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Chronic7
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Everything is funny?
#8809917 - 08/22/08 08:05 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Everything is hilariously funny, its only our individual restricted 'sense of humour' that decides whether we find it funny or not.
Maybe this seems cold hearted? Or maybe your sense of humour just needs opening up?
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Re: Everything is funny? *DELETED* [Re: Chronic7]
#8809936 - 08/22/08 08:13 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Platinum
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This thread is funny....
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Platinum]
#8810230 - 08/22/08 10:01 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Laughter is dissolution.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Chronic7]
#8810395 - 08/22/08 10:30 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is like saying all noise is good music... you just have to open up your sense of musical taste.
Don't open your mind too far or your brains will fall out.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: deCypher]
#8810405 - 08/22/08 10:32 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
The Cypher said: Don't open your mind too far or your brains will fall out.
It happens....
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oooops oh shit...
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Platinum]
#8810435 - 08/22/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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hysterical
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Lakefingers]
#8810442 - 08/22/08 10:40 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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i try
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Platinum]
#8810463 - 08/22/08 10:44 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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part of laughing in the immediate community here we get computer screens and some implication of some others
ha ha
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: deCypher]
#8810624 - 08/22/08 11:22 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Cypher said: This is like saying all noise is good music... you just have to open up your sense of musical taste.
Don't open your mind too far or your brains will fall out.
Yeah...I mean I've heard that scientifically, the more things someone finds amusing, the more connections they are making, but if someone were to laugh at everything, they wouldn't be able to operate...."Hello sir, how are you?" "hahahah!!!" "Ok...well it's pretty nice out isn't it?" "hahaha!" .... doesn't really seem workable to me....
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: fazdazzle]
#8810765 - 08/22/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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And strangely enough, disorganized schizophrenics in fact tend to exhibit this behavior: senseless laughter totally out of context for the situation. Maybe it's just that they see further into the pattern than anyone else.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: deCypher]
#8811018 - 08/22/08 12:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmm... that's interesting, do you have evidence of this? Or is this just something you've heard/witnessed?
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Platinum]
#8811039 - 08/22/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The emotional responses of people diagnosed with this subtype can often seem strange or inappropriate to the situation. Inappropriate facial responses may be common and behavior is sometimes described as 'silly', such as inappropriate laughter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorganized_schizophrenia
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Platinum]
#8811040 - 08/22/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The young cannibal to the older cannibal: "Gee mom, this clown tastes funny."
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Veritas]
#8811112 - 08/22/08 01:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Humor is supposed to be inappropriate, thats what makes it funny.
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Quote:
daytripper23 said: Humor is supposed to be inappropriate, thats what makes it funny.
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deCypher
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I fail to see how:
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Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side.
is inappropriate.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: deCypher]
#8811138 - 08/22/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Away with you and your slapstick humor! Get back to watching Animal House, you... you... plebeian.
Dry humor a la Monty Python and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is where it's at.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: deCypher]
#8811157 - 08/22/08 01:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Cypher said: I fail to see how:
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Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side.
is inappropriate.
Well that's just not funny... that's just obvious.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: deCypher]
#8811159 - 08/22/08 01:12 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Platinum]
#8811165 - 08/22/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Touché. But on a more serious note, I don't think you can boil down all jokes to mere inappropriateness. Say we take the extension to the chicken joke, for example:
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Why didn't the turkey cross the road? Because he wasn't chicken.
Can't deny that this one deserves a chuckle, but still nuthin' inappropriate about it.
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Quote:
daytripper23 said:
Ah, but they're British. Makes it more sophisticated 'n shit.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Chronic7]
#8811409 - 08/22/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Chronic777 said: Everything is hilariously funny, its only our individual restricted 'sense of humour' that decides whether we find it funny or not.
Maybe this seems cold hearted? Or maybe your sense of humour just needs opening up?
Nothing is everything. Most things can be seen as funny but there is more to life than humor for humans who have the potential for many emotional states.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Icelander]
#8811413 - 08/22/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icelander said:Most things can be seen as funny but there is more to life than humor for humans who have the potential for many emotional states.
WHY SO SERIOUS?
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Chronic7]
#8811803 - 08/22/08 03:32 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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In an interview Ram Dass once said that while working with AIDS patients, when they were dying, he found it hard to suppress the part of him that wanted to chuckle, or giggle, at the whole thing...So much suffering, so much fear, but beneath it all the whole process seemed perfect somehow, even funny. That's life....Hard to know when to laugh and when to cry. I think the Buddhist Middle Way is about learning to meet your own melodrama halfway. You don't take it too seriously, you don't kill yourself over it...You use it to learn compassion and empathy.
As for whether jokes have to be inappropriate. Here's a good measure. When you say a joke that's offensive to a specific group of people, think about whether you would say it if one of them was present. If you can't say a joke around another human being because of that person's skin color, religion, or sexual orientation, without feeling uncomfortable yourself, you probably shouldn't be telling it. I usually don't held myself to that standard but it seems a good one.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Veritas]
#8811834 - 08/22/08 03:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Veritas said:
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The emotional responses of people diagnosed with this subtype can often seem strange or inappropriate to the situation. Inappropriate facial responses may be common and behavior is sometimes described as 'silly', such as inappropriate laughter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorganized_schizophrenia
Wow that actually sounds just like me.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Lion]
#8812031 - 08/22/08 04:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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but beneath it all the whole process seemed perfect somehow, even funny.
It's amazing how we can use our mind to rationalize ourselves out of difficult emotional situations. The above statement seems contrived in an effort to deal with a lot of suffering and make it seem good. But IMO it just is.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Icelander]
#8812233 - 08/22/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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What do you call two gays on rollerblades?
Roll-aids.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Icelander]
#8812334 - 08/22/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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But like you said Ice, it just is - it just is funny. I think our emotions can go along for the ride in the case of humor, because the senselessness of true humor is exactly what you are describing. You are right, sometimes humor can be contrived, but in that case, is it really funny? Your not really laughing, your trying to laugh. So I would say contrived humor is not humor, or perhaps its bad humor. You lose yourself in good humor; it is just funny, and theres no need to analyze it...
The word humor is strange: as I am describing it, "funny and non-contrived" is in complete contradiction of the verbal form - "to humor" - which is to contrive or devise - "I humored his wishes." Anybody catching my wavelength here? Within and without...
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Your statement doesn't make sense. it just is funny.
Why is it just funny and not just sad or just tragic or anything else?
Funny is a choice. A choice among choices.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Icelander]
#8812402 - 08/22/08 05:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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But can we choose whether or not we find something humorous? I either find something funny or I don't--it's not like I can make a bad joke funny by simply changing my mind.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: deCypher]
#8812408 - 08/22/08 05:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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To a degree we can choose but only to a point.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Icelander]
#8812906 - 08/22/08 08:18 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just to clarify, I didn't mean that aesthetic qualities like humor or tragedy are real outside interpretation, but that they are spontaneous. We can't help what we think is beautiful, tragic, or funny. We can open or close ourselves to this, but it will not influence the qualities themselves. In my opinion this is very much like the reality you are speaking of - just is.
Substance just is, and Quality just is.
Mind and Matter.
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Re: Everything is funny? [Re: Platinum]
#8815106 - 08/23/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, I can find humor in just about everything. Somethings are just more funny than others.
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