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No effect from Amanitas
    #8812661 - 08/22/08 09:01 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Today, a friend and i consumed a soup made from 1 oz of amanita muscaria mushrooms purchased from the iamshaman shop and experienced no effect from it whatsoever. The soup was made yesterday by grinding the mushrooms to a powder and heating them in beef broth at 190 degrees C for 30 minutes. i then placed it in the refrigerator until this morning when i ate it. Any ideas as to why the mushrooms had no effect?


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8814688 - 08/23/08 10:20 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

anyone?


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8814716 - 08/23/08 10:35 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

You are supposed to drink your urine after taking them, because i guess the active ingredients come out in your piss after.... don't know how it works.... .
it is the reason jesus turned water into wine tho :wink:

all i know is urine isn't bacteria infested.... its actually very clean i guess....


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: RedRainDrop]
    #8814810 - 08/23/08 10:59 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

um, you're joking right?

The original context of people drinking active ingredient-infused urine came from ancient cultures where the poor couldn't afford to take part in the pagan festivities involving fly-agarics, and were forced to drink the urine of revelers.

Anything that comes out when you piss was a lot stronger -before- it came out.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: Beege]
    #8815052 - 08/23/08 12:22 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

so did i do anything wrong in my preparation?


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8815072 - 08/23/08 12:28 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

From what I understand, Amanitas does not always work for everybody.  It depends on where they were grown, when they were harvested, season, etc.  But yeah, I have read a ton of trip reports on here and erowid, and some people swear by them, others will tell you they are horrible and will do nothing.  Remember, Soma is NOT a recreational drug.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8815073 - 08/23/08 12:28 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Prep sounded good.

I wouldnt have let it sit overnight, but I dont know about the stability of the chems.

Sounds like bunk.

Find a new vendor, or go hunting.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: Shad0w]
    #8815391 - 08/23/08 01:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

i got some from iamshaman and all i got from them was sleep.  i took them on two different occassions.  passed out both times.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: Beege]
    #8817358 - 08/23/08 08:54 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Beege said:
um, you're joking right?

The original context of people drinking active ingredient-infused urine came from ancient cultures where the poor couldn't afford to take part in the pagan festivities involving fly-agarics, and were forced to drink the urine of revelers.

Anything that comes out when you piss was a lot stronger -before- it came out.




Muscimol passes unchanged through your urine--the trip you'd get by drinking someone's piss after they've taken Amanitas will be practically identical to their's with no appreciable loss in potency.

That being said, Amanitas are pretty tricky to dose.  I've always preferred BBB to iamshaman.com, but I don't see why the latter's mushrooms wouldn't work at all.  Some good tips for using them are to lie back in a comfortable place after ingestion and smoke copious amounts of ganja to enter a trance mode.  Drowsiness, sleep, and OBEs should follow if you've taken enough.

Also, if you're buying pre-dried Amanitas from an online vendor, they should have been already dried at the correct temperature to convert all the ibotenic acid over to muscimol.  No need to make a tea or heat at 190 degrees; just eat the dried shroom straight up.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: deCypher]
    #8831521 - 08/26/08 06:43 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Just thought i should let everyone know that i contacted the iamshaman shop about the low-potency mushrooms they sent me, and they agreed to send me a higher grade produce (which they seem to imply is more than aesthetic) for only the difference of the original purchase (it came out to 7$ instead of $21 for an ounce). I will let you know if the higher grade mushroom is more potent, because i was under the impression that they were unrelated.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8831656 - 08/26/08 07:18 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

if theres no effect yor not using em right and as i say proper use is them being given to you by a medcine man or you picked.


main things to note A. if your drinking your pee your probally a jack ass. B. if you taking a OZ and thinking thats the right dose your really far off. C. you should only be having 1 or 2 caps. D. seriously people need to stop spreading so much misinformation. E. Fresh is really the way to go


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: thedudenj]
    #8831699 - 08/26/08 07:30 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

1 to 2 caps of fresh stuff, maybe.  I know that I need at least an ounce of pre-dried Amanitas to get a substantial trip, though.

And don't knock pee-drinkers, man. :lol:  Some people like to conserve their muscimol.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: thedudenj]
    #8831706 - 08/26/08 07:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

thedudenj said:
if theres no effect yor not using em right




Quote:

thedudenj said:
seriously people need to stop spreading so much misinformation.




:rofl2:

The irony is totally lost on you, isn't it?  Amanita potency varies widely, especially among dried specimens.

I agree though that fresh is best.  But not everyone has that option.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8831840 - 08/26/08 08:02 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

actually even with dried ones when properly picked by a healer one - two caps should be more then enough. Maybe the potency has to do with the healers ability and is a reflection of it or something


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: thedudenj]
    #8929079 - 09/14/08 05:29 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, I tried the Grade A caps yesterday. I ate 13 grams, this time straight (no soup or anything), and once again I felt absolutely nothing. I don't get it, am I doing something wrong? Is a half ounce not enough?


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: thedudenj]
    #8929112 - 09/14/08 05:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
actually even with dried ones when properly picked by a healer one - two caps should be more then enough. Maybe the potency has to do with the healers ability and is a reflection of it or something




Are you implying that the concentration of alkaloids in a mushroom will change based on who picks it?


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8929114 - 09/14/08 05:39 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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mbrown3391 said:
Ok, I tried the Grade A caps yesterday. I ate 13 grams, this time straight (no soup or anything), and once again I felt absolutely nothing. I don't get it, am I doing something wrong? Is a half ounce not enough?




It's very possible that a half-ounce isn't enough. Concentrations of muscimol and ibotenic acid can vary widely based on a lot of factors.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8929197 - 09/14/08 05:59 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

i dont think i could stomach twice what i ate! a half ounce was hard enough. Can i get some oppinions: Is it worth it?


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8929220 - 09/14/08 06:02 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

It usually takes me at least an ounce of dried Amanitas to get a moderately heavy trip.  I'm not sure whether this is due to shoddy vendors, or simply due to my hard-headed brain chemistry.


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Re: No effect from Amanitas [Re: deCypher]
    #8929276 - 09/14/08 06:11 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Ok. im not gonna buy anymore, but if i find some this fall ill try it.


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