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    #8832908 - 08/26/08 11:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Is fucken nuts. I was down at the first protest yesterday. Talk about a hive of fucken cops. They barricaded the protestors in and wouldnt let them out. I have never seen so many riot patrols in my life. Also I suppose as the week goes on the protests are going to become more violent. Last night some guy just got whacked in the face by a baton for no reason.

All I have to say is Denver is a war zone right now..


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Re: The DNC. [Re: Dephect]
    #8832925 - 08/26/08 11:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

What is the reason the protesters are protesting?

"Fuck Fox News" is not the only reason, is it?


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Re: The DNC. [Re: Dephect]
    #8832959 - 08/26/08 11:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

What were you protesting?  You dont like conventions, or you dont like democrats?


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Re: The DNC. [Re: DieCommie]
    #8833228 - 08/27/08 12:14 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The idiots are trying to upstage the Chicago convention. For what reason, I have no idea.

More than likely just people that were paid for by the GOP to cause a ruckus.


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Re: The DNC. [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8833261 - 08/27/08 12:21 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I'm a Democratic myself, but this Convention is just off the f*cking hook in so many ways. :rolleyes:


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Re: The DNC. [Re: POLAR0ID]
    #8833272 - 08/27/08 12:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I was referring to the protesters.

I'm not a Democrat or Republican, I'm just here. :grin:


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Re: The DNC. [Re: POLAR0ID]
    #8833280 - 08/27/08 12:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Okay so I am going to the weed march on thursday, Last night I guess it was anti-capitalism, people were chanting anarchy. There were people wearing R68 buttons and they stand for recreate 68'. There were cops surrounding people and then more people surrounding the cops, then more cops surrounded those people.

Ill bring the video camera next time haha :thumbup:

Edit: R68 is like a organization and their leaders were there yesterday with goggles and bandannas over their face and handed them out to the rest of the people who were barricaded.


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Re: The DNC. [Re: Dephect]
    #8833298 - 08/27/08 12:29 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Wait, anarchy is anti-capitalism?  wtf :confused: 

And why would you want to recreate '68?  What was so great about that year/convention that you want to recreate?  What exactly do you want to happen?


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Re: The DNC. [Re: DieCommie]
    #8833345 - 08/27/08 12:39 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It kind of turned into a "LET THOSE PEOPLE GO! FUCK YOU PIG! LET THEM GO!" kind of thing haha. Right now everywhere in the main part of Denver there are at least 15 S.W.A.T and or riot patrol officers. I was just marching. Just protesting to protest. In 68 there was a assassination. I guess they want to recreate that or something. They will have it on a documentry because the R68 people where talking to these camera men wearing DOCUMENTRY STAFF t-shirts. I swear though, I swear I saw that fat fuck who filmed Farenheit 911.


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Re: The DNC. [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8833354 - 08/27/08 12:41 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I was referring to the protesters.

I'm not a Democrat or Republican, I'm just here. :grin:




Actually a good place to be. Where I was for a while. I wasn't a member of any third parties either though. Independent. Not "American Independent" as it so sayeth on the CA voter reg cards. (Which is retarded. People confuse "American Independent" with "Decline to State" independent so often. :rolleyes:)


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Re: The DNC. [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #8833378 - 08/27/08 12:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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The idiots are trying to upstage the Chicago convention. For what reason, I have no idea.

More than likely just people that were paid for by the GOP to cause a ruckus.




Okay so get this. Yesterday the cops were talking to this girl. Later this girl comes up and starts talking shit to the angry mob of protestors. "YOU GUYS ARE MORONS, THESE COPS ARE HERE TO PROTECT YOU AND SERVE YOU AND THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT THEM!?" We all think they were trying to get the group to riot.

There is one benefit of the DNC though. The police have been told not to make any arrests or even bother with people who are smoking weed :thumbup:


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Re: The DNC. [Re: Dephect]
    #8833396 - 08/27/08 12:52 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

damn it! I work downtown during the day and I bring my digital camera (w video capability) out with me at lunch and at around 4 pm and I havent seen shit re: protesting or police brutality!

Just a bunch of idiots nearly getting themselves run over by mall shuttles on 16th st.

