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Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment?
    #885046 - 09/16/02 07:51 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Today is Yom Kippur, High Holy Day of Judaism. Observant Jews of all denominations will make some attempt to keep this day in remembrance. Some will be fasting, and spending the day in the synagogue, pretty much like the average 'Christian' attends church on Christmas, and the equivalent Holy Day, Easter. For mainstream Christians, atonement for the sins of Mankind was made once and for all by the self-sacrificial death of the 'Lamb of God,' Jesus. The written of 'veil' covering the Holy of Holies in the Jerusalem temple, ripped from top to bottom - from Heaven to Earth, at the moment when Jesus died. A symbolic and a metaphysical 'rending' of the cosmos is said to have occurred during the moment when Jesus 'passed over,' when His 'At-one-ment' with God became total. That rending-of-the-plane allowed for Eternal Forgiveness to flow from God to the Earth, absolving all of us of our evil, if we ask for it. So much for Christian doctrine. This historical event is more importantly a 'psychocosmic' event that is supposed to occur in the Holy of Holies in each believer - in one's Heart (He Art).

I am a marginal Jew at best, and rejected by Jews as an 'apostate,' a heretic, because I regard Jesus (Y'shua) as the Messiah. Although there are no students in the school where I work today, I went in. I am home for lunch, and going back
to work to finish Gershom Scholem's book 'On the Mystical Shape of the Godhead,' which is a fabulous book on the basic teachings of the Kabbala. Scholem says little about Christian doctrine, but as one reads this Kabbalistic and at times Gnostic material, one can see how certain curious Christians read and adapted the material to Christianity.

Lots of Jews I know have zero spirituality in their lives, but come hell-or-high-water, they're gonna be in temple today, even if tickets cost $200.00! Meanwhile, I'm the 'no-goodnick' because I didn't think that fasting for one day was gonna absolve me of all the sins and selfishness that I'm about every year (any more than going to church on Easter is gonna do much either), so I left mainstream Judaism in a quest for Truth. If a person isn't continually looking at themselves with the goal of self-knowledge, then the ultimate goal of Knowledge of God will be quite impossible. One day a year searching one's soul leaves 364 days unattended to. God does not dwell in filthy places, and since it is our Psychospiritual interiors, our Heart of Hearts, which makes for the 'mercey seat' upon which the Holy Spirit of God comes to dwell, the inner discipline is to keep our inner lives 'well swept.'

I seem to confuse people, but I don't mean to. I want to Realize the saying I picked up in seminary: 'The New Testament is concealed in the Old Testament; the Old Testament is revealed in the New Testament.' As long as people take artificial sides, exclude each other in the outer world; they'll never ever Realize the Oneness of Truth, or why the one Bible contains both sets of Scriptures.

I am not addressing this to anyone out there who has merely rejected the whole picture that I am describing, so if you respond with mere criticism, I'm not going to respond anyway. I suppose this is more attempt on my part to dig deeper into existing form, looking for the Treasure of Truth, and looking for others who want to dig, not just walk away from the obvious.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #885134 - 09/16/02 08:35 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Thank you Markos. I do not find this thread or you confusing anymore. You have explained yourself sufficiently to me that I can understand you as well as I am able in this medium.

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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: ]
    #885211 - 09/16/02 09:18 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

i wonder how mr.mushrooms opinion would have differed if we were all moderators,i am sorry mr.mushrooms if all of a sudden you have had a sudden change of heart, i do not count that possibility out. Further tomy point i wonder how long swami would last as moderator before he either went insane or nuts.

Spirituality, philosophy, and old paradigm politics.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #885319 - 09/16/02 10:06 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

> if you respond with mere criticism, I'm not going to respond anyway

MERE CRITICISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: pattern]
    #885345 - 09/16/02 10:15 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Forget what i said i was just testing to see if that reply would come up,using the illusions, it feels as though i am talking to myself with all of you. in a sense i am validating my observations through experience.

What i have caused, is myself to demonstrate ego and experienced the effect of my cause.

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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: ]
    #885361 - 09/16/02 10:20 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Thanks for your response. Whether you agree or disagree with the position is not as important as a corroboration of my attempts to clarify my position to others.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #885412 - 09/16/02 10:38 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Every position has validility, as every opinion is within the alpha and omega. However it would be of great spiritual profit to constantly come from a place of love, not ego, that is the message here, a message we all need to heed.

many are caught in the time warp that for love to be experienced, fear must be in place also, this is illusion. the illusion is necassary most profitably within memory, not present experience, this is the whole purpose for physical exsistance, the illusion as a contextual field,not an eternally physical reality. it is time now to leave behind the illusions. to do this come from a place of love within yourself and soon it will begin to project unto others, yours will be the light that truly heals the world. The voice in CWG is your voice, say cheese, you are on camera.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: ViBrAnT]
    #885431 - 09/16/02 10:46 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

No change of heart or mind.

