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roasted27
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mason jar sterilization
#8871927 - 09/03/08 02:24 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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im sorry if this question has been answered a billion times.
but i have a boyfriend whos impatiant and were doing the procedures at the moment.
he just wants to know what temperature to sterilize the jars in a pressure cooker should be?
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willowmp
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: roasted27]
#8871933 - 09/03/08 02:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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throw some water in the PC and put the jars in and let it go for like 10 minutes after it is at pressure.
it would be easier to just boil them jars...
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: willowmp]
#8871947 - 09/03/08 02:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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You could just wash with soap and water. The next time you pc it your gonna be sterilizing the jar anyway.
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roasted27
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: willowmp]
#8871950 - 09/03/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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i agree with that.
but theres no exact temperature? just throw water in it and leave in the PC for 10mins?
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Krez
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: roasted27]
#8871965 - 09/03/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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If your gonna pc them just let it get to pressure, wait 10 min and youll be fine. I do believe the exact temp is 130?
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abitavenger
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: Krez]
#8871991 - 09/03/08 02:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Krez said: If your gonna pc them just let it get to pressure, wait 10 min and youll be fine. I do believe the exact temp is 130?
that temp doesnt sound right at all, sounds way too low, but i dont really know anyway so who knows lol
why is a temp needed for the pc? just wash the jars with soap and water and pc them with grain or brf in them and that will sterilize them
if you sterilize the jars before putting your grain in your just going to have to put un sterile grain in there and repeat the process, waste of time
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: roasted27]
#8872037 - 09/03/08 02:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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roasted27 said: im sorry if this question has been answered a billion times.
but i have a boyfriend whos impatiant and were doing the procedures at the moment.
he just wants to know what temperature to sterilize the jars in a pressure cooker should be?
Do you mean to sterilize the jars before you add grains??
If so, there is no need to do this.
Do you mean to sterilize the grains?
Then you need a PC with a 15 PSI weight and Sterilize them AT 15 PSI for 60 minutes or more.
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Krez
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: abitavenger]
#8872044 - 09/03/08 02:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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After doing a quick search spores have a thermal death of 106 degrees F. So I figure 130 degrees at around a 1/2 hr or maybe less will be fine. Again just wash with soap and water and next time you pc youre goin to sterilize them then.
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: Krez]
#8872058 - 09/03/08 02:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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for grain sterilization you aren't just killing other spores.
You are killing bacteria and endo-spores. 15 PSI at 60 minutes.
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Krez
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: Dickhead]
#8872088 - 09/03/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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throy said: for grain sterilization you aren't just killing other spores.
You are killing bacteria and endo-spores. 15 PSI at 60 minutes.
You're absolutely right but I think they wanted to just sterilize the jars.
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: Dickhead]
#8872111 - 09/03/08 02:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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throy said:
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roasted27 said: im sorry if this question has been answered a billion times.
but i have a boyfriend whos impatiant and were doing the procedures at the moment.
he just wants to know what temperature to sterilize the jars in a pressure cooker should be?
Do you mean to sterilize the jars before you add grains??
If so, there is no need to do this.
Do you mean to sterilize the grains?
Then you need a PC with a 15 PSI weight and Sterilize them AT 15 PSI for 60 minutes or more.
Glad you asked that Throy, I was just about to ask.
I always PC them for 90 just in case.
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: robanero]
#8872166 - 09/03/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I PC its only for 45 minutes at 15psi. I can see some of you like to go longer. 250F is about 15psi.
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: Dickhead]
#8872179 - 09/03/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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no no ...after we put the vemiculite in it. i didnt know how a pressure cooker worked.
but ok, we've got our heads out of the clouds for a bit.
how do i know what the psi is?
and is there a certain amount of time that im supposed to wait after i sterilize the jars before i inoculate them?
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Krez
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: roasted27]
#8872211 - 09/03/08 03:13 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most pcs will have a pressure gauge on top...If it doesnt read the directions it came with. Let the jars cool down overnight before inocluating them.
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: robanero]
#8872234 - 09/03/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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if you are doing the pf tek you do not have to pc them just put them in the pc with water and steam them for 90 mins. You can go here and watch how its done and the you should buy that DVD set. It's worth it.
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: robanero]
#8872287 - 09/03/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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^^^ I'm lovin' your avatar robanero!
I'd just boil the jars for a while though, no need for pressure...
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Krez
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: roasted27]
#8872310 - 09/03/08 03:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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roasted27 said: no no ...after we put the vemiculite in it. i didnt know how a pressure cooker worked.
but ok, we've got our heads out of the clouds for a bit.
how do i know what the psi is?
and is there a certain amount of time that im supposed to wait after i sterilize the jars before i inoculate them?
You are using more than verm in your cakes, right?
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: Krez]
#8872350 - 09/03/08 03:40 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah the brf method
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: Krez]
#8872534 - 09/03/08 04:21 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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in that case that would work to sterilize the jars..
If you are making jam or hot pickled beans for ceasars.
Alas if you are going to sterilize grains anyhow.. you don't need to sterilize the jars first.
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: Dickhead]
#8872966 - 09/03/08 06:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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ok....
right, if you have a presure cooker, use it. Not everyone has success steam sterilising.
if your pressure cooker doesnt have a gauge, there will be a weight, that once under pressure will release steam. This tells you the cooker is now reached pressure.
You dont want it furiously spewing out steam, just hissing nicely, otherwises the cooker will boil dry.
1-2 inches water is fine, turn heat on full, when steam starts escaping from the weight, turn down heat and adjust till you have a nice steady little hiss.
60 minutes and your done (you could probably get away with 45) wait for the cooker to cool naturally. Jars are ready to inoculate when they re cool (usually about 3 hours cooling)
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Re: mason jar sterilization [Re: veda_sticks]
#8872972 - 09/03/08 06:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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forgot to say, keep your jars raised out of the water, and definatly not touching the bottom or sides.
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