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man, just start up a quick convo with her, and then as your leaving, as you BEGIN to turn away from the counter saying something like: "well Ive gotta run", look at her and say "do u have email?". If she says yes, give her a piece of paper and TELL her to write it down (the email).
What gives him the right to tell her to write her e-mail down?
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Re: Getting girls [Re: JunkFood]
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JunkFood said:
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TuneInTurnOn said:
man, just start up a quick convo with her, and then as your leaving, as you BEGIN to turn away from the counter saying something like: "well Ive gotta run", look at her and say "do u have email?". If she says yes, give her a piece of paper and TELL her to write it down (the email).
What gives him the right to tell her to write her e-mail down?
It shows confidence, im not saying that he thrusts a pen in her direction and yells "WRITE IT DOWN WRITE IT DOWN", Its just a casual way of getting an email, and it is much better than asking "do you want to give it to me???? pretty please???". Whatever, it always works for me.
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Re: Getting girls [Re: dr_gonz]
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using email to get dates is weak
Yeah--strictly phone numbers
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Re: Getting girls [Re: JunkFood]
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JunkFood said:
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dr_gonz said:
using email to get dates is weak
Yeah: strictly phone numbers
Email works pretty damn well, and I tell the girl to write down her email AND her number, but the girls I date are usually very busy/not always available, I find email is much better than trying to get a hold of them on their cell/home phone.
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My first date worked at wawa. I asked her if she wanted to "go out sometime" and get something to eat etc. At first it was no-go, but a week later when I stopped in, she gave me her #.
I suck at women, but that worked.
What happened, in a week, that made her change her mind?
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Re: Getting girls [Re: JunkFood]
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He remembered who she was, also different blend of estrogen.
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You've got it, or you don't. If you're not the type who can talk to women easily, then just ask her if she takes money for sex. If she says no, leave, because, as she said, she doesn't take money for sex. Then wait to find either a woman who takes money for sex, or one who approaches you first. I, as they say, don't have it. So I date women who approach me first. Or I pay them for sex.
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Re: Getting girls [Re: NShroomT]
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The bible;
I wasn't a sexist before I understood women. There was a time when I was blissfully ignorant. I grew up watching Disney cartoons, I believed in romance and "true love conquers all" etc. I wanted to find a woman who could be my equal, my partner. I believed in finding that one true love and being committed to each other forever. You know, like in the marriage vows, "for better or for worse, through sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer" etc. And I believed that women basically wanted the same thing. Now I understand that this was only possible when society was structured to enforce it. Now that women are "liberated" (and thus at the mercy of their own emotions and baser instincts) this is mostly no longer possible in today's society. Victorian society, or many Arab societies, are examples of how society used to be structured to keep women as faithful as possible.
I'd like to point out that I am not a misogynist...I love women. But I AM a sexist, in the sense that I believe women are vastly different than men and, according to the standards that men hold for other men, women are inferior as well.
I must be a bitter loser, right? In fact, I enjoy more success with women than most of the men in this city. I have slept with over 200 women in my life. I am sleeping with 5 different women right now. They are all normal, healthy, well-adjusted, good-looking (8+ on the looks scale) professional women. (At least as normal and healthy and well-adjusted as women can be - most women have issues.) But that's not all. I can go out any night of the week and pick up a woman. I can pick her up in front of all her friends (with 80% efficiency for each approach.) Women will slip me their phone number when their boyfriend is in the bathroom. I can talk to women on the street or in the grocery store and within 30 minutes, I can usually have sex with them right there in my car or get them back to my place. If I have to settle for a phone number, and I meet her on another day, assuming she doesn't flake, I WILL her that next day.
Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi doesn't change in the slightest if she single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won't feel guilty when I her because now it's "my fault." Sometimes she hides it from me until after I've fucked her, then she admits it. I can't tell you how many times I've been laying next to some chick, all sweaty cause I just finished busting a nut all over her face or in her mouth or on her back, and suddenly her phone rings and she's on the phone with her man, giving him some bullshit story. This is with NO GUILT WHATSOEVER!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you ever laid eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a HAT. The one thing that most men value most - loyalty - is just not there with women. Women don't think in terms of honor, women don't say "word is bond;" women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, period. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (1) the way she feels and (2) learning more about her own inner self and having emotional realizations. That's why women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes, other random bullshit topics that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc.