It's all good baby.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: ]
    #885484 - 09/16/02 11:10 AM (19 years, 8 days ago)

The whole problem i see right now on this site is that all of us are trying to do our way to mastery by trying to influx vast amounts of knowledge. You are seeking to escape the illusion from within the illusion, everyone here is doing this. it will serve you to move out of your mind and into a state of being, allowing god to flow through you, not you trying to swim upstream to god. "Stop telling me your truth so i can start telling you mine". This is what he meant.

You will become the stream of eternal wisdom when you simply choose to step outside of the illusions. This is the secret: you step outside by moving inside to your energy centres.


You are constantly meditating on a white light encompassing them, once you have glimpsed liberation you will know what to do as you will begin having your own conversation with god as I. You will literally feel the love within and you will begin projecting it outward, because this is your natural state. Just look at the way Hot diffuses into cold. Life is its own metaphor. Your grandest vision awaits you and grander still spiralling into eternity and foreverafter.

i love you all with all my heart

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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: ViBrAnT]
    #885664 - 09/16/02 01:52 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Just let go, and let God.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #885735 - 09/16/02 02:39 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Mark,
Not criticism, but you are no longer a jew. If you accept Jeshua as Mosiach, then you have commited the sin of worshipping a false messiah, according to the texts.
There is no charge for services today. They will not turn anyone away. I agree with what you stated that "everyone is jewish today". I don't pretend to be an observant jew, but I do know the laws.
And I do take offense in what you say here because although I don't believe in or practice Judaism, nothing pisses me off more than others denouncing the original religion, the one that christianity bases itself on.:
"Lots of Jews I know have zero spirituality in their lives, but come hell-or-high-water, they're gonna be in temple today, even if tickets cost $200.00! Meanwhile, I'm the 'no-goodnick' because I didn't think that fasting for one day was gonna absolve me of all the sins and selfishness that I'm about every year (any more than going to church on Easter is gonna do much either), so I left mainstream Judaism in a quest for Truth. "

Most jews have a great deal of spirituality. And secondly, what makes you feel that "mainstream Judaism is false and "christianity" is truth. I think they're both full of shit. You stepped out of mud and into shit by swapping religion. That's my criticism part.

Peace to you (traitor!)  :laugh:
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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: ViBrAnT]
    #885799 - 09/16/02 03:25 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

In reply to:

it feels as though i am talking to myself with all of you.



maybe it's because you ARE talking to yourself? we are all ONE and the same entity... experiencing itself in infinite different ways...

oh and vibrant! have you read "communion with god" by neale donald walsh? it certainly looks like it... every single illusion of mankind is explained in detail in that book... and i know you'll agree with me that we should not destroy the illusions, but merely recognize them as what they are and start using them to create our experiences...


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: In(di)go]
    #885861 - 09/16/02 04:19 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

I'd just like to let you guys know that I won't be joining your "cult of one".

We're not all one. This statement is based on the metaphysical assumption that there is a metaphysical aspect to existence... that there is a divine nature to reality. As such, that statement is grounded in faith... not reason. And I have just one thing to say about that: Faith that isn't blind, isn't faith.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #885881 - 09/16/02 04:27 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Are you distinguishing all actions as political, in the sense that we aren't isolated and are actions are continually effecting our planetary evolution of consciousness, as opposed to belief systems which do not validate our moment-by-moment actions and idealize Truths that we actually are more readily willing to exploit?


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Sclorch]
    #885900 - 09/16/02 04:35 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

I'd just like to let you guys know that I won't be joining your "cult of one".

Your already in it, you just don't know it.  :grin: 


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Adamist]
    #885911 - 09/16/02 04:39 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

Your already in it, you just don't know it


khiiiiiihihihihihih  :tongue:


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Sclorch]
    #886003 - 09/16/02 05:04 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Party pooper! :tongue:


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #886022 - 09/16/02 05:08 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

For after all there is but one great Heart
Which beats our own,
And we must rise to fairer realms
Where we atone,
At-one with all that really lives,
For paradise is Life that gives


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: ViBrAnT]
    #886067 - 09/16/02 05:22 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Vibrant.. i feel like i could completely let go if i wanted.. like turning on a light switch...
but there is something holding me back.. and im not sure what... fear? or something else..

maybe cuz i know once im there i will never look back.. and im afraid ill leave something behind. something more worthwhile than complete peace and harmony..?


