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Invisible905
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Peel & Eat Cactus
    #887494 - 09/17/02 05:59 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I spent all last night peeling my peruvian torch.
I have a big tupperware full of wet green flesh & a little white.
I don't know how much to eat?
I thought maybe 6-7 oz?

Anybody know?

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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: 905]
    #887657 - 09/17/02 07:31 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I think its more how much you can stomach eating.........


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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #887671 - 09/17/02 07:36 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

yes, take a little taste and let us know how much you WANT to eat.  :grin:

Besides that, maybe check erowid.org or other sources for info. The amount will vary widely depending on the "goodness" of your cactus and the amount of water that is in it at the time. It may be safer (and easier to consume) if you boil it down to a syrup or candy.


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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #887701 - 09/17/02 07:44 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

These answers do not help.
I can eat whatever amount is required.
I know what it tastes like.
I want to eat the amount that contains 400 - 500 mg mescaline.

I prefer ralphsters spores, thank you.

Edited by 905 (09/17/02 07:47 AM)

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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: 905]
    #887813 - 09/17/02 08:18 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

High,
The dose is a kind of calulation which can help you.
You will need about 350mg Mescaline for a trip. While amounts of 100mg mescaline can be felt.
Well there is a figure which tell you how much mescaline a cacti approx contains.

With these to things you can calculate an aprox dosis.
Hoped to have helped you?!


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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: 905]
    #887875 - 09/17/02 08:37 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

good luck !


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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: T0aD]
    #888020 - 09/17/02 09:29 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: 905]
    #888075 - 09/17/02 09:55 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for trying.
All I have seen refers to one of these:
Dried whole cactus
Raw whole cactus
Dried green flesh
I have raw green flesh.

The piece I started with was 4 inch dia by 1 ft.

I may dry it or be a test subject.

Edited by 905 (09/17/02 09:57 AM)

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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: 905]
    #888352 - 09/17/02 11:32 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

i would do it all, split in 2 portions taken approx 2hrs apart. obviously, you will not proceed to portion 2 if you feel portion 1 is enough.


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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: 905]
    #889040 - 09/17/02 04:03 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Blend with your favourite citrus juice. The more bitter the citrus, the better! (Orange okay, but grapefruit or lemon better).

As for weight...start with half what you think might be a dose. Unfortunately it's hard to gauge with wet cactus.

PM me for more advice.

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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: comario2]
    #890339 - 09/18/02 05:02 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

The downside to doing two doses is....by the time you get around to dose 2 the stomach uncomfort has set in and you will likely vomit trying to swallow more of the horrible swill.


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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: 905]
    #890351 - 09/18/02 05:09 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

The flesh is what I would normally only reccomend to be ingested, not the whole cactus........so you did good by peeling......

a good dose would be an 8"-12" long section of cactus 3-4" wide


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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #890548 - 09/18/02 07:01 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I went ahead and dried it in the oven at 140 overnight.
I will grind & put in gelcaps.
I think I will stick to buying dried green flesh.
It is too much work peeling it. I am am growing some so I will
need to develop better methods.I learned a lot from my mistakes.

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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: 905]
    #891562 - 09/18/02 04:07 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

why to peel it? why dont you just cut the spines off?
i'd try about 500g fresh for my first time... and i would make a tea out of it since i don't really believe it can taste worse than 3g harmala boiled to one cup (yummy!!!)...
i think you might lose potency drying them in the oven... (yeah, boiling hard shouldn't be good too but i've not tried this one yet...)

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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: felixhigh]
    #896638 - 09/21/02 12:31 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

i dont think mescaline is as heat sensitive as psilocybin and psilocin...... i think boiling would be fine, i may be wrong.....correct me if needed :grin: thats the chance i take when opening my mouth before doing the research......lol 


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Re: Peel & Eat Cactus [Re: wrestler_az]
    #922276 - 10/01/02 10:24 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

boiling is fine. i always try to keep it to really really light boil (plus, i'm at 7,000ft elevation, so boiling temp is lower, which is cool). i think mescaline's boiling point is some 350 F. so it should be fine. i made tea with san pedro last time (which was my first time) and drank boiled down sludge. never again. next time i am despining, slicing into chips, drying in oven @ 150 degrees or so. then grinding and gelcapping. though i think that would be a shitload of gel caps. ack, i wish i could find methanol around here

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