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Crazy orange bruising Lepiota
    #8808179 - 08/21/08 11:18 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Habitat:
Black mulch in flower bed, Coastal plains of TX




Gills:
White,
staining bright (flourescent, safety) orange fading to light orange, then brown after bruising, not attached to stem.


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Stem:
5 inches long or so, about the diameter of a dime, enlarged at the base, staining dark where handled, scaly, light colored with darker scales where not handled. Ring on stem, attached to stem, possibly free with age as in other Lepiota species.




Cap:
Diameter 2 to 4", Tan and mottled with darker coloration, smooth, more spherical than conical, but having a bit of a cone shape in mature specimens.









Spore print color:
Assuming white, but haven't had time to take one.

Bruising:
BRIGHT FUCKING ORANGE, dark color on stem.

Other information:
Strong mushroomy smell with some other smell I can't really describe, more fragrant when gills are damaged.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8808217 - 08/21/08 11:23 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8808262 - 08/21/08 11:29 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

habitat doesn't match exactly. These were in a large group, under sego palm.

Also, I don't know that the stem bruised like the gills, and the cap flesh didn't bruise at all.

Also, the cap is smooth, not like the warty caps of most lepiotas. I don't know if it matches enough for that ID to be right.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8808274 - 08/21/08 11:31 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I caught all of that too when I read the description.  The season seems wrong as well.  But it was the only thing that came up immediately when I Googled Lepiota bruised orange, other than this thread of course.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8808315 - 08/21/08 11:36 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

wow... new species?

I could only dream...

Oh well, I like these. They're neat. I wish my pics did justice to the bruising. It really is a neat color.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8808356 - 08/21/08 11:42 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I think you have something special.  Make prints and save dried shrooms.  I always do that if I think I am onto something new.

I know whenever I find something special like that I am so freaked.  Nothing like finding something new.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8808684 - 08/22/08 12:56 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Those are cool :laugh:


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8808981 - 08/22/08 02:08 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Senor_Hongos said:
I think you have something special.  Make prints and save dried shrooms.  I always do that if I think I am onto something new.

I know whenever I find something special like that I am so freaked.  Nothing like finding something new.




If it is something new, don't forget to make deposits at a herbarium.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8809677 - 08/22/08 08:23 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I'll get some more today... there were plenty. I'll have to look into where to take them, but likely there is somewhere near the Museum of Natural Science that would have an herbarium.

I'm going to pursue this today as best I can. If anyone in Houston has free time today, I could use some help. Not easy to get away from work...


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8809705 - 08/22/08 08:40 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbup:

Good job, man.  We need more hunters like you.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8809816 - 08/22/08 09:29 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I take it the Sago came from a herbarium or was it imported from outside the US? Possibly, the mycelium hitched a ride; hence, it is not entirely unlikely this is some South American species that does not naturally occur in the US. I'm just hypothesizing a bit here.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8809925 - 08/22/08 10:09 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

absolutely possible, though I'm not sure on that one. We have alot of sego palm growers here, though it's not necessarily native. It could also have been in the mulch. I scraped the substrate with my foot... LOADED with mycellium.

We'll see what I find out.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8809960 - 08/22/08 10:20 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I pick leps out of wood chips all the time and the wood chips are covered in myc, its crazy you can dig down a foot anywhere on the pile and theres tons of myc.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: koraks]
    #8809981 - 08/22/08 10:26 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

koraks said:
I take it the Sago came from a herbarium or was it imported from outside the US? Possibly, the mycelium hitched a ride; hence, it is not entirely unlikely this is some South American species that does not naturally occur in the US. I'm just hypothesizing a bit here.




:sherlock: of the year award.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8811731 - 08/22/08 05:04 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Where's Alan? Where's Curecat?

DAMMIT I can't get any help with this one. I've tried to find someone who can look at these in person and give me an ID, but no luck. Can't find any contact info for any herbariums in Houston.

ARGH

I'm gonna start my own. Everyone bring your mushrooms to my house and I'll keep them in IKEA storage bins.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8811836 - 08/22/08 05:43 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

:laugh:


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8813354 - 08/23/08 12:00 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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PinheadX said:


DAMMIT I can't get any help with this one. 




Pardon me?  :lol:

I have some papers I can look at tomorrow and see if I can get an answer for you, but I doubt it.  It is entirely likely this one may remain unsolved.  Perhaps it is even unidentified as yet.  Is the pileipellis hymeniform?


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8813494 - 08/23/08 12:32 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

LOL

Sorry, I didn't mean from the shroomery. I meant from the professional scientific community in my area.

and from dorkgirl and spazmo... :smile:

no, I just tried looking for help from 3 universities and two herbariums, and couldn't get contact info for any university herbarium, or one of the private herbariums. The other didn't preserve samples at all. I was frustrated because I'm running out of time for someone to look at fresh healthy specimens.

I always appreciate your help, and the help of others on this forum. Thanks, guys.


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: PinheadX]
    #8813506 - 08/23/08 12:36 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

sorry, don't have a microscope. Or a magnifying glass. I have macro on my camera... but that's not quite capable.

I want one of those electronic USB microscopes that actually work worth a damn. I also want to eat. Gotta choose with mah belly. That's why I hunt.


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If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick


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Re: Crazy orange bruising Lepiota [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #8814222 - 08/23/08 04:08 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Senor_Hongos said:
Quote:

koraks said:
I take it the Sago came from a herbarium or was it imported from outside the US? Possibly, the mycelium hitched a ride; hence, it is not entirely unlikely this is some South American species that does not naturally occur in the US. I'm just hypothesizing a bit here.




:sherlock: of the year award.



Where can I collect it? It'll look good on my funky hypotheses recognition wall.


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