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Mary J in school
    #8806495 - 08/21/08 04:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So tomorrow in my Sociology class we will be debating the reason why bud and other drugs should be legalized or remain the same.

anyone have any good stats, facts, or sites to help out?


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Adaptation to a sick society is no measure of mental health. [/quote]


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Feeling_of_Sound]
    #8806506 - 08/21/08 04:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you better pwn a weed debate.  i always did.  we had like 4 of them somehow in my high school career too lol


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: zSDMF]
    #8806526 - 08/21/08 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

more then half my class are stoners haha. I'm sure we'll win as long as one of them doesnt say anything stupid. im planning on pulling the "weed hasnt killed a single person in the 1600 years of its use" line at some point.


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Adaptation to a sick society is no measure of mental health. [/quote]


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Feeling_of_Sound]
    #8806527 - 08/21/08 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Feeling_of_Sound]
    #8806532 - 08/21/08 04:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Feeling_of_Sound said:
more then half my class are stoners haha. I'm sure we'll win as long as one of them doesnt say anything stupid. im planning on pulling the "weed hasnt killed a single person in the 1600 years of its use" line at some point.




1600???
MUUCH more than that.
I think Chinese literature describes its medicinal value as far back as 6000 BC. Something like that.


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Feeling_of_Sound]
    #8806536 - 08/21/08 04:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's easier to debate that hard drugs should be legal, since the benefits of legaliztion is so much greater for them (see Legalize Methamphetamine).  But if you can track down Pharmacotheon, Ott, spends the first 80 pages of the book laying out the most comprehensive and clear legalization argument I can recall reading.


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Newbie]
    #8806539 - 08/21/08 04:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

damn i KNEW that year was wrong but read that on a quote on this site two days ago. d'oh!


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[quote] underfliptown said:
Adaptation to a sick society is no measure of mental health. [/quote]


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #8806543 - 08/21/08 04:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8806545 - 08/21/08 04:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Entropymancer said: Legalize Methamphetamine.





already legal, just need a prescription


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8806552 - 08/21/08 04:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Needing a prescription != legal

When I say legalize, I mean un-schedule.


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8806601 - 08/21/08 04:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i feel that Mary J should be legal but as for mushrooms like in other forums b4 iv said and ppl have said there are alot of irresponsible people in the world so they should stay as they are we dont want weak minded ppl doing shrooms they could hurt themselves or others thats just how i feel about it but whatever:tongue:


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: thatsstupid]
    #8806622 - 08/21/08 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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thatsstupid said:
i feel that Mary J should be legal but as for mushrooms like in other forums b4 iv said and ppl have said there are alot of irresponsible people in the world so they should stay as they are we dont want weak minded ppl doing shrooms they could hurt themselves or others thats just how i feel about it but whatever:tongue:




Just because something is legal doesn't mean everyone is going to use it.  I don't drink and I'm sure most people wont use mushrooms if they were made legal.


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Feeling_of_Sound]
    #8806638 - 08/21/08 04:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Uh, I'd say something like:

education is more important than prohibition, if people were properly educated there would be less drug addicts as they could use their drugs within the confines of accepted society instead of being looked at as outcasts,

many people only begin to use drugs because they are illegal and it helps to give them the image they are looking for

the human body isn't a government regulated piece of property in which they can tell you what or what not you can consume

plus it is unconstitutional as it denies people freedom of religion, and who is the government to classify my religion? if i find a drug enlightening or spiritual then i should be able to use it for religious purposes


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #8806642 - 08/21/08 04:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ya but you know that i know that it would cause more problems its just an opinion id like to know yours plz lol :grin:


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8806652 - 08/21/08 04:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Entropymancer said:
Needing a prescription != legal

When I say legalize, I mean un-schedule.




I likes that.:thumbup:


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8806655 - 08/21/08 04:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Entropymancer said:
Needing a prescription != legal




yes, if your name is on the bottle they dont take you to jail

Quote:

When I say legalize, I mean un-schedule.




decriminalize means you dont have penalties for possession even without a scrip


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: thatsstupid]
    #8806658 - 08/21/08 04:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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thatsstupid said:
ya but you know that i know that it would cause more problems its just an opinion id like to know yours plz lol :grin:




My opinion is that if you think mushrooms should be illegal, you have a serious lack of respect for the idea of personal responsibility in victimless crimes.


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8806671 - 08/21/08 04:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

just pull out a joint.
smoke it.

many will be surprised when you didn't die, but it should prove your point.


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8806675 - 08/21/08 04:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

When I say legalize, I mean un-schedule.




decriminalize means you dont have penalties for possession even without a scrip




To be clear:  I believe all drugs should be legally available for purchase/possession by anyone who is of the age of consent.  This eliminates not only the problems of throwing otherwise non-criminals in jail, but also addresses many serious issues that arise from a government-mandated black market.

Generally when people say decriminalize, they mean decriminalize possession, but not supply.  That only solves a fraction of the problem.


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Re: Mary J in school [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8806680 - 08/21/08 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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My opinion is that if you think mushrooms should be illegal, you have a serious lack of respect for the idea of personal responsibility in victimless crimes.




Co-sign.


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