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They're small but opening... should I pick them? *Possible Albinos?*
    #8813997 - 08/23/08 02:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

So Here's what I've got going on:  Tiny fruits because of dry casing etc. etc.  (I'm solving that as I bought a ultrasonic and it's now hooked to my chamber).

Strain is supposedly Mexican Cubensis, but as they age they get extremely white.  Possibly Albino Mexicans.

 

Here's what I have, small fruits w/ cracks and dry tops.  But since they're opening, should I Pick the three big ones with open caps and dry them out while waiting for all my new pins?


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: Maverick]
    #8814013 - 08/23/08 02:48 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Those are tiny man, but yes as soon as veil breaks your supposed to pick them. Definitely work on your FC humidity levels man. Also, CO2 may be an issue.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: demonicaeroponic]
    #8814041 - 08/23/08 02:57 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Yep harvest those suckers, and RH does seem to be the culprit but I'm also seeing some CO2 problems.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8814049 - 08/23/08 03:00 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Yep harvest those suckers, and RH does seem to be the culprit but I'm also seeing some CO2 problems.




can you explain how to tell the difference between RH and Co2 problems please?


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: SelfDestruct]
    #8814064 - 08/23/08 03:06 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

RH problems usually will present you with mushrooms that have cracked or dry caps, small mushrooms and plenty of aborts. While CO2 on the other hand will give you long stems and small caps or short stems with large caps and a shit load of aborts. CO2 usually affects the per portions and weight, while RH will affect the complete growth.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8814079 - 08/23/08 03:12 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Well I've solved my humidity problem, but how should I solve my CO2 problem?  I fan quite often, more than a few times a day sometime.


I've noticed also that the thin stemmed mushrooms belong primarily to the ones that grow out of the cracks where the casing has pulled away from the metal pan.  Could this be why it's not getting enough oxygen?  (Since it's in that little crack and CO2 probably just fills it).


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8814088 - 08/23/08 03:14 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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RH problems usually will present you with mushrooms that have cracked or dry caps, small mushrooms and plenty of aborts. While CO2 on the other hand will give you long stems and small caps or short stems with large caps and a shit load of aborts. CO2 usually affects the per portions and weight, while RH will affect the complete growth.




I've recently grown Cambodians, no cracks or anything mentioned on RH side effects.  Some grew kind of big but alot of them just seemed like average and kinda thin stems and not big but not tiny caps.  I thought it was mainly due to genetics and the strain.  Was my logic wrong or do you think that might have been Co2 also?

I used a shotgun FC btw.  76-78 degree temp and 98% humidity.  Most were around 3 inches tall with about 1/4-1/3 inch diameter on stem.  Caps averaging mostly around 3/4 inch big.

I dunno if you can really give me an answer, i'm just curious.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: SelfDestruct]
    #8814103 - 08/23/08 03:19 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Mine are smaller than 3" tall, but the stem is somewhat proportioned to the cap.  They're like 1" tall.








So these mushrooms are pins that turned into mushrooms before I hooked the Ultrasonic up (I got the ultrasonic yesterday afternoon).  I'm hoping I'll see an improvement as my spraying technique sucks, and this mists everything beautifully.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: SelfDestruct]
    #8814113 - 08/23/08 03:22 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Thats about right for cambos on cakes but when you grow shrooms the way they act on cakes compared to bulk can be very different. My Orrisas on cakes got to 5in tall with 1 1/2 caps and pretty meaty while on bulk hpoo with millet spawn they got to over a foot with like 5in caps. That is genetics because they are a poo loving strain so they will grow bigger with more sub and just casing shrooms grow bigger but yours seem just fine.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8814124 - 08/23/08 03:27 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Nice, I forgot to mention My species is Mexican Cubensis.  Though I think it has some of its albino traits showing.  The caps go white as they age.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: Maverick]
    #8814132 - 08/23/08 03:31 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Those look like Mexican Albino to me and if they are Mexicube they are small growin shrooms but there should be a shit load of them.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8814168 - 08/23/08 03:47 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Those look like Mexican Albino to me and if they are Mexicube they are small growin shrooms but there should be a shit load of them.





This is what I'm thinking, I think they sent me the wrong ones, they sent me Mexican Albinos.  But That's okay.  Are there any precautions I should take for growing albinos?  More sensitive to anything or what-not?

I'm quite excited either way, I'd love to see larger fruits w/ more albinism characteristics.  :smile:


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: Maverick]
    #8814208 - 08/23/08 04:01 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

They are sterile alot of the times and are sensitive to light also I just saw your harvest pics and noticed that on a few you ripped of a lot of mycelium, when I harvest I twist till they fall off leaving no mycelia damage or you could use an X-acto knife to cut the "roots".


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8814237 - 08/23/08 04:15 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmm, I have a crapload of this stuff in grain jars...  I was hoping for something that wasn't sterile...

I'll twist them off next time so I don't damage the mycelium, i didn't know how to remove them properly...

You say 'sensitive to light'... Perhaps that's why the fruits are so small.  Should I figure out a way to dim the light?  Maybe put a couple sheets of white paper ontop of the chamber?


Damn I have a 12x9 inch pan full of these little buggers... (still colonizing though). I'm bound to at least get some viable spores for things such as trading and storage right?


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: Maverick]
    #8814258 - 08/23/08 04:28 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I mean they are only sterile if its bad genetics and since this is a multi-spore grow there is really no way to know, and by light sensitive I mean that it only takes a little light to get them to fruit.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8814275 - 08/23/08 04:45 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'm doing 12/12, Would you suggest different?  :smile:


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: Maverick]
    #8818104 - 08/24/08 12:33 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

nope your good, but what watt bulb and type.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8818453 - 08/24/08 02:09 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

It's actually a 12" CCFL from my PC.  (I do watercooling and I have a modded Lian Li V2000B).


Here's a photo:



After 12 hours of running, you can still touch it with your bare hands without any possibility of burning yourself, but it's extremely bright.  CCFLs are much better than CFLs.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: Maverick]
    #8818750 - 08/24/08 04:27 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Nice, hows the RH doing now.


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Re: They're small but opening... should I pick them? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8819162 - 08/24/08 10:06 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

RH is much better, Some of the new pins that formed since I got the ultrasonic 2 days ago have formed into much larger baby mushrooms, their ballheads are as big as the expanded caps of my first 'flush'.  Maybe what I saw was a pre-flush?


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