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Grav]
    #886079 - 09/16/02 05:25 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Take care not to make me enter
Cuz if I do we both may disappear...


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Adamist]
    #886089 - 09/16/02 05:28 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

You couldn't be enter if you tried. :smile:


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #886114 - 09/16/02 05:34 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

So, both religions are "full of shit," but I am a traitor? The only reason I am bothering to write is to illustrate to other readers the exact reason why I left mainstream Judaism on my quest to Christ. People like you. Irrational, emotional and so identified with victim-mentality and a persecution complex, that you can spit venom; and call a Jewish Christian (oh, yes, like the original Jews who became Christians) a "traitor." There is NOTHING worse than a Jewish bigot like yourself. The hypocrasy of so-called cultural Jews like yourself still astounds me. I was born of a Jewish Mother, so try that on for your so-called knowledge of Jewish law. I was circumcized into the Abrahamic Covenant. I received a Hebrew education, and I left family and friend alike to avoid the Hell of being a neurotic, unbeliever like you and ask God to transform me into a Jew like Y'shua ha
Messiach (Jesus the Christ).

The few Jews that I have known that were spiritual, were Hasidim. I do not know any spiritually-minded Jews who have not left Judaism, but unlike yourself, I cannot claim to know "most" Jews. The great majority of cultural Jews like yourself pay lip-service, but their life-styles reveal their real values (by and large the grossly materialistic ones that I've abhorred since childhood). This very day I pulled up behind a Porche Carrera with one of those 'Baruch ha car' ornaments on the rear-view mirror. For the Gentiles out there, it is supposed to be a blessing for the car. You can tell a lot about what people 'idolize' by what they hang from a rear view mirror.

Mainstream Judaism is as off-the-mark as mainstream Christianity, but unlike you, whose language reveals your own soul, I revere the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus. You revere Him not, or you wouldn't not refer to His Covenants as "mud" and "shit.' Therefore, your appraisal of my spiritual path is worthless, and betrays nothing but your own sick soul. +++Be Thou Healed in His Holy Name+++


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Adamist]
    #886121 - 09/16/02 05:36 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Nice.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #886129 - 09/16/02 05:40 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Are you intentionally trying to confuse a feeble old man? Can you clarify a tad?


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #886172 - 09/16/02 05:56 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Dude,
Lighten up. You're far too serious in this. Apparantly I'm not a practicing "anything". The traitor comment, probably wrong on my behalf, was one that you probably heard often? Most of the great minds of the 60's and 70's out in california institutes of learning were jews, not unlike myself who dropped the pretext of holier than thou mainstream jews. You've exchanged yours for a holier than thou christian attitude.
Yes, there are materialistic people of christian and jewish descent. You only note the jewish ones though.
And you are correct. I revere not. I gave up long ago on a belief system that shows exclusivity,ie judaism and christianity.
Don't show anger and hate...no..no.. no. It's not WWJD, if you know what I mean.

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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #886202 - 09/16/02 06:16 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

What-ever. Judaism is still exclusive, while Christianity is catholic if understood properly. That is, small 'c' catholic, meaning universal, not the Catholic Church, which is just as exclusive as Judaism. I'm not a Jew who wants to be Gentile. I'm a human who wants to be Spirit, and my humanity is colored by Eastern European Reformed Jewish tradition. Everyone is some ethnicity or another, and one is no better or worse than another, but it's what you 'mold the clay' into that 'matters.'

Rabbinic Judaism does nothing to transform me. Kabbalistic Jewish theology is another story, and works in consonance with Christian theology (which is why there were Christian Kabbalists). I can relate Sacred matters with Sacred language without copping a "holier than thou" attitude. A Holy attitude IS something that I want to cultivate, as opposed to a merely profane attitude. To you, such an attitude may seem alien and excessive. Maybe you've 'lightened up' too much. One day, you'll have to stop laughing and get serious about something significant.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #886566 - 09/16/02 08:22 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

No Markos... you are a bit on the serious side.
At least that's what your posts show.

You should hit up on Nietzsche's "seriousness"- it's an entirely different animal.
Of course... you probably don't like Fred....


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Sclorch]
    #887023 - 09/17/02 02:17 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

I'm gonna get to God in this lifetime - that is my goal. I have already wasted too much time being wasted in my youth.

Inasmuch as modern depth psychology has a foundation in Nietzsche, and I wrote a doctoral dissertation (albeit, 20 years ago), on depth psychology, then I have read and included him in my own development. Syphilitic genius that he was, and howsoever dismayed he was by the Nazi's appropriation and bastardization of his work, he certainly isn't going to help me towards my spiritual goal.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #887104 - 09/17/02 03:21 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

I'm gonna get to God in one lifetime - that is my goal


hmmm... don't mean to pop your bubble, but i think it already took you quite a few lifetimes to get where you are now :grin: ... so i think your goal sould be im gonna get to God in  this lifetime..


