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Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub)
    #8860739 - 09/01/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I just ordered one syringe of cambodian spores the other night, and I plan on collecting supplies and building a monotub this week. This will be my first attempt at growing mushrooms, so I am kind of confused about various aspects of the process.

Basically, what are the main steps (i.e. substrate, casing, etc.) and what are the best materials to use for these? I have been searching around for a good tek or log that goes into detail about all of this, but I havent found anything that explains it to the point where I understand everything fully. I see many monotub logs that use WBS to colonize the spores in jars, which are then spawned with horse manure. Does this mean that the colonized jars are broken up and mixed with horse manure in the monotub? Then, a casing layer is added, which Im guessing that the casing is just spread on top once the manure and bird seed have fully colonized? And from there, the only step is to wait for the shrooms to grow?

Also, I am trying to do this secretly, so I dont want a lot of smell coming from the monotub. Wont using horse manure make my apartment smell like a horses ass?


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: thizzness]
    #8860765 - 09/01/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

This should be interesting...


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: SkekTek]
    #8860769 - 09/01/08 02:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you should do cakes first, better to learn from a small mistake then a huge one


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: SkekTek]
    #8860782 - 09/01/08 02:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

But from what I've looked at, the difference between cakes and a bulk grow in a monotub is only a few steps, so I don't see why I shouldn't try to do a monotub first. And there's enough time to research methods that I shouldn't make any huge mistakes. And besides, that's why I posted this thread: to make sure that I don't make any huge mistakes.


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: dj02220]
    #8860836 - 09/01/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

How I would do it.

I prefer rye, you soak it in a tub with some coffee grounds over night then simmer for 10 mins then strain then load into jars 3 quarters full and pc at 15psi for 90 mins

Inject some spore solution into the jars allow to colonise 30% then shake the hell out of them then leave till 100%

manure and coir 70%/30% pasteurised together then allow to cool then grab your jars and shake the hell out of them again and mix well into the manure coir ....you can layer it if you wish but I don't.

leave to colonise, then add a 50/50 casing layer peat/verm or coir/verm I like both really and chop and change all the time .....anyway apply a 100mm depth casing spread evenly across the surface of your bulk and that's it really


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: thizzness]
    #8860843 - 09/01/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: dj02220]
    #8860905 - 09/01/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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dj02220 said:
you should do cakes first, better to learn from a small mistake then a huge one




You should definitely not do cakes the first time. I did, and they sucked. So I made a few casings out of the remaining
cakes I had and put them in a 10 gal glass fish tank with perlite and they turned out great. Don't waste your time with
cakes. You can get much more out of tubs or casings and it's easier.


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: BrandNewbie]
    #8860913 - 09/01/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

if your going to use WBS go with Doc's WBS tek and follow it to a T


the only change i made to the tek when i did it was to add a full pot of liquid coffee to the soak water, and my quart jars colonized super fast from syringe. some things to consider:

Use Tyvek on the lids to prevent contams. Follow a tyvek tek.

use coco coir, its easy, fast, and i have seen great results mixed or unmixed with poo.

you don't need a casing layer, but if you do use a casing that is close to nutrient free to prevent overlay.

be sterile during inoculation, for example a bathroom lysoled/ousted and in said bathroom a sterilized glovebox. it will greatly reduce contams.

turn your AC up to like 90 degrees on the thermostat and wait for the AC to turn off before lysol/ousting the bathroom. that way the moldy air coming out of the vent isn't blowing into your bathroom.

read a few monotub teks. if you read one you have nothing to compare the results to, the more you read the more chances you don't mess up.

use a hotknife for cutting plastic if you can get one. it makes smooth nice and easy cuts with no chance of cracking your monotub. i used a mini bernzomatic one. it came in a kit, the torch is a little bigger then a pen and fatter, all black. it has this screw-on tool attachment thing that has different tool heads like a soldering head set. the triangular hotknife attachment works very good once you get the flame set to the right amount.

get yourself a big pressure cooker :yesnod:


those are some of the tips off the top of my head.


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: willowmp]
    #8861043 - 09/01/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Here's another good alternative to cakes:

Double Tub Pictorial


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: Asmarian]
    #8861085 - 09/01/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

no your apt wont smell like a horses ass. It should be good and aged (weathered) so it will smell earthy.


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: Citratox]
    #8861107 - 09/01/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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no your apt wont smell like a horses ass. It should be good and aged (weathered) so it will smell earthy.






and your house won't smell like mushrooms either :o


well it may change the smell in your closet a tad bit but my bong smells more then my monotub growing mushies so it shouldn't be a problem.



on a side note: thank god for IPA and salt. my bong was dirty ass before i cleaned it and it was stinking up my closet :methisgood:


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: willowmp]
    #8903569 - 09/09/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I've tried to get started on my grow. I prepared some WBS per Doc's tek, but my PC is a piece of junk that doesn't work very well, so I ended up melting the tyvek in all the jars. I opened one jar up, and it looks like the tyvek only melted on the lid, so maybe the WBS is still ok to use. The grain doesn't look burnt, so I'll inoculate a few jars tomorrow and see how that goes. If it doesn't work...oh well.

I guess I'll start preparing some more WBS and buy a new PC that actually works.


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: thizzness]
    #9000358 - 09/28/08 10:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

First Ive herd of tyvek melting.

Try a coffee filter instead next time. They cant/wont melt..


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: Jetro]
    #9013065 - 10/01/08 12:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I ended up buying a new pressure cooker and my tyvek didn't melt this time. The jars colonized for a few weeks and I just mixed them with straight coir a couple days ago. When the coir is fully colonized, I'll probably put a casing layer on top. Any recommendations? I'd like something that I could just buy from the store pre-mixed.


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Re: Planning a first grow (cambodian in monotub) [Re: dj02220]
    #10153872 - 04/12/09 07:01 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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dj02220 said:
you should do cakes first, better to learn from a small mistake then a huge one




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