I must be really good looking, right? NOPE. My looks are marginal; I'm maybe a 7. I don't work out (though I'm not fat or anything.) In fact I didn't have any success with women until I was in my early 20's. That's when I decided to go out a lot and start trying to get laid... I was willing to face rejection a thousand times a night, and do it over and over, trying everything, until I got it right. I had to completely set my ego aside. I didn't get laid at all for the first few months. Then every now and then. Then pretty often. Then downright consistently! I'm in my early 30's now and I am basically a sexual god. I wouldn't have even believed this were possible when I was in high school. The ONLY factor that determined whether a woman would cheat was my own skill level. When my skills were poor, women shit all over me. (Everyone knows how women think they have license to be rude bitches in social situations... in fact I understand and appreciate that behavior now.) But once my skills got good, I could just about anyone's wife or girlfriend. And many times I didn't know they had a man until after I fucked them.
Look, I'm not saying that men are perfect, or whatever. Far from it. I'm just saying, I've spent a lot of my time studying women and interacting with them, and I know how they are. In fact, sometimes I hate knowing it. Sometimes I wish I had taken the blue pill, and never went down the rabbit hole, because now there's really no going back. I didn't want to believe these things... but how could I ever get married now? How could I ever be the chump who pays for everything and blissfully goes through life not worrying about his woman because he trusts her? Look, would you leave your dog alone with a steak? You can't hate the dog for doing what's in its nature. You can't trust a dog, BUT you can trust a dog to BE a dog. Some men are disloyal... but I could *never* trust a woman to be loyal. Some men are bad presidents...but I could *never* vote for a woman to be president. I can rarely expect a woman to regard her own promises as more important and compelling to her than the emotions she feels in the moment. She will rationalize it to herself later.
Here's an interesting fact. Did you know that the median 22 year old woman has TWICE as much sex as the median 22 year old man? You might ask, how is that possible? If a woman's having sex, doesn't that mean a man is having sex at the same time? And thus, shouldn't men be having just as much sex as women? NO...because most men hardly get laid, or if they do, it's because they "got lucky." But a small group of men get laid ALL THE TIME, and LOTS AND LOTS of women! It's evolution at work. Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.) Women want the top man...so the top man fucks lots of women. That's right - the sexual revolution, feminism, etc has resulted in a return to harems. Women, at the mercy of their own emotions, are volunteering for the modern-day equivalent of harems. Lucky for me!! Heh.
You might say, "But...but...I'm so nice! I'm a nice guy!" Guess what? That's like a fat chick saying, "But I'm so smart!" As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!
I'm going to give some tips here for the poor sucker guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds / thousands of dollars on all those whores out there without getting any play. (You bitches know exactly what you're doing, and I'm on to your game!)
* Don't be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman's worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toes and take it in the if she thinks you don't view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won't find out.)
* Don't get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It's ok (and necessary) to occasionally put your foot down...just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.
* Don't let her manipulate you or control you in any way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It's just like dancing - women hate a man who can't lead.
* When first approaching a woman or a group, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them - like sex. (And they're right.) It's important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honestly don't believe you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.
* DON'T TRY TO IMPRESS HER IN ANY WAY. Don't show off. Don't talk about accomplishments or possessions. As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.
* Don't ignore her friends. A woman values her friend's opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends lots of attention and get everyone laughing. If one woman is feeling different than the others, she will drag them away. They will follow like a flock of pigeons. Society is the book of women. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Women are very different!)
* To get a woman attracted / emotionally vulnerable, give her lots of emotions and feelings. Don't just make her feel good. Make her feel good, and angry, and sad, and connected, and astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy. Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you...playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you are doing it right. If she gives you that "I can't believe you just said that" look, do NOT back down, do not say "Oh I'm just kidding" or anything like that.
* As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or if you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don't take it seriously by giving it some logical answer! That's right...women lose interest if you take them seriously!!! It's crazy but that's how they behave. Just blow it off or misinterpret what she's saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.
* She will start asking you lots of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddenly find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and also find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if you've kissed her!) Women are the worst flakes in the world! Don't make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things you have in common, etc. She needs to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I'm shy or insecure about something. I know it's fucked up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.
* Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Ask her questions that show her you are checking her out to see if she is up to snuff. Women don't like to feel like you are with them only because you can't do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards; you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.
* Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across the street to check out some art. The more locations the better.
* Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn't have to feel like it was "her fault." Make it YOUR fault. Make it "just happen." She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bullshit generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don't get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, emotional is better than horny.
* Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.
* BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULLSHIT. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bullshit or not... because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logical. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bullshit when you say it. If you look like you do, then chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bullshit, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you too (alpha male..whatever)... because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically 'impart' to the chick!
* One more thing...many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. Don't listen to them, THEY DON'T KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, and they WILL steer you wrong. They will tell you what they THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.
If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on lots of women. Ironically, women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to them and then dump them on their - because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. That's why you always hear women bitching about how men are assholes that only want to them and dump them - because those are the men that they gravitate to.
Women tend to wise up when they get towards their 30s, and they start looking for a nice wimpy beta male to settle down with and pay for all their shit. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat on him with an exciting fun guy like me. (But who wants to some old chick in her 30's? That's what beta males are for! Heh)
Hey, don't blame me - I didn't make things the way they are. I was just a guy who wanted to get laid. And I do
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Re: Getting girls [Re: Ego Death]
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This guy has read "The Game: Infiltrating the secret socity of pick-up artists" too many times.
He is a textbook lathario. Don't listen to him.
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I disagree, most of the stuff he said was right on the money and I agree with a lot of his insights into the female character. (notice I didnt say ALL of his insights). But for the most part, this is what you should do if you want to get laid/get lots of different women into relationships.
It works.
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Re: Getting girls [Re: NShroomT]
#6868794 - 05/03/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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All, she can say is no. What, do you have to lose ?
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All of it was regurgitated out of a book, "The Game" by Neil Strauss. It's shaped like a bible which is what I guess he's referencing as "the bible". Pick it up, it's an extremely interesting read. The end result of what happens to the main pickup artist is also very real and cautionary. They're making a movie out of it, so you'll probably catch it then.
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That would work I think, except substitute, "why don't you do something with me this Friday"
Most girls like a man with confidence, and who can be upfront.
Tell her what she's going to do (e.g., go out with you Friday)
No sweat, if she says no.
I think that's a little fast on a Friday night. Try a casual lunch first so that you can get to know her and then see if she wants to party.
Girls don't like men to be over confident about themselves.
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there are some serous david deangelo/neil straus fanatics sppon feeding advice on this thread 
listen man, Just walk up to her, and say "Hey listen, I though you were a cutie I just had to meet you, I'm blah blah" and give her a big smile  The thing is, you MUST MUST MUST walk up with confidence and have a strong energy and vibe to your aura. Don't look nervous or speak with a contrived like tone of voice or anything like that. Be natural with it and be strait up with her, she will appreciate you for expressing your intent to herright off the bat. If you approach her using this, and look strongly into her eyes and smile, chances are she will smile and tell you her name and you have to lead the interaction from there.
Also this one works wonders. When she tells you her name, Say "oh no, I once dated a (her name) before!" and kinda shake your head in dissaproval. This will get her giggling and say "she was trouble!"...THis is dissplaying push pull, and cocky and funny. Your demonstrating you don't care what she thinks of you and you live in your own reality. Make light converstation for only 2-5 minutes and let her know at the end "Hey I've gotta get going, but it was a pleasure to meet you(with a smile). She'll respond accordoingly assuming the interaction hs gone well. Then say "I'll tell you what, give me your number and maybe we'll hang out sometime " hand her your phone or however you want to get the number. If you want to amplify the attraction, say something like, this is your REAL number right? or somthing like that.
They key is to be a lil funny, get her smiling and laughing, push pull, be cool and totally comfortable and exude confidence from every fiber of your being. Look into her eyes when she speaks, and LOOK AT HER LIPS at least 25% of the time you look at her. She will feel the sexual intent bursting from you. Make sure not to think too much about walking up to her because it will make you stilted and what not. Just DO IT! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain, man.
The golden rule here is "WHATEVER YOU FEEL, SHE FEELS", repeat to yourself dozens of times...
The key to good phone game, when you get her number is running a solid interaction to begin with, remember this also.
if you follow this adivce it will be terribly hard to not get her number, even if she DOES have a bf!
Good luck!
oh just alil bit more motivation
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I love/hate reading my old posts.
The thing about other people's advice is that it works for them. It's their advice. But, to be yourself, you must follow your own advice. You must be yourself.
That's my updated advice. Do whatever you want. However you want. Whenever you want. You are the eyes of the world. You are the only one that sees through them, and you must navigate this world the way you see fit. Then, only you are responsible for your success and/or demise.
As for myself, I still look for advice occasionally, because I realize that elders tend to be better at navigating this world. Anywho, it's meaningless nothingness anyway. Enjoy!
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