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InvisibleOrgoneConclusion
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Why ask why?
    #8801050 - 08/20/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Most of the really big questions will never be answered. There is nothing to get a hold of, investigate or research. Thus no progress is made no matter how many minds contemplate nor how much time has passed.

What then is the point?


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8801064 - 08/20/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Ah, but some of us don't think that the big questions will never be answered.

We are continuously moving forwared in awareness, knowledge, science...
We cannot know for sure is there really an answer to everything, but i'll give it my best shot to understand, and if i fail... well, i lost nothing, and i enjoyed it. :mushroom2:

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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8801078 - 08/20/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

points are too cheap and small for anything of value


ask instead: should thinking be guided and framed by points?

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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8801099 - 08/20/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Most of the really big questions will never be answered. There is nothing to get a hold of, investigate or research. Thus no progress is made no matter how many minds contemplate nor how much time has passed.

What then is the point?



i think that these are not the real really big questions
these are the malformed trick questions
and the obnoxious supersized marketing questions
we only ask them as part of cultural malaise, and coercion


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8801112 - 08/20/08 01:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I think practice is as good a point as any. The big questions may never be answered, but every day we are bombarded with a multitude of smaller problems which require solid argumentative form to properly solve.
Mental gymnastics are fun, too. :cheer:

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Re: Why ask why? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #8801113 - 08/20/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

in other words, things that are thought-provoking are not deep

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Re: Why ask why? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #8801119 - 08/20/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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redgreenvines said: we only ask them as part of cultural malaise, and coercion




Who coerces us to inquire into the nature of reality?


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8801120 - 08/20/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Most of the really big questions will never be answered. There is nothing to get a hold of, investigate or research. Thus no progress is made no matter how many minds contemplate nor how much time has passed.

What then is the point?




You really don't know what you're talking about, do you? :monopoly:


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: deCypher]
    #8801142 - 08/20/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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The Cypher said:
Who coerces us to inquire into the nature of reality?




positive reinforcement, science museums, big questions-chat, pop-science magazines, language itself...

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Re: Why ask why? [Re: Lakefingers]
    #8801160 - 08/20/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

That seems hardly a coercion--more like an opportunity for the willing.


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: deCypher]
    #8801164 - 08/20/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i suppose you believe thought is free and you think on your own?

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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8801173 - 08/20/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I used to ask why all the time, why this life, why this world, why this universe...whats it all about...until i was pulling my hair out.

Then i realized i was asking the wrong question, the question to really discover is Who?

I totally agree when you say "There is nothing to get a hold of, investigate or research" as thats totally true in my book, but inner progress/growth can surely be made through investigation, even if you find nothing the investigation can be very fruitfull, maybe not in a materialistic sense but in an emotional sense of inner happyness. The investigation im talking about is insight/inquiry.

The mind will obviously say "what in it for me?" mind wants some objective payoff as evidence of 'benefit', thats what its taught, attainment. But the real benefit you cant ever take hold of. What is happyness/bliss? Can anyone hold onto it? Never, but you can discover you are that! That is the payoff of investigation, but if you want a solid objective type payoff then your right you got nothing to show for your investigation.

:peace:


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: Chronic7]
    #8801184 - 08/20/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

asking creates a path, which is life

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Re: Why ask why? [Re: Lakefingers]
    #8801238 - 08/20/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

the dumb questions that are unanswerable are the questions that church and state provide you.
the good questions about the nature of reality are not part of social malaise and coercion.

you should ask
the OP has his own trick to deliver.


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: Lakefingers]
    #8801645 - 08/20/08 04:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Lakefingers said:
i suppose you believe thought is free and you think on your own?




Thought is free.  The things we think about are usually provided to us by others, however.


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8801662 - 08/20/08 04:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Most of the really big questions will never be answered. There is nothing to get a hold of, investigate or research. Thus no progress is made no matter how many minds contemplate nor how much time has passed.

What then is the point?




To entertain and distract oneself.


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8801920 - 08/20/08 05:14 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Why ask why?




A) Why not....?
B) Because we can....

Either or, really....    :ohwell:


>^;;^<


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8802391 - 08/20/08 07:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: Why ask why? [Re: adrug]
    #8803885 - 08/21/08 12:57 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

because why can lead to truth :thumbup:

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Re: Why ask why? [Re: blkjkrabbit]
    #8803895 - 08/21/08 01:00 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

...and the truth shall set you free.


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