I guess I should stick around after 5 pm to catch that "dont taze me bro" moment I have been lusting to witness w/ mine own eyes.


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Re: The DNC. [Re: Dephect]
    #8833638 - 08/27/08 01:58 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Ha, you admit you dont really know what you were protesting, thats great man.  Better than lying and bullshitting.  I tried looking up what it was about, and found an interview with one of the organizers.  I read it, and simply could not find what they are protesting.  He threw out things like the war, and immigrant rights then combined with what you say, anti-capitalism and anti-drug war... guess there really was no focus at all.

Seems like were only there to provoke cops.  Well, maybe you get some thing out of it; by posting YouTube police brutality videos.


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Re: The DNC. [Re: Dephect]
    #8833650 - 08/27/08 02:00 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

These protests are so wildly out of touch with reality that it hurts my brain to think about them.  If there was ever a case of protesters antagonizing the police for no other reason than to antagonize the police then please inform me.  WooHoo!  "Anarchy!!  I don't know what it means, but I like it!"

OP, you don't even know what you're protesting... 

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Last night I guess it was anti-capitalism, people were chanting anarchy


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In 68 there was a assassination. I guess they want to recreate that or something.


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R68 is like a organization and their leaders were there yesterday with goggles and bandannas over their face and handed them out to the rest of the people who were barricaded.



Capitalism has given you everything you have.  RFK's murder was almost totally unrelated to the DNConvention in 1968.  The reason there were protests in Chicago was because at the time it was the Democratic party prosecuting the Vietnam war.  RFK's assassination surly lit a candle under the protesters due to his anti-war stance, but they didn't like have the protests n stuff cuz teh guy got killed. 

When the violence does escalate will you blame the police, or the protesters who conveniently already have goggles and bandannas for the people caught in the fray?


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Re: The DNC. [Re: DieCommie]
    #8833675 - 08/27/08 02:05 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

No I do know what it was though. It was supposed to be kind of a peaceful aggressive march. They where just walking around like 15th and court and everyone just split and went in opposite directions when the cops showed up all the sudden in mass fucken numbers. I didnt have my camera! ARGH! However I got the cutie to take a picture of me with the line of cops. Ill get it on here soon :smile:

Oh and of course I wouldnt try and lie about me knowing what they are protesting about. I asked around a bit and got all I needed to know and got to yell at some cops without getting arrested. I cant wait for the riot.





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    #8833714 - 08/27/08 02:13 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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No I do know what it was though.


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Oh and of course I wouldnt try and lie about me knowing what they are protesting about.



Ooohhhhhhhhhhhhh..  what?


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Re: The DNC. [Re: DieCommie]
    #8834205 - 08/27/08 05:21 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Seems like were only there to provoke cops.  Well, maybe you get some thing out of it; by posting YouTube police brutality videos.




Indeed it merely sounds like a bunch of kids just trying to stir shit up for no reason :shrug:


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Re: The DNC. [Re: DieCommie]
    #8834214 - 08/27/08 05:27 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Um, you guys, Dephect never said he was protesting, just that he was there. If I was nearby I'd go check it out too, wouldn't you?


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Re: The DNC. [Re: zouden]
    #8834220 - 08/27/08 05:29 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ya but hes a revolutionary kinda guy hes gotta b there 4 sumthin


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Re: The DNC. [Re: zouden]
    #8834224 - 08/27/08 05:31 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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It kind of turned into a "LET THOSE PEOPLE GO! FUCK YOU PIG! LET THEM GO!" kind of thing haha. Right now everywhere in the main part of Denver there are at least 15 S.W.A.T and or riot patrol officers. I was just marching. Just protesting to protest. 




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Re: The DNC. [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #8834231 - 08/27/08 05:35 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, epic fail


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Re: The DNC. [Re: zouden]
    #8834407 - 08/27/08 07:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

There are multiple things (getting) fucked up in your country, why just protest for one thing? Why not one big protest for all.


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Re: The DNC. [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #8836287 - 08/27/08 04:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well okay so my dealer friend was one of the people in the barricade and I was texting them the whole time. I needed a fat sack of chronic and the cops were in the way of that.

Would you then protest haha.

I dont care what people have to say about "What cause, blah blah blah."

