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OCD
    #8849168 - 08/29/08 07:40 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I need the guidance of SA. I decided to post this after reading the thread about which benzo should i choose.


Ok so no i have not been diagnosed with OCD, but, I am pretty sure that i do have multiple OCDs and possibly suffer from depression. Here are what I believe I have and the symptoms that make me feel that i have them:

Dermatillomania:
When i get an injury I constantly pick at it. This isn't like picking because it itches from healing, this is picking it and making it much worse. I have many scars from simple mosquito bites that i have picked open and constantly for months. I also eat the scabs that i pick off and when blood flows from them i suck the blood. Personally both the scabs and blood taste rather good for me, though I am not doing it for the taste. I pick consciously and unconsciously. I have tried to stop but have found I am unable to.

Onychophagia:
I bite my fingernails and the surrounding skin around them. It happens constantly. I have tried to stop but could not. It happens consciously and unconsciously. When i looked at the wikipedia of nail biting it shows a pic of an extreme nail biter, my fingernails usually look worse. I eat the fingernails and skin that i bite off. I have bitten my fingernails down to where it becomes painful. I have made myself bleed in the skin around the fingernails by causing hangnails and then biting those. I will continue to bite after it bleeds.

Depression:
I have had extreme mood swings drug induced and non-drug induced. Small things can trigger extreme mood swings in me. I will go from depressed feeling and having suicide thoughts to extremely pissed off sometimes. I do have dermatographism and when i was on Claritin every day after a few months i noticed i was loosing focus and getting more and more depressed. Suicide thoughts are common during the depression episodes and normally as the depression episode starts to pass i just wave the thoughts away thinking they are stupid. They have included thoughts of how to kill myself. I do not understand where the episodes come from, i was not abused as a child or anything like that.



So i am pretty much at a loss of what to do. I do not want to go to the doctor and that would be a last resort. I am only 18 and i could go but i am still living at home and to have my mother find out about my problems and stuff. Also seeing as i am 18 i really doubt the doc is guna wanna go here lemme give ya a script to some kpin and a healthy side order of Xanax.

So do you guys have any ideas? I know benzos would probably help after reading about them. I wouldn't be too reliant on them, the depression comes and goes but it isn't too frequent, although i guess i do go though mood swings on quite a normal basis. The Dermatillomania and Onychophagia is pretty much 24/7 so if there is anything you guys could think of. I have tried putting lotion and other things on my nails and stuff to make me not want to do it, yes it makes it taste bad, no it does not stop me.

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Re: OCD [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8849231 - 08/29/08 07:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

see a docter, and tell him/her about your concerns. maybe a mix of therapy and meds, until you can control it. 
dont worry about your mother, and dont let her stop you from seeking professional help.
good vibes to you

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Re: OCD [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8850279 - 08/29/08 11:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I have a tendency towards obsessive-compulsive disorder, but mushrooms essentially cured me of it.


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Re: OCD [Re: deCypher]
    #8850309 - 08/29/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

With the help of pot and pychedelics...I was able to rid myself once and for all the year long struggle I had with an intense case of OCD.

I thank my lucky stars everynight I dont have it anymore and I was able to move on.

Life was seeming impossible back then. But I made it out alive and so can you. :smile:


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Re: OCD [Re: Chazzersize]
    #8852867 - 08/30/08 03:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I dont think its necessary for this person to take mushrooms in an attempt to cure his symptoms that may or may not be OCD. You need to talk with a doctor or psychologist and get some better advice on how to approach your problem. Because of your age, I would say that drugs, including perscription medication should be avoided.

much of the problems you have seem to be engrained in your behaviors. you need to focus hard on avoiding those behaviors, and stopping those behaviors when you end up doing them

Depending on your mental/physical reaction to the forced cessation of those behaviors, you will be able to determine how necessary it is for you to seek the help of a clinician or psychiatrist. If you simply have some to moderate levels of anxiety... I would say, lay off the drugs and rough it though man. youll be stronger in the end because of it.

Remember they are just behaviors, and you have the ultimate say in what your body does, whether you move an arm up or down, and whether you bite something or not. It takes a ton of focus at first to cease such behaviors, but as time goes by and you do it more successfully, it will become easier. Expect lapses in your control from time to time, but with will and persistence eventually you will become better at recognizing urges to perform the behaviors and it will be easier to stop.

Most importantly you need to act while you are Still Young! It gets very hard to stop as you get older. That you've recognized that you need to change the situation at your age is a huge step forward, you really need to get on it before youve been doing it for another year, or five years... then it gets hard. You're young, take all that energy you got inside and direct it at stopping and preventing said behaviors. You can handle it. Best thing to do is redirect yourself to some activity that takes your mind off the urges, and also prevents you from physically being able to perform the behaviors easily. and focus really hard at that.


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Re: OCD [Re: ManianFH]
    #8852892 - 08/30/08 03:49 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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mickdawg666 said: You need to talk with a doctor or psychologist




The most likely result in this case will be their recommending you to go on prescription medication.

IMO, either seek cognitive therapy through your own means (there are plenty of extremely useful self-help books out there, and you don't have to pay exorbitant amounts of money to schedule appointments with a therapist), or try using mushrooms to help with your problems.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16304852/


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Re: OCD [Re: deCypher]
    #8853594 - 08/30/08 07:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

op here


Well the problem with going to the docs i feel is that they will think im just trying to get drugs and won't take me seriously.


I understand that it may be a behavioral problem and that you can stop it by trying really hard. but that is why i posted this and feel like i have OCD i have tried many times and it is impossible for me to stop.


It happens in my sleep. It happens without me being aware of it. Its like a crack user that has been addicted for around 10 years trying to just up and stop. it just doesn't work. of course i don't go through withdrawal but it starts back up on its own.


also in my post i stated i believe that i have tried things such as putting disgusting lotion on the cuts and nails. yes it tastes bad, no, it will not stop be from doing it.

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Re: OCD [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8861084 - 09/01/08 03:02 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Hey OP,

It sounds to me like you have Dermatillomania and you are spot on in viewing it as a subcategory of OCD.  It is very closely related to OCD and usually treated with similar methods and medications as OCD.

Benzos will help deal with the anxiety but there are not a typical first line of treatment for OC-Spectrum disorders. 

You should try to find a therapist who knows how to do Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT).  The choice to take medication is your call, typical treatment is usually done with SSRIs.  If there is additional issues with anxiety a benzo might be prescribed but chances are you need to learn strategies to deal with the anxiety related to the urges to pick and that is done in CBT. 

From what I've heard, a therapist will teach you "competing response training" - which will be like - when you feel the urge to bite your nails - sit on your hands! 

I would recommend going to this site:
http://www.ocfoundation.org/

and e-mailing a provider in your area explaining what is going on and asking if there is anyone in the area that does CBT.  Although the web site is for OCD the providers on their list should be familiar with all OC-Spectrum Disorders and either be able to treat you themselves or direct you to someone that can help.

If you want more info feel free to send me a PM with any questions I know a lot of people in OCD. 

Good luck!!

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Re: OCD [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8867774 - 09/02/08 06:52 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Additional resources:

www.trich.org
www.StopPicking.com

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