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What factors determine potency?
    #8812977 - 08/22/08 10:35 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think i have ever ventured off into this part of the shroomery, but i have been wondering about this for a bit now and figured this was the best place to ask....what factors determine potency of mushrooms?...


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: openmind]
    #8812998 - 08/22/08 10:41 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

genetics


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: bait_]
    #8813165 - 08/22/08 11:17 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Substrates also I hear. like hpoo and other recipes.


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: Citratox]
    #8813181 - 08/22/08 11:20 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

nah you can take a non active species and grow it on hpoo and it wont have any increase in potency.  substrates provide nutrients which determine the amount of fruits/flushes you get


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: bait_]
    #8813207 - 08/22/08 11:25 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

ohh alright thanks for clearing that up.


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: Citratox]
    #8813331 - 08/22/08 11:53 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, genetics are pretty much the only thing that determine potency. All the other variables that we try to control are simply a means to increasing biological efficiency - that is, most weight out for substrate weight in.

It should also be noted that multispore inoculations create completely random genetics. This is why two substrates created from the same spore syringe/print can be at completely seperate ends of the potency spectrum, regardless of the substrate they were grown on.


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: soulsizzle]
    #8813336 - 08/22/08 11:54 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

So basically the only way to really control potency is to become a genetic engineer?  I'm on it.


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: libertaire]
    #8813342 - 08/22/08 11:56 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

or just choose a high potency strain lol


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: abitavenger]
    #8813347 - 08/22/08 11:58 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

or just isolate and clone the hell out of one of your shrooms that was pretty potent
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5874305#5874305


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: R10tGuNn3r]
    #8813762 - 08/23/08 01:47 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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or just isolate and clone the hell out of one of your shrooms that was pretty potent
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5874305#5874305 [/quote

this is what I do!:thumbup:


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: MarioTrip]
    #8813868 - 08/23/08 02:11 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

alright....I thought so

I was just confused because i hear people saying..."Oh that was a weak batch"....Or "My next flush is going to be more potent"

So this led me to the question of what are people doing to change potency


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: openmind]
    #8814019 - 08/23/08 02:49 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry to twist the topic a bit, but will the type of substrate have an influence on the effects of a cube? EX: do cubes from brf give you a different type of high than hpoo?


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: ray40cal]
    #8814033 - 08/23/08 02:54 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

A FOAF has never noticed a difference in high between any batch of any hallucinogenic, other than how "strong" it was. A FOAF told me they all "felt" the same, just some lasted longer and were more intense.


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: R10tGuNn3r]
    #8814038 - 08/23/08 02:56 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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or just isolate and clone the hell out of one of your shrooms that was pretty potent
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5874305#5874305




And how are you supposed to clone a mushroom that you already consumed? You would had to have eaten it to know it's potent...


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: torqueman]
    #8814146 - 08/23/08 03:38 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Save a small part of every mushroom you eat.....hah.  Or at least every batch I guess, I would assume every batch has the same general potency.  I could be wrong though.


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: libertaire]
    #8814179 - 08/23/08 03:52 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

god can we please use the search. this topic is been covered in detail in many threads.

and coincidentaly if you read threw the forums (as i dò) this has been answered several times in the ast week  directly and indirectly.

hour ban for new posts on potency?


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: libertaire]
    #8814181 - 08/23/08 03:52 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

if its ms inocc the potency varies between each mushroom


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: MarioTrip]
    #8814447 - 08/23/08 08:18 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Why are shrooms grown on cakes weaker than shrooms grown on hpoo?


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #8815423 - 08/23/08 01:57 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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god can we please use the search. this topic is been covered in detail in many threads.

and coincidentaly if you read threw the forums (as i dò) this has been answered several times in the ast week  directly and indirectly.

hour ban for new posts on potency?




Why does every thread have to have someone like you come in and defile it? I think you need a 1 hour ban.  Sorry for hijacking but I do see this type of behavior in every thread, and it does give the shroomery a bad rep.


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Re: What factors determine potency? [Re: ray40cal]
    #8815446 - 08/23/08 02:07 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Elitism ain't cool...

Someone should do a blind test of the same strain from the same clone grown using different methods to test the potency.  Although then you'd have to find two people with the same amount of experience as well as the same tolerance and body weight.  Shouldn't be too hard though.


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