If you could say "FUCK YOU PIG!" to a cops face and not be arrested for it. Would you do it? For all those times they give a ticket for not stopping when you clearly stopped for 3 seconds because you saw that mother fucker right there on the street corner. Or they give you a speeding ticket when your going 60 in a 55 and everyone else is doing 65. For anything they have ever done. It was the group protesting that the cops stopped. It was us who were trying to get the cops to stop.

Its just one of those things where you just have to be there.

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Re: The DNC. [Re: Dephect]
    #8836577 - 08/27/08 05:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't be surprised if the protests are disorganized, the FBI went around and arrested key protest organizers the day before.

Additionally activist news source news.infoshop.org has been down since the protests began, it's beginning to make me suspicious because it only happens whenever there is a large protest in the US where anarchists and anti-capitalists are present. I think this is probibly one of the main reasons people are disorganized at the DNC, another main reason is most of the planning of groups has probibly gone into the RNC.

I don't really know what the recreate68 convergence is all about (I'm assuming the 68 riots though). Frankly I'm not a believer in an anarchist model of governing, but am an anarchist in that I share similar concerns and values as other anarchists (or believe in anarchism as a force not a model).

Now as for these folks, you can bet they are not democrats at all. They are likely mostly young people disenfranchised by an electoral system that represents nothing near their views and nothing near a reasonable compromise of their views in their opinion. All I've seen from the protest was that fox news piece (not of journalism but shit rather), nothing else even on TDS or TCR (though I missed some of TDS). I think the media likes to whitewash the public opposition to the main parties particularly and this is the reason why no coverage and/or no positive coverage of protesters generally happens at these events. Though perhaps they come off as non-intellectuals I'd like to state that people in attendance of this protest are not as dense as supporters at the DNC. After all, if you wanted to know what the democrats want to say about their political positions would you ask a democratic official or just some random democratic supporter.


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Re: The DNC. [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8836701 - 08/27/08 05:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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the FBI went around and arrested key protest organizers the day before.



Link please.


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    #8836768 - 08/27/08 06:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

oops. some of the protest leaders were still there.

oh and this was my monday night
http://cbs4denver.com/denver2008/arrests.clash.protest.2.803080.html


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    #8836800 - 08/27/08 06:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

actually here is a better depiction of my night..

&feature=related

this one makes the cops look really good

&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=denver%20dnc%20convention&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv



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    #8837051 - 08/27/08 06:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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the FBI went around and arrested key protest organizers the day before.



Link please.




http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=20080825144923565
http://colorado.indymedia.org/node/954
http://adriennecareyhurley.blogspot.com/2008/08/pre-emptive-arrests-at-dnc.html
http://cascadia.olympiaworkers.net/fbi-arrests-olympia-resident-suspected-elf-activity

All of those except the last one are references to the same arrest of 5 people by the FBI for puzzling reasons. The last one is a lone ELF activist and the FBI may have evidence against him.


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    #8837525 - 08/27/08 08:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ReCreate68

This is the offical recreate 68 website's what's with the name explanation.

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Let us be clear: the name is not “Recreate Chicago 68” or “Recreate the DNC 68.” The idea that “Recreate 68” refers specifically to the events of late August 1968 in Chicago has been put out by those who wish to discredit an organization planning peaceful, nonviolent protests by associating it with what they would have us believe was a violent protest 40 years ago. Let us also be clear that those conducting this smear campaign are distorting history: what happened in Chicago in 1968 was not a violent protest,  but rather a “police riot,” the term used by the Walker Commission, a  body appointed by the Nixon administration to investigate the events surrounding the Chicago convention.




The website gives the impression that R68 is a police brutality management group. Thus why R68 people were handing out goggles and bananas to people who were likely to be targeted by pepper spray and teargas.


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Re: The DNC. [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8837788 - 08/27/08 09:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: The DNC. [Re: Dephect]
    #8844995 - 08/29/08 12:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah recreate68 was an epic fail. GoBoma.

Im a total anarchist i like to believe. But these groups lately are not kool. the protesters these days are paranoid rednecks and dim wit communists that like to believe they are hippies. The real protesters that i digg who are really original and really make a difference are the Anonymous chanology 4chan kids that protest the churches monthly.


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