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Moleculture
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I feel on the molecular level
#8847654 - 08/29/08 02:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most days I am walking around (sober) just seeing the world around me on the molecular level. Doors, people, plants, animals, liquids, whatever--it all appears to me as the mysterious composition of molecules. I don't see everyday life as normal people do.
All I can think of is the micro-climate and the molecules of that world, and what is the micro-climate of that micro world. It cannot end, our perception of scale is skewed and has to be false. I'm not saying I see the world in the Hollywood-matrix of green numbers, but I sense things on a heightened level and have this constant awareness that far exceeds even my own imagination.
There is no scale, because to acknowledge that there is a real scale to all this is to admit that it ends at some point. Go small (micro) or big (universe of our universe) there cannot be a brick wall on either side. What we know at this point in time, is no more than the progression of our discovery. But much more lies out there.
I felt this was better suited in P&S than science, because it just cannot be explained by science or medicine what I feel.
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Moleculture]
#8847984 - 08/29/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Science has a decent grasp on delusion.
What can you do with these super powers to impress us 'normal' people?
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What is delusional about his POV? It seems to me that all he's saying is he sees things in terms of their molecular composition. Did you think he meant literally?
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Lion]
#8848003 - 08/29/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can only read what he wrote. If I do more than that I am making huge assumptions.
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Lion]
#8848004 - 08/29/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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it just cannot be explained by science or medicine what I feel.
Sounds pretty literal to me.
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redgreenvines
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c'mon, orgy, its a walking meditation
moleculture, i think the word is particleculture more than moleculture unless you are a biochemist and have these models affecting your ordinary vision.
i can relate to being immersed in a particulate universe. the finest resolution of our senses is fragments or particles but it is not molecular.
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: redgreenvines]
#8848055 - 08/29/08 03:21 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bad, bad, Shmoopy. What was I thinking believing that molecular meant molecular?
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Moleculture]
#8848087 - 08/29/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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pffft... I see the world as wave functions and fields
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Moleculture]
#8848158 - 08/29/08 03:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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, but I sense things on a heightened level and have this constant awareness that far exceeds even my own imagination.
I seriously doubt this statement.
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Icelander]
#8848218 - 08/29/08 04:10 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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OK, Thomas.
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pff come on guys don't be stupid. orgone why are you hanging around in p&s if you rarely take someone seriously?
moleculture: When I'm looking at something and I'm really in the moment I see it much differently from when I'm not present or aware. It seems more vibrant and alive, and I feel like I can see more clearly. Are we talking about the same feeling?
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it just cannot be explained by science or medicine what I feel.
Sounds pretty literal to me.
Well, if I am to understand the OPs train of thought, science can't determine for us which perspective we choose in this matter.
We might choose to see reality from a particular standpoint - atoms, molecules and so on.
On the other hand, one might choose to see reality from a relative standpoint - which concerns the basic relativity between peaks and troughs of waves.
Scientific empiricism can arise from of both methods, but its a matter of preference and approach that determines which of these ways we see things. For example, a chemist deals with compounds, and a physicist deals with waves. Whether we live in a finite world or infinite world is at this point a philosophical question.
What is interesting to me, is even if we do somehow discover that reality is infinite, we will still undoubtedly deal with it in finite terms - At this point, what will be the status of those scientists dealing with the world in this old fashioned way, such as the chemist? Will they become explicitly known as artists rather than scientists?
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Moleculture]
#8848306 - 08/29/08 04:33 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you can feel things on a molecular level then that means you can feel your own body like this right?
If so, who are you then?
You cant find a brick wall at either end of the manifest universe so in what way are you resitricted? Are you the molecules or are you there to feel them?
Deeply look, if your at this heightened sensitivity this enquiry should work wonders....
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: arne]
#8848812 - 08/29/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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arne said: pff come on guys don't be stupid. orgone why are you hanging around in p&s if you rarely take someone seriously?
moleculture: When I'm looking at something and I'm really in the moment I see it much differently from when I'm not present or aware. It seems more vibrant and alive, and I feel like I can see more clearly. Are we talking about the same feeling?
Everyone does this. You are normal.
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Icelander]
#8850906 - 08/30/08 02:09 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
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arne said: pff come on guys don't be stupid. orgone why are you hanging around in p&s if you rarely take someone seriously?
moleculture: When I'm looking at something and I'm really in the moment I see it much differently from when I'm not present or aware. It seems more vibrant and alive, and I feel like I can see more clearly. Are we talking about the same feeling?
Everyone does this. You are normal.
That's not much consolation, though.
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Sleepwalker]
#8851017 - 08/30/08 02:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I find whatever object or situation I'm focusing on becomes more vibrant or "alive" than normal. That's part of the nature of human consciousness. I'm sure everybody else's reality has different focuses and vibrations, doesn't mean they lack focuses or vibrations - we just don't share the same reality.
It's the beauty of being alive, though. Your own perspective of the universe is absolutely unique.
I once had that "molecular awareness" on some LSD and shrooms at once, though. It was one of my best trips ever, and I gained quite some understanding of chemistry.
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gonna quote you
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: Moleculture]
#8851289 - 08/30/08 07:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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its called being right-brained
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Re: I feel on the molecular level [Re: sirbojangles]
#8854816 - 08/31/08 01:07 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah sounds like too much LSD.
had something like that happen once. i hate that feeling.
to say its defintely molecular may be overstating, granular may be a better fit, we should figure out a way to test.
like 10 bowls of water, and in one of them is a colorless, oderless substance. see if you can feel the molecular difference.
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