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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: Gastronomicus]
#8861643 - 09/01/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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The pledge seems kinda fascist to me. Why not pledge to just liberty and justice for all?; cut out the middle-man?
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: Gastronomicus]
#8861663 - 09/01/08 04:39 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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How often did the founding fathers even use the phrase "under God"?
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: zouden]
#8861672 - 09/01/08 04:41 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm... it's looking like a grand total of 0. Palin is even more stupid then I had originally anticipated.
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Chemy
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: zouden]
#8861717 - 09/01/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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zouden said: How often did the founding fathers even use the phrase "under God"?
The argument that I put forth is that Palin was referring to "God" being good enough for the founding fathers.
Of course I and everyone else (except possibly Palin) knows that the original PoA written 1892 without "under God" modified 1951 to include "under God" could not have been known by the founding fathers unless they were psychic prophets, I just don't know.
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8861876 - 09/01/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: So this chick is apparently as dumb as a box of rocks.
I can't wait 'till they make her debate Biden.
Although you can rest assured that all of the idiot Republicans will love the fact that she is clueless. They will say "See, she's just a regular person!" because they don't know any of this shit either.
A Dumb women V.P., a dumb president Bush, a bad economy, unpopular war, Etc.
If obama and the democrats have any skills they should easily walk into the white house.
right?
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: lonestar2004]
#8861937 - 09/01/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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No!
The electorate in this country is bitterly divided.
Obama could quite literally be the perfect candidate and 50% of the country would oppose him for no reason except he has a big (D) next to his name.
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8862058 - 09/01/08 05:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: No!
The electorate in this country is bitterly divided.
Obama could quite literally be the perfect candidate and 50% of the country would oppose him for no reason except he has a big (D) next to his name.
i think its more like 40%/40% both ways and 10 percent of the country in a few swing states decide....
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: lonestar2004]
#8862185 - 09/01/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said:
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Madtowntripper said: No!
The electorate in this country is bitterly divided.
Obama could quite literally be the perfect candidate and 50% of the country would oppose him for no reason except he has a big (D) next to his name.
i think its more like 40%/40% both ways and 10 percent of the country in a few swing states decide....
and that ten percent will one day be comprised of libertarians, and we will force the bastards to start legalizing freedom and leaving us the fuck alone
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lonestar2004
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: johnm214]
#8862189 - 09/01/08 06:21 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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johnm214 said:
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lonestar2004 said:
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Madtowntripper said: No!
The electorate in this country is bitterly divided.
Obama could quite literally be the perfect candidate and 50% of the country would oppose him for no reason except he has a big (D) next to his name.
i think its more like 40%/40% both ways and 10 percent of the country in a few swing states decide....
and that ten percent will one day be comprised of libertarians, and we will force the bastards to start legalizing freedom and leaving us the fuck alone
i hope you're right.
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Re: Palin believes the founding fathers wrote the pledge! [Re: lonestar2004]
#8863004 - 09/01/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said:
A Dumb women V.P., a dumb president Bush, a bad economy, unpopular war, Etc.
If obama and the democrats have any skills they should easily walk into the white house.
right?
That's the idea. See you in November
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