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Hmmm tonght I found these,,
    #880871 - 09/12/02 05:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Well Here WE go againmy Indian friend found these in AZ. on some horse dung toght in pasture, I am researching now any helpis appreciated.








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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #880876 - 09/12/02 05:30 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

No prints taken yet
lenght is about 4.33 in
does not stin blue
stem is pinkish/white after picking
gils look regular
cap diameter aross is 2.09 on some / sme smaller
found several albinos with group
rhm is about 50% but these wer in a horse field after a good rain near phx,az


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #880885 - 09/12/02 05:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

y first gues was A gray brown funnel cap clitocybe metachroa,family Tricholomataceae


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #880921 - 09/12/02 06:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I really need a second opinion though?


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #881008 - 09/12/02 08:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Nice pictures. I think it's not a Clitocybe. They have decurrent gills and white spore print. I bet your mushroom has brown-black spore prints.

It must be Panaeolus...


Edited by zeronio (09/12/02 08:55 PM)


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: zeronio]
    #881045 - 09/12/02 09:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Thats what I thought. I wonder if its edble or has andy magnificant properties , should I obtain more and maybe start a culture from a clone or print? NOt sure about this species yet? What do you think


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #881050 - 09/12/02 09:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

the spores seem to be a red/brown color


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #881053 - 09/12/02 09:55 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If indeed it is Panaeolus could it be cyanenscens with this spore deposit


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #881359 - 09/13/02 03:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Here?s te prints



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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #881365 - 09/13/02 03:07 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

excuse me if i am wrong but that color spore print is nothing but trouble


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #881507 - 09/13/02 09:13 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hello,

THose mushrooms are most definately Not Panaeolus cyanescens.


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #881661 - 09/13/02 10:28 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks guys'again,I'll just feed tem to my neighbors dog, that I dont like.


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #881731 - 09/13/02 11:00 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Nice photos, spore print, and description.

The best match I've found is Bolbitius coprophilus, but the description doesn't match your specimens perfectly enough to make me very sure.

I'll be interested to see what the others come up with.


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: ToxicMan]
    #882423 - 09/13/02 05:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It seems way closer to a Pan sub than anything even the description fits perfect. I think 'm ging to eat 3 of them tonight. If it were deadly than it would be posted already. I looked at the blob family and it seems close also I wonder if it is a Panaeolina foenisecii,lt m know yur thoughts,


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #882537 - 09/13/02 06:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

o.k think I figured this one out but I ned a second oppinion, Frommy studies and findings it appers to be:

Family:Coprinaceae
Species: Psathyrella (Panaeolina foenisecii
commo Name: Lawn Mower?s Mushroom
Haymaker?s mushroom

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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #882554 - 09/13/02 06:22 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Nope, not P. foens. They have much fleshier caps, and they don't deteriorate like that. Note that it says spore print for foens is purple brown. You have a rusty brown/darker orange print... Definately not Panaeolus or Panaeolia.


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: Gumby]
    #882577 - 09/13/02 06:35 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The print that I have here is closer to brown/deep purple. Well see I fed 3 caps to my dog,


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: shroomsformike]
    #882967 - 09/13/02 09:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

why has nobody suggested a conocybe or galerena.
id say its either inedible or deadly toxic.
do not feed it to anything


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Re: Hmmm tonght I found these,, [Re: Mitchnast]
    #883437 - 09/14/02 06:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Conocybe was certainly one of the genera I looked at, but none of the species in my keys match. Galerina I rejected because the stem is almost always the same color as the cap, and they are not known for growing on dung. I also considered Cortinarius and Inocybe.

I settled on Bolbitius because the specimens resemble Coprinus and have rusty brown spore prints.

If I had the specimens in hand I would probably be using a microscope to make sure I got to the right genus.


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