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Offlinebladerunnerss
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Re-Hydrate Casing
    #884214 - 09/15/02 09:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

1.How does one go about re-hydrating a casing and getting more than one flush?

2.when PC'ing PF style substrate jars, do you leave the jar lids loose or tight? does the substrate dry at all from the heat and at the same time gain moisture from penetrating steam into the jars, assuming the jar lids are loose?
What technique do you use personally?

3.Is there any dissadvantage to using cakes that have just finished one flush to be used in casings? Or is it unquestionably better to use cakes that just came out of the galss jar for casings?


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Re: Re-Hydrate Casing [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #885443 - 09/16/02 10:50 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

As far as the first two questions are concerned, I'd say look in the MMGG, or the PF TEK it should have that information.

The third question is one I thought of myself, and disregarded as a silly notion, however I would also like to see if anyone has input on it, if they have tried casing with an already flushed cake. My thoughts is it would possibly still be trying to pin under a casing layer therefore rotting and messing shit up. ANY 1 HELP ?

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Re: Re-Hydrate Casing [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #886378 - 09/16/02 07:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I havn't had good success rehydrating casings. I just try to keep them hydrated.


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Re: Re-Hydrate Casing [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #886422 - 09/16/02 07:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Make a solution of 1/10 peroxide to waterand dunk for24 hours. then dyr off and put in a container for 2 days and place in incubator , then case the suckers


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Re: Re-Hydrate Casing [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #886600 - 09/16/02 08:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

EDIT: ok I see what is in the FAQ
In reply to:

After harvest, you should apply casing material to any areas of the casing layer which were disturbed by harvest (casing layer attached to stems, etc.) and, if necessary, add small amounts of casing material to the casing where it has pulled from the sides of the casing container. This will protect any substrate which has become exposed to open air from possible airborne contaminates. At the last, you should mist the repaired casing layer with water. Now, you can put the casing back in the terrarium by again increasing RH to 95%+ until the pins emerge and the cycle begins anew.




heres my original post:

I was looking to have that first question answered. My friends bearded dragon needs guidance. From the lack of a response im assuming that people get one big fat flush out of a casing and then toss all that hard work into the trash.

I think this is what ill advise the bearded dragon to do:

Deep scratch the top layer of the completly dryed out casing. Remove and throw away the top that has just been skimmed.

Apply a thin fresh casing substrate.

Take hand sprayer and spray a full hand sprayers worth of water onto that top layer allowing the water to filter through all the layers of the casing, almost down to the bottom so that its more than moist, wet.

I'll let you know how it turns out for him.

But I still think that the veterans are getting more than one flush out of thier casings. And it has got to have something to do with more than patching the craters where you pulled out clusters as recomended in FAQs. If 90 percent of mushrooms are water. and you get a S!@# load of mushrooms out of a casing. Then the casing has lost a tremendous abount of water. To get a new cycle going i imagine you need to put back the same amount of water that just came out. If not more.

EX. The bearded dragon had a small 50/50+ casing that flushed big. He just deep scratced/skimed off a very thin section of the top, added no water. Pins came back in a great number, yet only one mushroom grew large. There were many many more mushrooms, about 20+, that looked as if they would have grown to maturaty but froze. casing must have completly exhausted all water resources. You can just see that. damn thing was pale and light brown.

If you can get 3, sometimes more flushes from a cake, by re-hydrating, dunking the cakes, then the same must be done with casings.

I was just woundering how you guys who know about this do it.
And i read the FAQ about casings. Unless i missed something i didnt see anything about how to re-hydrate the casing. All i remember reading was 'patch the craters formed from harvesting' and that was it.
If there is a FAQ where i can read up on this great. Just link me and ill check that out.

But personal response would straight own and be much apreciated. Im sure there are many newbies that are going to have and do have this same question.

Thanks so much everyone.


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Re: Re-Hydrate Casing [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #889248 - 09/17/02 07:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

wow.
This forum is border line usless for me.
=(
Thanks for nothing everyone.


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[Re: bladerunnerss]
    #889346 - 09/17/02 08:04 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)



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