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NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming
    #8814413 - 08/23/08 07:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

/begin controversial thread.
These are not my words nor my videos, it was just passed on to me, and I thought some people here might be interested.
Please note: This is not a 9/11 thread.
This is a thread dedicated to examining the subtle mind control techniques commonly employed by the media and other outlets used to shape and manipulate the minds, thoughts and behavior of people.

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From: DJ Keebler

Most people who watch TV, especially the news,
believe that the shows they are viewing are nothing but benign forms of entertainment.

NOTHING IS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH! ALL TV is a form of mind-control.

Most people are not aware that there are subtle,
unconscious forms of manipulation taking place
meant to coerce and maninpulate your opinions or beliefs.

These videos explain how TV newcasters use NLP against you
and why you should NOT get your news from mainstream media.
There is one tool which every person can possess that will prevent you
from being controlled and manipulated........KNOWLEDGE!!!
Take away their power and learn the truth.

(Note: NLP is also reported to be mandatory education
for children who are brought up in the Illuminati ranks.
In addition to use of weapons and martial arts by the age of 5,
mind control and manipulation are in the curriculum.)

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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8814446 - 08/23/08 08:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The first video was just stating the blatantly obvious, so I didn't watch the other two.  The commentator thinks that he's revealing something that everybody else is missing and explains everything so slowly, it's pretty insulting to the watcher.

I guess a total idiot might find this video enlightening but then again total idiots don't watch these kind of things so imho, pointless.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: sam420]
    #8814448 - 08/23/08 08:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

also,

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Most people are not aware that there are subtle,
unconscious forms of manipulation taking place
meant to coerce and maninpulate your opinions or beliefs.





What planet are you living on? EVERYBODY realises this.  At least everybody on the Shroomery!


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8814450 - 08/23/08 08:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Colbert goes on a 24 minute spiel for the President. A true professional at his craft.



Steven Jacobson's take on NLP aka Mind Control


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: sam420]
    #8814469 - 08/23/08 08:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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sam420 said:
The first video was just stating the blatantly obvious, so I didn't watch the other two.  The commentator thinks that he's revealing something that everybody else is missing and explains everything so slowly, it's pretty insulting to the watcher.

I guess a total idiot might find this video enlightening but then again total idiots don't watch these kind of things so imho, pointless.




Well that's great you didn't watch the whole thing and jumped to the conclusion you couldn't possibly learn anything from the other two, but I think the other 2 fill the gaps pretty well. If you felt your intelligence was "insulted" from a video directed to the general populace who is pretty clueless on average, I don't know what to say. Not to mention he points it out SEVERAL times that most of this stuff is blatantly obvious but he's pointing it out anyway. Most people aren't well versed on the many techniques used to program peoples subconscious, so the guy feels to need to go into great detail. If you're an expert on it, great.. but don't see why that makes you feel the need to try and discredit it. Which is actually pretty interesting because he goes into detail about that technique in the 2nd video....


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8814486 - 08/23/08 08:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not trying to be smart and I'm not trying to discredit anything, I just thought it was stupid.  I didn't 'jump' to any conclusions about the other two videos, I came to a reasonable conclusion based on the first...  And if it's a video for the 'dumb general populace' then it's out of place on this forum.

Just my opinion though.  Somebody here might find this utterly mind-blowing :shrug:

I guess you could say that by claiming I tried to 'discredit' the video, that you are manipulating MY words, since I so clearly said that he was stating the obvious.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: sam420]
    #8814553 - 08/23/08 09:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well I apologize if I came off that way. I'm not trying to manipulate your words. But I just based that off a reasonable conclusions based off your choice of wording.

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The first video was just stating the blatantly obvious, so I didn't watch the other two.  The commentator thinks that he's revealing something that everybody else is missing and explains everything so slowly, it's pretty insulting to the watcher.

I guess a total idiot might find this video enlightening but then again total idiots don't watch these kind of things so imho, pointless.




Just found that interesting as he points out in the other videos some of the techniques they use to try and insult or debase something by projecting the image of something being worthless or not worth paying any attention to, in order to try and detract the people who are watching from listening to the actual discussion or having an actual discussion take place.. and have it turn into an argument instead or just plain name-calling. These are techniques used by the media and various other outlets all the time and people pick up on them, it becomes a sort of second nature.
Anyway, I don't intend to mince words and I don't mean any disrespect, I just wanted to start a discourse on the various methods of neuro-linguistic programming that the media uses to hypnotize and program people with.


Here's the same guy doing a bit on sexual subliminal programming in a harry potter ad


subliminal mcdonalds message... one of the oldest subliminal message techniques till in use today


subliminal messages all over spongebob squarepants


some of disney's manipulation of the young mind


the programming goes much further than that used by "news" reporters and hidden messages and words and phrases with double meanings.. all sorts of symbolism is used religiously.



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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8814593 - 08/23/08 09:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a pretty serious question chris....what the hell are you doing up at 7:45am on a saturday making legitimately thought-provoking and culturally significant threads?
pretty sure the free world doesn't start fighting the good fight till noon or so on weekends.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: HeadTripVertigo]
    #8814794 - 08/23/08 10:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd be curious if there is any evidence that these techniques actually work?

I mean, have they ever surveyed individuals under semi controlled conditions to see if something as simple as "gesturing left" makes you think an individual "is lying to the far left".

