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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: pong]
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homo sapiens sapiens evolved in the great rift valley, then obviously continued to evolve as they migrated to different environments.  This is basically the out of africa theory as apposed to the other one who's name I cannot recall.


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: pong]
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pong said:
HUMANS EVOLVED IN MANY PLACES

which is why we are not all brown



Case closed!


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: zouden]
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zouden said:
pong said:
HUMANS EVOLVED IN MANY PLACES

which is why we are not all brown



Case closed!



from what did they evolve and when?

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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: DragonChaser]
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DragonChaser said:
Genetic evidence shows native Americans descended from Asians.






from where did the Anakin, the Tsawhawbitts, the Tso'apittse and
the Adena who have no DNA match to the indians or asians

what of the remains of humanoids found in north america dating
to around 40,000 years ago and some along the PNW that have DNA
relating them to Australian Aboriginals that may be as old as
90,000 years old?

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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Wang S, Lewis CM Jr, Jakobsson M, Ramachandran S, Ray N, et al. (2007) Genetic Variation and Population Structure in Native Americans. PLoS Genetics 3(11): e185.
Quote:
Author Summary

Studies of genetic variation have the potential to provide information about the initial peopling of the Americas and the more recent history of Native American populations. To investigate genetic diversity and population relationships in the Americas, we analyzed genetic variation at 678 genome-wide markers genotyped in 29 Native American populations. Comparing Native Americans to Siberian populations, both genetic diversity and similarity to Siberians decrease with geographic distance from the Bering Strait. The widespread distribution of a particular allele private to the Americas supports a view that much of Native American genetic ancestry may derive from a single wave of migration. The pattern of genetic diversity across populations suggests that coastal routes might have been important during ancient migrations of Native American populations. These and other observations from our study will be useful alongside archaeological, geological, and linguistic data for piecing together a more detailed description of the settlement history of the Americas.



This is a landmark article in paleoanthropology, and the case for a Bering Strait migration is stronger than ever.


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: nonwo]
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nonwo said:
now if u could stop with the games and debate the subject that would rock



Most of what you've written looks like games.  Zion?  Maybe the Creator put them there?

You're the one making bizarre statements that are strongly at odds with all evidence I'm aware of (including genetic evidence as dragonchaser pointed out).  If you want honest debate, I suggest you formulate an argument.

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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: zouden]
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zouden said:
This is a landmark article in paleoanthropology, and the case for a Bering Strait migration is stronger than ever.



of course, but then with this you can ignore other evidence

there's ledgends of giants with many nations of native people that, giants that were here long before them
http://www.cavelore.com/giantus.htm




At the summit of Big Hill in the Cumberland Mountains in Jackson County, Kentucky, is a layer of carboniferous sandstone. In the 1880's it was crossed by a wagon trail that in time broke up the surface of the rock. When the resulting debris was cleared away, a series of tracks was discovered in this carboniferous layer about 300 million years old. There were imprints of a bear, something resembling a large horse, and two "tracks of a human being, good sized, toes well spread, and very distinctly marked." The prints were examined by Professor J.F.Brown of Berea College, Kentucky.

The American Antiquarian, 7:39, January 1885


A pair of human footprints once graced a slab of limestone on the west back of the Mississippi River at St. Louis. In 1816 or 1817 the slab was quarried from its position and removed by a Mr. George Rappe to the village of Harmony (now New Harmony), Indiana. The prints were 10 1/2 inches long and 4 inches wide at the toes, 6 1/4 inches apart at the heels, and 13 1/2 inches spanning between the toes, reported Henry R. Schoolcraft, "the toes being very much spread, and the foot flattened in a manner that happens to those who have been habituated to go a great length of time without shoes. Notwithstanding this circumstance, the prints are strikingly natural, exhibiting every muscular impression, and the swell of the heels and the toes, with a precision and faithfulness to nature, which I have not been able to copy, with perfect exactness, in the present drawing....
       
                      Every appearance will warrant the conclusion that these impressions were made at a time when the rock was soft enough to receive them by pressure, and that the marks and features of the feet are natural and genuine." In the geologic scheme of things, this limestone hardened about 270 million years ago. Both the rock and the prints in it were said to show the same evidence of wear and aging.

The American Journal of Science and Arts, 1:5:223-312, 1822


A pair of human footprints once graced a slab of limestone on the west back of the Mississippi River at St. Louis. In 1816 or 1817 the slab was quarried from its position and removed by a Mr. George Rappe to the village of Harmony (now New Harmony), Indiana. The prints were 10 1/2 inches long and 4 inches wide at the toes, 6 1/4 inches apart at the heels, and 13 1/2 inches spanning between the toes, reported Henry R. Schoolcraft, "the toes being very much spread, and the foot flattened in a manner that happens to those who have been habituated to go a great length of time without shoes. Notwithstanding this circumstance, the prints are strikingly natural, exhibiting every muscular impression, and the swell of the heels and the toes, with a precision and faithfulness to nature, which I have not been able to copy, with perfect exactness, in the present drawing....
       