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: In(di)go]
    #887105 - 09/17/02 03:23 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

I'm not counting or anything... but I've had several hundred lifetimes that I'm aware of. Usually coming in flashes, man..lots of experiences.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #887361 - 09/17/02 06:52 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

I pulled up behind a Porche Carrera with one of those 'Baruch ha car' ornaments on the rear-view mirror.

Would you have felt less scorn if the car had been a broken-down Ford Pinto?


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Shroomism]
    #887370 - 09/17/02 06:55 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

Were you ever a hot chick in a mini-skirt, with high heels and fishnets?


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #887499 - 09/17/02 08:01 AM (19 years, 7 days ago)

I bet you've only read "Nietzsche in 90 minutes" and maybe one of his shorter books. His having syphilis is speculation at best. I think his breakdown was stress-induced... years of being a lonely genius could easily do that. But I digress...

Markos, your goal is completely ego-driven. I'm sorry that you feel that you've wasted your youth (hell, maybe you have), but no one really finds your god. It's almost tragic...


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #888488 - 09/17/02 02:15 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

Once I spoke in tongues for 3 1/2 hours in a church with a presence guilding me to be at peace and to allow the message come through me.
Once on 4 dark purple geltabs with flakes of gold the same presence showed me that just moments earlier I had dissolved the bible on my tongue and that I was ready to have the message explained to me.

To exist through: Unconditional acceptance, understanding, and allowance to move with the flow.

Means don't fall into judgement, arrogance... etc...
From all that I have been privy too... jewdism/christianity seems to have developed from mushroom use. And all these years the Grand Inquisitors have been feeding the masses with their version of reality.
I can think many many many things worse than a bigot, which in the end would only exist in my mind.
When was the last time you consumed a psychedelic...? just curious.

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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Shroomism]
    #888505 - 09/17/02 02:20 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

In reply to:

but I've had several hundred lifetimes that I'm aware of. Usually coming in flashes, man..lots of experiences.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: In(di)go]
    #888698 - 09/17/02 03:23 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

Thanks. My bad.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Swami]
    #888723 - 09/17/02 03:32 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

Absolutely! Such a car would NEED the Blessings to continue to exist. I would not see a religious symbol used in the Madonna-like way of a mere ornament on one's ear - on the symbolic periphery of one's being; or in a way to manifest the notion that 'I am Blessed materially,' and therefore Blessed - here is evidence on wheels. Moreover, and I could be wrong, but unless one has ungodly sums of money, the purchase of a very expensive car has all kinds of self-esteem, social status, gold-digger babe-magnet associations constellated around it. These things are completely peripheral to spiritual existence that it is just like ruby-encrusted solid gold crosses, or other extravagant obscenities that pass for true religion...IMHO  :smile: 


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: Sclorch]
    #888743 - 09/17/02 03:41 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

No, I've read the Nietzschean works in the non-Reader's Digest condensed versions.

I think that instead of believing you, I'll believe all the prophets, mystics and visionaries of my own faith; my own God-given experiences; the Holy Scriptures; personal testimonies of those whom I have felt were genuinely advanced in spiritual development; and last but certainly not least...my own faith. You see, I am in very good company.

I wasted a lot of time being wasted, but I did not waste my youth. In fact, I'm still amazingly youthful in my 'morphogenetic field,' as I still get 'carded' on occasion for alcohol or club admission. It's probably residual magick from my youth :smile: 


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #888747 - 09/17/02 03:41 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

I take it you're not an Albert Ellis fan.


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    #889024 - 09/17/02 05:58 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

You'd be right.


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: DasKomet]
    #889045 - 09/17/02 06:05 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

There have been people in Judeao-Christian traditions that have been made aware of Amanitas, or the Holy Annointing oil in Exodus which cantained calamus, which contains TMA, which is like mescaline - but the mushroom is not the Source of these traditions. That is just projection based on your own experiences that make sense.

I can't admit to recent use of entheogens. I've given real info on my profile. Do you think the DEA does not enjoy reading these posts from time to time? I have licenses, certifications, etc. Does not some 30 years of entheogenic experience account for a permanently psychedelicised soul? What does the calendar have to do with transpersonal, transcendental aspects of my being?


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Re: Day of Atonement, or Day of At-one-ment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #889069 - 09/17/02 06:16 PM (19 years, 7 days ago)

Neither am I.

Probably for the same reasons.


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