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Realization
    #8812952 - 08/22/08 08:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Once we realize that all beings are just different methods of expressing the same fundamentality;

It doesn't matter what religion someone believes in...
            or what species they are.

We are all one
                      --just various expressions of this fundamental truth of existence.

Where does the earth end,
and where do you begin?


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8813001 - 08/22/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Once we realize that all beings are just different methods of expressing the same fundamentality;





And what might that be?


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Re: Realization [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8813022 - 08/22/08 08:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

It's hard to describe, but this fundamentality... it is like a "suchness" of life. Like a flowing river. It is like a 'chi' that animates all beings. I first truly experienced it first hand when I was on mushrooms. But now I can feel it every now and then in my daily life. It is just a force... almost a living energy that is there in all life forms... does that make sense?


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8813027 - 08/22/08 08:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Glass shatters as metal pierces pieces bonded together
with love and attraction,

once the one was all but now the many become one.

Where does the earth end?

Where bare feet no longer excite the dirt.

Where do I begin?

With the oceans faultless mother dancing asunder.


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This very moment is a shining expansion of the breathing universe,

This exploding sensation of complete tranquility,

The one, the all, the sweet bliss of tasting God.

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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8813063 - 08/22/08 08:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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It's hard to describe, but this fundamentality... it is like a "suchness" of life. Like a flowing river. It is like a 'chi' that animates all beings. I first truly experienced it first hand when I was on mushrooms. But now I can feel it every now and then in my daily life. It is just a force... almost a living energy that is there in all life forms... does that make sense?




.....:confused:

I thought you meant "fundamental" as it is used in physics.


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Re: Realization [Re: LoveShroomDearly]
    #8813147 - 08/22/08 09:13 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Glass shatters as metal pierces pieces bonded together
with love and attraction,

once the one was all but now the many become one.






Beautifully put... if I am to understand it correctly--

Are you alluding to the fact that where one once understood him(or her)self as a singular person... One amidst a crowd. Separate from the rest; Now realizes that, in essense, everything is everything?


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Re: Realization [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8813148 - 08/22/08 09:14 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

How is it used in physics?


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8813208 - 08/22/08 09:25 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

when did religion matter, anyways?  to the non-religious, of course


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8813283 - 08/22/08 09:41 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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How is it used in physics?




Its the lowest possible frequency in any vibrational system.


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Re: Realization [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8814023 - 08/23/08 12:50 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

that may very well be what I am referring to.


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Re: Realization [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8814251 - 08/23/08 02:22 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I thought the answer might have been C#, but...


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8814416 - 08/23/08 05:56 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The earth begins & ends, I do not :rose:


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8814552 - 08/23/08 07:21 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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smmu said:
Once we realize that all beings are just different methods of expressing the same fundamentality;

It doesn't matter what religion someone believes in...
            or what species they are.

We are all one
                      --just various expressions of this fundamental truth of existence.

Where does the earth end,
and where do you begin?




religions are fundamentally exclusive systems. Don't go there.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Realization [Re: Icelander]
    #8814971 - 08/23/08 09:56 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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smmu said:
Once we realize that all beings are just different methods of expressing the same fundamentality;

It doesn't matter what religion someone believes in...
            or what species they are.

We are all one
                      --just various expressions of this fundamental truth of existence.

Where does the earth end,
and where do you begin?




religions are fundamentally exclusive systems. Don't go there.




What do you mean, icelander? All I was referring to was that religions, beliefs, even actions, clothes, lifestyles, etc.... None of that matters! We are all different expressions of the same existence. We are all part of the same Oneness. Once I accepted this, I was much more apt to accept everyone around me, no matter who they were, what they did, or what they believed in. And I am at peace now.


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8815075 - 08/23/08 10:29 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

How can you be so willing to accept everybody as they are? Everybody is not equal and therefore, some are subjectively worse or better than others.

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Re: Realization [Re: Boots]
    #8815346 - 08/23/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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How can you be so willing to accept everybody as they are? Everybody is not equal and therefore, some are subjectively worse or better than others.




Wow... this goes against the grain of everything I believe to be truth.

Everybody IS equal, can't you see?

Every human, intrinsically, is equal!
The only thing that makes us unequal is the situations we are born into and the way society views us.

Even the trees outside, the mosquito and the fruitfly... they are equal to a human. There is no differentiation. A dolphin can understand humans speech, but humans can't come close to understanding dolphin speech... Who is REALLY more intelligent?

The truth is that it doesn't matter because the human and the dolphin, the mosquito and the fruitfly, they are all one and the same--they are all equal to one another. Once this truth is embraced, the world will be at peace.


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8815763 - 08/23/08 01:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

We humans sometimes forget how deeply our species is woven into the fabric of life and how reliant we are on the system which has evolved before and around us.
Our crops, as well as countless wild fruits and vegetables, rely on honey bees for pollination. Spiders clear our houses and yards of nastier pests like mosquitoes and fruit flies, which also act as food supply to bats, birds, and other smaller animals. Invertebrates alone are estimated to number over eleven million species: that is a huge part of the food chain, without which our ecosystem would be in tatters.
If mutual reliance doesn't make us equal, I don't know what would. :thumbup:

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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8815949 - 08/23/08 02:20 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

And I am at peace now.

I can fix that for you.


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Re: Realization [Re: Cameron]
    #8816749 - 08/23/08 04:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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We humans sometimes forget how deeply our species is woven into the fabric of life and how reliant we are on the system which has evolved before and around us.
Our crops, as well as countless wild fruits and vegetables, rely on honey bees for pollination. Spiders clear our houses and yards of nastier pests like mosquitoes and fruit flies, which also act as food supply to bats, birds, and other smaller animals. Invertebrates alone are estimated to number over eleven million species: that is a huge part of the food chain, without which our ecosystem would be in tatters.
If mutual reliance doesn't make us equal, I don't know what would. :thumbup:




Cameron.. you bring up a good point.

This is something I have struggled with-- Everything DOES truly seem to have a place in its own ecosystem. But where do humans fit in? We take over land, we use up all Earth's natural resources, we take and take and take... Reproducing to no end... We go against the grain of other species, in that we create rescue helicoptors and dams so that humans can live where humans are not supposed to live on this Earth. Then when natural disasturs happen-- when nature shows us that Mother Earth will always reign supreme-- we blame a politician, or God, or ourselves...


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Re: Realization [Re: Patisotagami]
    #8816837 - 08/23/08 04:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

When the Earth can no longer support us, it won't. :shrug:
Life will continue, regardless of our stupidity.

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