                      Every appearance will warrant the conclusion that these impressions were made at a time when the rock was soft enough to receive them by pressure, and that the marks and features of the feet are natural and genuine." In the geologic scheme of things, this limestone hardened about 270 million years ago. Both the rock and the prints in it were said to show the same evidence of wear and aging.

The American Journal of Science and Arts, 1:5:223-312, 1822


Giant tracks, seemingly made by a human being, were found by a government trapper in the Alkali Flats area of Great White Sands, New Mexico, in 1931. A year later a party of four, including O. Fred Arthur, supervisor of Lincoln National Forest, set out to investigate the tracks, with the government trapper Ellis Wright as their guide. They found 13 imprints crossing a relic desert basin in the eastern most foothills of the San Andreas Mountains. Despite the great size of the tracks, the investigators were convinced they were human, "for the prints were perfect and even the insteps were plainly marked." Oval shaped, the prints are 16 to 22 inches long and 8 to 12 inches wide, with a distance between strides of about 5 feet and a separation in width of 2 feet.

                      The site was revisited in 1972, 1974, and 1981, and more tracks were found. When they were first studied, it had been noted that the imprints were 2 1/2 inches deep. But in 1974 (42 years later) they were between 1 and 1 1/2 inches above the ground! The compacting of the soft earth by the heavy tread of the creature had preserved the prints while the surrounding soil had been eroded by wind and the occasional rainfall. By 1981 the tracks stood well above the surface by several inches. There is no doubt that the tracks were made by living creatures. One suggestion is that they were made in the 1850's by US Army camels, a more accepted view is that they are 10,000 years old, and were made by an extinct animal such as a Mammoth or native camel. But the spacing of the footprints suggests a two legged creature. The mysterious tracks are now protected by archaeologists.

U.S. Army Report, 1981

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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: nonwo]
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actually, there are multiple land bridge theories, as well as one for peoples rafting against the ice sheets from europe to north america


you need some anthropology courses, bub


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: demiu5]
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There's also the idea that Polynesians are decended from the Taiwanese (strong genetic link supporting this) and they in fact also made it to South America, yet they did not colonise it for some reason. Probably because they landed in the inhospitable southern tip. I think this is actually described in the paper I linked. It's still compatible with the land-bridge theory.


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: demiu5]
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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: pong]
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thanks pong
the crusades was about the same time as the aztec thing
most ndn people didnt do that


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: zouden]
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there is an island on the west coast of south america (don't remember which country) that has yielded artifacts dating to pre-clovis that were more advanced technologically than even the 'clovis' groups


i wish i remembered more from my anth courses, but i'm glad i'm done with it


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: demiu5]
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im gonna look into that thanks


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: demiu5]
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demius said:
there is an island on the west coast of south america (don't remember which country) that has yielded artifacts dating to pre-clovis that were more advanced technologically than even the 'clovis' groups



they're still digging the clovis site and have found more clovis artifacts in addition to artifacts more than a meter below belonging to another group

currently Topper is the oldest dated site

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/11/17/carolina.dig/index.html

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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Since the 1930s, archaeologists generally believed North America was settled by hunters following large game over the land bridge about 13,000 years ago.

"That had been repeated so many times in textbooks and lectures it became part of the common lore," said Dennis Stanford, curator of archeology at the Smithsonian Institution. "People forgot it was only an unproven hypothesis."


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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ahhhhhh, names are coming back slowly

Topper, Cactus Hill


well, okay, just one other name for now


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: nonwo]
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Yes, that's why the anthropological community is now leaning towards a much earlier land-bridge crossing followed by a coastal colonisation.


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: Entropymancer]
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Entropymancer said:
nonwo said:
now if u could stop with the games and debate the subject that would rock



Most of what you've written looks like games.  Zion?  Maybe the Creator put them there?

You're the one making bizarre statements that are strongly at odds with all evidence I'm aware of (including genetic evidence as dragonchaser pointed out).  If you want honest debate, I suggest you formulate an argument.



with all evidence I'm aware of well now ur aware of differant evidence


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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: zouden]
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zouden said:
Yes, that's why the anthropological community is now leaning towards a much earlier land-bridge crossing followed by a coastal colonisation.




link?

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Re: land bridge theory bs [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I posted it at the top of this page


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