to be careful but you could manage to dose it with an accurate scale..Do you agree?? Because fentanyl is 100x stronger than morphine,and I can eat 5mg of fentanyl and get a good solid buzz..and c-8813 is 500x stronger than morphine..So I think with an accurate scale it would be able to be dosed out..what do u think man??


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #16251634 - 05/18/12 08:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Heroin :syringe:


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #16263195 - 05/21/12 02:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah I did man..I think c-8813 would be much easier to handle than w-18..w-18 is just too potent..c-8813 on the other hand is at least potent enough to where you still have to be careful but you could manage to dose it with an accurate scale..Do you agree?? Because fentanyl is 100x stronger than morphine,and I can eat 5mg of fentanyl and get a good solid buzz..and c-8813 is 500x stronger than morphine..So I think with an accurate scale it would be able to be dosed out..what do u think man??



With an accurate scale and good safety measurements, I do think it is safe (but you have to be extremely careful). Maybe you could make a solution or put it on blotters for safe dosing, but then you'll have to find out in what fluid it is soluble. Opioid blotters would be very cool though. :cool:

Are you actually thinking of ordering some? If so, by all means keep me posted! I'm very interested in opiate/opioid Research Chemicals. :awesomenod:

Are there reports of people that have used C-8813, by the way? If not, you would be the guinea pig (which isn't a good thing) for this substance. Personally, I should start with a chemical compound that's already used by actual humans.

Anyway, keep me posted! :wink:

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NonkelDolf

P.S.: I'm sorry for the late reply, my internet was down yesterday...


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: Nonkeldolf]
    #16263952 - 05/21/12 05:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

My internet was down yesterday as well..
But yeah dude,Im gonna order some of the MT-45 as soon as my vendor has it for sell!!
Ill send ya his email when its ready..


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    #16270449 - 05/22/12 09:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I cant find any information on the mt-45...Do u have any links regarding dosing..ect ect ??


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    #16274410 - 05/23/12 05:53 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I cant find any information on the mt-45...Do u have any links regarding dosing..ect ect ??



Apparently, MT-45 is comparable to Morphine in terms of strength. However, I have never heard of anyone actually ingesting this drug.

Here are some links that contain information about MT-45:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/273287-piperazine-opioids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-45
http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-4896.html

Do you know when to expect the compound? It all sounds very interesting to me. But make sure you research this chemical thoroughly before experimenting with it - but I'm pretty sure you knew that already... :wink:

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    #16306898 - 05/30/12 04:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks dude..And yeah I always ALWAYS do my research before I ingest any drug..Thats why Im still alive :wink:
haha..But on the mt-45 note,look at your inbox..I sent ya a PM


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Re: Whats your favorite Opiate? [Re: pfshroomer]
    #16524333 - 07/13/12 07:31 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Heroin or opium sap/gel straight from the poppy

Can i ask the others that said heroin was their favorite to say what type of heroin?

White/light Beige or the Dark brown/beige stuff?

Apparently the white stuff is processed more and dissolves in water better so its easier to inject and is 'more pure' while the dark brown stuff isn't as refined and pure but much better for smoking.

I only smoke and in my town can only get the white stuff, but the stuff i got in Delhi, India was a very dark brown and supposedly from Afghanistan, easily the best i have ever had.


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    #16527628 - 07/13/12 08:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Heroin or opium sap/gel straight from the poppy

Can i ask the others that said heroin was their favorite to say what type of heroin?

White/light Beige or the Dark brown/beige stuff?

Apparently the white stuff is processed more and dissolves in water better so its easier to inject and is 'more pure' while the dark brown stuff isn't as refined and pure but much better for smoking.

I only smoke and in my town can only get the white stuff, but the stuff i got in Delhi, India was a very dark brown and supposedly from Afghanistan, easily the best i have ever had.




Yes I find this to be the truth; coming from a guy who lives 30 minutes outside one of this biggest heroin infested metropolitan cities in the U.S. The brown acetic anhydride smelling stuff is always the kind that "fucks you up" more (especially if smoked/snorted) but definitively doesn't feel as clean of a "high" as the white powdered product. Mostly because of what you stated, purity reasons. An I.V. junkie doesn't wanna shoot up 6-monoacetylcodeine and risk having a possibly fatal seizure ( but honestly most don't give a fuck really). Though smoking the "white stuff" is more likely to result in a fatal neurological disease . Your already using heroin though so I guess it's a matter of "pick your poison". I stopped after I OD'd in front of my mom... seeing the emotional anguish that causes loved ones is not worth any high, imo.


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