Or, does encoding a microsecond image of "McDonalds" in a video really make someone crave McDonalds?  I would think some of this were tested empirically.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: badchad]
    #8814870 - 08/23/08 11:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would venture to say yes, there has been a TON of study in this department. The US government has been doing HEAVY research in this field for over 50 years now. Not so openly...
But it's a HUGE industry.
There are a trillion websites devoted to this sort of thing.... most are focused around self-empowerment and self-hypnosis and improving your quality of life and that sort of thing... but if you do some digging you can see it goes a lot deeper.. and is heavily entrenched in the media in particular, using some very subversive and subliminal techniques, and the short answer is yes they do work, nd surprisingly well... that is why they are basically a standard in media entertainment. I don't really care to do that much digging right now but if I pull something up later I'll be sure to post it here.
But to start you could do a google search for NLP and try one of the 19 million results..

AND you could start with this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLP_and_science
Which basically says that NLP doesn't really lend itself to empirical scientific studies very well.. especially considering that our understanding of the human psyche is still basically in its infancy.
But believe you me that it works quite effectively or else they wouldn't be using it.
Or check these links for further elucidation:
http://www.bradburyac.mistral.co.uk/nlpfax22.htm
http://medicalnlp.com/home.html
http://www.holographicuniversity.com/nlpguide.php
http://www.nlp.de/research/

Suffice it to say that there is no shortage of information on this topic, it is indeed a science although probably a misunderstood one considering our incomplete understanding of the human brain at this juncture. But while mainstream science may not fully grasp what it is all about, those who are in 'control' of our society know it quite well, and they study it thoroughly and use it daily in every aspect of their interaction with the "masses", but it is most abundantly clear in the mainstream media and advertising. Marketing people and advertisers have always been known to use very clever manipulation of symbols and words and slip in hidden meanings and messages into their advertisements to entice or lure people into their product.... that is only the tip of the iceberg that is this industry. It's not called Television Programming for nothing. It is literally programming your mind.

And to answer your question andrew? (sorry I'm terrible with names).. I'm up at 7:45am making thought-provoking threads because obviously I've been pulling an all-nighter with my alien buddies from alpha centauri plotting our overthrow of the new world order. Don't worry though, I got my tin foil beenie on.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8816103 - 08/23/08 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:tinfoil:

its alex, btw.  as you might have seen I've been recovering from a horrible blowjob last night so i've been pretty sleepless and out of sorts all day and havent had a chance to go through this whole thread to reply with something worthwhile.  it looks interesting so i'll go back when i feel a bit better annd have more than a few hours sleep.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: HeadTripVertigo]
    #8816229 - 08/23/08 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wait, are you saying Colbert is practicing your "NLP"?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

I hope you realize Colbert is satire.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8816275 - 08/23/08 05:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I recently made a thread about NLP in P&S.  It's pretty thorough.  I've been getting into it pretty heavily.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8816311 - 08/23/08 05:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I thought this was going to be a thread about neural nets.

Ya, I've been bitching about this phenomenon since I was 5, so I don't know how stupid you have to be not to realize it, although I admit that there are sadly plenty of people who don't.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Ferris]
    #8818690 - 08/24/08 04:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I mean it's just kind of disturbing sometimes how many people are blissfully unaware or don't have any clue how blatantly (and not so blatantly..) they are trying to brainwash and program all of society. Yes, Colbert is satire and while I respect what he does, he is using those exact same tools just in a different way for a different purpose, same with a lot of "satire" just in different ways.. Simpsons, and other similar shows has had a pretty major social programming effect in my opinion. Media is media and while they may sing different songs or vibrate at different frequencies, they all come from the same "source" and that's the worship of that entertainment beast which has us collectively hypnotized. So we can sit back and label ok this is "good" beneficial NLP and this is bad detrimental kind, till we are blue.. but the emergence will come when we drop boundaries and just go ok we are humans, how can we best serve each other and the planet? Hint, it's not by being materialistic and greedy for power.

When we stop trying to spend all this time controlling others, we will learn to master ourselves and that is when we take control of our realities and the infinite possibilities of reality begin to unfold. So this is of course a necessary step in our evolution as a civilization. Good or bad NLP means coming closer to the knowledge of the unexplainable in regards to human consciousness and understanding the nature of the psyche and it's amazing ability to create realities based on perception. The better we understand the mind and reason why, the better we can live in it. Or something to that effect.. I dunno.. I'm on sleep deprivation. Look at the world around you. See things for what they really are. We are much more powerful beings than they would have us to understand, they willfully repress us for a reason - a global awakening of human consciousness means an end to their charade and reign of power, but it's as inevitable as the sunrise, only a matter of time really. That's enough of ranting for now, I suppose.

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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8818691 - 08/24/08 04:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

thats y i dont own a tv


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Coaster]
    #8818694 - 08/24/08 04:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Right on homeslice.


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Shroomism]
    #8818697 - 08/24/08 04:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i watched the final installment of star wars which was revenge of the sith last night while on acid
i saw the whole trilogy this summer while fried so now i have this super deep connection with the films
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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Coaster]
    #8818714 - 08/24/08 04:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Star Wars had a lot more potential for social commentary.  When the collection of available scenery includes an entire galaxy, I mean, are vague references to trade disputes followed by a simplistic democracy vs fascism argument (complete with flashy action sequences), really the best that we can do?


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Re: NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming [Re: Coaster]
    #8818715 - 08/24/08 04:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

as much as I'm a super nerd for saying it, Star Wars is like the epitome of archetypes and the symbolism is so rich it's insane, those movies have very special meaning to me.. Galactic wars between the "dark" side and the "light" side.. gotta love it. The force is strong in this one.

The force surrounds us and binds us. May for the force be with you, young grasshopper. Use your feelings. Haha I love it.

Yeah we could have done better... and attempts have been made. But I'd say it was pretty revolutionary in general terms. Who knows what kind of madness we will create in the future.


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